Age of Ultron Thor should be more powerful!!

[The Endless]

And manipulate weather and give him the ability to fly.

 

[jaqua99]

We'll agree to disagree to a certain degree.

While I am half way with you with the carrier fight between Thor and Hulk (it was a great scene for both characters) I don't feel that Thor dominated that fight in the least, and again, to me, he comes off as obviously stronger than say Iron Man's suit, but not at Hulk level strength or durability. And he should be. As great as it was seeing him call Mjolnir to him and uppercut Hulk with it, again, that could easily be seen to reinforce the idea that he's dependent on the hammer. Had he, say, flipped or thrown Hulk off his feet, slammed him into the floor while holding onto a limb or the like, it would get the message across very well about his strength in comparison to ole Jade Jaws. As for Kurse... I don't want to start a TDW debate. I will just say... Yeah, nothing about that character in TDW impressed me in the least, and to me he sure as hell didn't come off like anything approaching Ang Lee/Incredible/A1 Hulk strength in the the least. Let's be honest, comic Thor is just as capable of smashing that incoming Leviathan with his bare fists as movie or comic book Hulk. I just would like to see something approaching that in the films in a definitive way.

Fair enough. However, you gotta look at feats, Hulk couldn't stop Mjlonir's trajectory. Kurse swatted the hammer away like it was made of foam. Thor's blows registered with Hulk, his blows with Kurse were nothing more than mild inconveniences.

Him dominating Thor in ways Hulk couldn't was more than enough for me.

Thor's yet to be really hurt in the movies, aside from his fight with Kurse.
Idk man

 

[BoredGuy]

I just wished Thor got even more of an ass-beating in that Kurse fight
He should've been bloody and on the verge of death, barely able to move
then Loki saves him(which shouldve taken a bit more work as well), "dies", and Thor has to struggle to slowly pull himself over to his brother's side to say thank you and goodbye

would've shown just how tough Kurse was, would've added some serious fear and tension, and it would've made Loki's sacrifice that much more touching

 

[The Endless]

That would have just led to Loki overshadowing Thor even more i think.

The Kurse fight was just unimaginative and made Thor look like an idiot. It's like he forgot he could fly, manipulate the weather. He also didn't show his super speed (he hasn't blitzed anyone, but he casually deflected the Chitauri blasts in Avengers so he's at least a bullet timer).

There just doesn't seem to be a consistent portrayal of his powers or skills yet. Unlike Stark and Cap it seems Marvel don't really know what to do with Thor. And that's really disappointing because i think the character has more potential for wildly imaginative stuff.

 

[BoredGuy]

Yeah that's the thing, they just need to have some faith in the character
Same with Supes or any high power level characters, as opposed to nerfin' the characters and/or making them inconsistent, they should just go for it. Show the powers off. You just need the villain to be equally as badass, which Kurse should've been. There's no need to make Thor only punch people when he has a Hulk-Squashing villain to fight. He could've unleashed all his power and still only mildly phased Kurse. Then, when he's fighting lower level villains in Avengers or wherever, he should be overwhelmed by numbers, or you have that schemer-type villain who would come up with a contingency to take Thor out.

I just think that inconsistency and "grounding" with these types of characters shows a lack of faith in the character more than anything. The comics have managed to generate years of great stories without "grounding" everything, and now that CG lets you do all the **** from a comic, then why not?

 

[jaqua99]

That would have just led to Loki overshadowing Thor even more i think.

The Kurse fight was just unimaginative and made Thor look like an idiot. It's like he forgot he could fly, manipulate the weather. He also didn't show his super speed (he hasn't blitzed anyone, but he casually deflected the Chitauri blasts in Avengers so he's at least a bullet timer).

There just doesn't seem to be a consistent portrayal of his powers or skills yet. Unlike Stark and Cap it seems Marvel don't really know what to do with Thor. And that's really disappointing because i think the character has more potential for wildly imaginative stuff.

Now I agree with making thor look like an idiot with a hammer and lightning.

I feel awkward watching his fights. There's nothing godly about his fighting yet.

 

[Nokio]

I've always said that Thor seemed underpowered. As far as the Hammer goes it's pretty spot on and how it should be, but Thor should be really strong. Like Superman leverl strong. The Hulk is right. Thor is supposed to be able to take on Superman easily and win depend on how he fights but no way can movie Thor beat Cavil's Superman.

 

[TheVision]

I dont like Superman because hes too strong. Thor is fine just the way he is. Make him like Supes and it just ruins it imo. It should be about using their super powers in cool ways, not just being impervious to everything and unstoppable.

 

[The Endless]

Thor's comics have done alright and he's shown to be just as strong and durable as Supes.

