This was an Alan Moore comic, right?

[Addendum]

Even though he has no intention of making movies and doesn't think that a movie version of a book somehow "validates" that book

 

[Honey Vibe]

It's pretentious because he act's like they did some horrible disservice to his story, but the underlying message and story is still there.

It seems Moore is not primarily revolted by a less-than-perfect translation of his idea. It is, rather, the amoral intention of corporations to turn his ideas into a franchise, and dupe him into being their promotional mascot in the process.

Somewhat unrelated, it's the same reason Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson had a falling out, with Jackson selling out songs of the Beatles to Pepsi, Reebok, and whomever -- songs McCartney felt were about revolution, not about "buy Pepsi".

 

[Ash Loomis]

Even though he has no intention of making movies and doesn't think that a movie version of a book somehow "validates" that book

I know this, and I don't care that Moore doesn't make movies. I just don't think that he should complain about them when he was given a chance to help make it. Come to think of it, if Moore isn't interested in the movies, why does he bother to comment on how they deviated from his storyline? That act is showing some interest.

Also, I never said that making a film version of a book validates it and I never said that Moore did have an intension of making movies based on his books, so I fail to see what those two points have to do with my opinion of Moore's complaints.

What I'm saying is "Moore if you're not interested in making movies, that's fine; go write some more of your wonderful comics. But if you don't care about these films and you didn't want to help out with them, then why are you complaining about them?"

 

[Addendum]

Since when do people need a reason to complain about anything?

 

[Ash Loomis]

Since when do people need a reason to complain about anything?

Uh...is that meant to be a joke or something?

 

[Addendum]

It's meant to be a question, hence the inclusion of the question mark at the end.

 

[Ash Loomis]

Well, I've always considered the action of complaining to be motiviated by wanting something to change, so you're protesting it. Complaining goes back to before we recorded history, man. When you complain about something, have no motivation and you don't care either way, then it's not complaining, it's being (to put it nicely) silly.

 

[Addendum]

Just don't tell politicians that...

 

[Chris Wallace]

I bought the book the other day & so far, I don't see what Alan's complaining about. I've just read where he kills the bishop & for the most part, the only changes I see are cosmetic. So Evey's not a teenage prostitute. So what? I'll have a more informed view when I finish but so far I don't see what the fuss is about.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Having now finished the book, I like the movie version better overall.

 

[SuperFerret]

Having now finished the book, I like the movie version better overall.

I did too. In the book V didn't really accomplish anything, he just caused anarchy which would eventually evolve into some type of order. In the movie, he united the people of England, which IMO is a much better solution than causing chaos and death for no reason.

 

[Chris Wallace]

That's it. It felt more...complete. His plan seemd more thought out. He had a goal & he accomplished it. There were individual parts of the book that I wish had been in the movie, but I'm happy w/what I saw onscreen. A buddy of mine who's a fan of the book argues that the film "missed the point".

 

[SuperFerret]

That's it. It felt more...complete. His plan seemd more thought out. He had a goal & he accomplished it. There were individual parts of the book that I wish had been in the movie, but I'm happy w/what I saw onscreen. A buddy of mine who's a fan of the book argues that the film "missed the point".

Same here, but then again my friend nitpicks over every comic book movie.

 

[Chris Wallace]

There will always be those; or else these forums wouldn't exist.

 

[Superhobo]

To each his own, I guess. Masel, I think the GN surpasses the movie in so many ways it's not even funny. Though, I do love the movie. The GN is just so much better.

And you all know my opinion on the novelization.

 

[Psiborg]

You guys are missing out on his whole message of anarchy in the comic. He doesn't want anarchy that results in chaos in death. That is the Land of Take-What-You-Want, which he does not want. But it is a step to his goal. His goal is the Land of Do-As-You-Please in which a society has anarchy because they want it. It's about people working together to support and help each other and make everyone happy.

And I think the movie was a terrible film and I wish I never paid money for it. It was a piece of trash if you ask me and the changes were far from cosmetic. Take just your example of Evey. I don't think many people care that much about the prostitute thing. It's more about the fact she previously had no thoughts of rebellion or reason to be against the government, but V manipulated a young, impressionable girl to do his bidding. There's one point already that makes the comic much deeper than the movie. Then consider what this says about Codename V's character- is he a villain or a hero? Again, another aspect that makes the comic much more thought provoking. I could go on and on....

And to respond to a question closer related to the original question:

What I'm saying is "Moore if you're not interested in making movies, that's fine; go write some more of your wonderful comics. But if you don't care about these films and you didn't want to help out with them, then why are you complaining about them?"

He doesn't want to help them because he doesn't want them made in the first place. I may be wrong, but I don't think he ever said he doesn't care. He just doesn't want a piece of crap out there parading under his name. He makes comics that don't work as films. He feels there's too much thought put into each and every panel, by himself and whoever the artist may be, to function as a film. He said something to the effect of "in a comic, you can go back and re-read panels and check back if something recurs; you can read at your own pace. You cannot do this with a film". If he doesn't want a film to be made and people insist on producing a film he finds to be garbage, he has every right to complain. He shouldn't be forced to help just to make a mediocre film; just because he helps doesn't mean he would be allowed to do whatever he wants and he would likely be unhappy with that. And, once again, the bottom line is- he doesn't want a film to be made.