Nerfing characters just shows a lack of imagination and creativity.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

He's the GOD OF THUNDER. He should be consistent in his godly power. But in the MCU they bounce all over the place with his powers and power levels, and it's led to many a discussion I've had with friends and family who aren't fanboy types who keep wondering why he was able to fight the Hulk. "But he didn't have the Hammer, right? Isn't he only powerful when he has the hammer?" He's too ambiguous to many in the audience when it comes to his strength and power. Frankly, that's a big reason Kurse didn't come off all that menacing to me. If Thor's physical power had been closer to the comic's presentation from the giddy up, then him getting mauled by Kurse would have more impact. If they had done that I'd be all for more showing of Mjolnir's more exotic abilities as well. Things like energy absorbing, energy tracking, ect.

 

[The Endless]

Well said KRYPTON. It's all about consistency. His best feats were in the first Thor film. I mean, he one shotted The friggin Destroyer and destroyed a land mass that is the size of a city.

The only thing close to that was in Avengers when he used the Chrysler Building as a giant super conductor... thing.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I just wished Thor got even more of an ass-beating in that Kurse fight
He should've been bloody and on the verge of death, barely able to move
then Loki saves him(which shouldve taken a bit more work as well), "dies", and Thor has to struggle to slowly pull himself over to his brother's side to say thank you and goodbye

would've shown just how tough Kurse was, would've added some serious fear and tension, and it would've made Loki's sacrifice that much more touching

That fight was really disappointing in the end, it was over too quickly and Thor should have had at least somewhat of a comeback moment, only to be overwhelmed again.

 

[TeeKay]

To be fair when Thor struck Malekith with his hammer we see a shockwave that level the ground beneath their feet and shatters the glass in the adjacent buildings. Then after Malekith sends Thor flying we see him pull a bullrush that impacts Malekith with enough speed to drag the cars with them into the portal. That was pretty cool. I hope we see more of that.

 

[ctsketch]

and how far Malekith flew that very first hammer throw followed by the ground pound lightning attack

 

[warriorking]

And Keep in mind in TDW he was originally set to call down and combine the lightning from all the aligned worlds and bring it to bare against Malekith..
Instead we get a rewrite with the Keystone cop Darcy show..And don't get me started on the runtime....
Marvel needs to step it up with Thor.
But I think they will once again diminish Thor's power level to make the Hulk shine....
Hope I am wrong....

 

[The Endless]

Yea that could have been really cool, showing him summon lightning from all the realms then combine it.

I was thinking, maybe in Thor 3 with Odin perhaps dead Thor gets the Odin-Force (well, Thor-Force) when he becomes King of Asgard.

 

[ctsketch]

We haven't even seen a power display from Odin though....he's just an elderly Asgardian

 

[terry78]

I think the confusion stemmed even in Avengers, when he heard Hulk coming and there was like tension when he was waiting for Mjolnir to return to him. I was like, "****er, you can just punch him!"

 

[ctsketch]

Well he did tackle, kick and punch Hulk first but he was physically outmatched...which he should be

 

[TeeKay]

If they really want to show off Thor's feats, they need a formidable foe. It was such a missed opprtunity with Kurse. Granted it was cool seeing Thor fight without his hammer (people complained that he relies on it too much) but the fight was one -sided. The best way they can fix this is to show that Thor is much more without his hammer. I'm sure if Sutur comes into play, we could really see what Thor is capable of.

 

[TheVision]

Nothing Thor can do will be able to stop ULTRON. He cant electrocute him or punch him if hes made of Vibranium. Itll be like a replay of what he got from Iron Man except he'll really get his Assgard beat not just a fly around punchup and some headbutts etc. If youre expecting him to win that fight, youll be dissapointed.

 

[Smashlilman]

Nothing Thor can do will be able to stop ULTRON. He cant electrocute him or punch him if hes made of Vibranium. Itll be like a replay of what he got from Iron Man except he'll really get his Assgard beat not just a fly around punchup and some headbutts etc. If youre expecting him to win that fight, youll be dissapointed.

The thing is that Ultron punching Thor is like Thor Punching Ultron. Ultron wouldn't kick thor's ass. It would sort of come off as a stale mate in which Thor's body takes minor damge from Ultron strongest attack but Ultron takes no dmage from Thor's attacks.

It's like Superman vs Zod. Their attacks where hurting each other but their bodies weren't taking a lot of visible physical damage.

 

[terry78]

By all rights any man made thing Thor should be able to kick the ass off, but writers find a way.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I'm not asking for Thor to one shot Ultron. But, having him as a key power player on the front lines, trading blows with Ultron would be nice.

 

[Tony Stark]

I think they need to step up the powers ala what they did with Cap in TWS. I do not want to see Thor look like Superman in MoS, which I thought the effects looked silly and video game like.

Showing Thor's flying ability tied to swinging Mjolnir is great, and an homage to how Lee/Kirby wrote the character. He should not fly like he does as Ultimate Thor.

Don't make Thor strong by making Ultron Weak. In Avengers EMH, Ultron was about to kill Thor, but Enchantress transported him before he was killed.

Ultron can absolutely destroy Thor, as he can any of the Avengers, because he can think faster and knows all of their vulnerabilities.