Tilda Swinton Cast as The Ancient One

[Sebastos]

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Daniel Day Lewis is Dormammu. As for Tilda, I'm so happy that there is so much optimism with this project.

This needs to happen now. Brilliant.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

F*** yeah!

 

[Taarna]

This needs to happen now. Brilliant.

WOW. Daniel Day Lewis as Dormammu? Just wow. I doubt Lewis would take the role as he's very picky and would not play a role that offers limited screen time and heavy make up....I think.

 

[Silvermoth]

I wonder who they'll get to play Wong? Charlie sheen?

No I'm happy for tilda. She sounds excited and she is going to be incredible next to benedict. I hope there are other Asian roles in the marvel u though as well as doctor strange. Clea maybe? Or iron fist if we're going for the wider marvel u

 

[metaphysician]

WOW. Daniel Day Lewis as Dormammu? Just wow. I doubt Lewis would take the role as he's very picky and would not play a role that offers limited screen time and heavy make up....I think.

Also, how could he prep for the role? Its not like he can spend six months ruling over a dark dimension as its infernal lord, to get into the mind of the character.

t:

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

Also, how could he prep for the role? Its not like he can spend six months ruling over a dark dimension as its infernal lord, to get into the mind of the character.

t:

he played a US president once. prep already done

 

[Silvermoth]

Haha oooo that's cheeky!

 

[marcvader]

Couldn't be happier with this casting, bravo. Make Mines Marvel

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I love this so much.

 

[LaughingMage]

Aaaaand I suddenly lost all interest in this movie. Thanks Marvel, but no thanks. A non-asian TAO? Nah, that's a deal breaker for me.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Ok, see ya.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

Aaaaand I suddenly lost all interest in this movie. Thanks Marvel, but no thanks. A non-asian TAO? Nah, that's a deal breaker for me.

Don't worry. I habe interest enough for an army of people who can't see the brillance of Swinton.

 

[Loki882]

Given some of her recent comments, I'm curious as to what gender she'll play TAO as? Tilda has been interested in the androgynous lifestyle for a long time and has played those kinds of characters before. Personally, I'd kind of like to see TAO as a "spiritual" being who has no set gender. TAO is "beyond" such things and all that.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Puts me in mind of her character in Constantine a little.

 

[LaughingMage]

Don't worry. I habe interest enough for an army of people who can't see the brillance of Swinton.

Oh the Swinton is brilliant of course, no doubt about that. It's just not the direction I want out of a Doc Strange Movie. I prefer my Doc Strange to be heavily steeped in eastern mysticism and asian forms of "magic". I like my Strange to be a bonafide Kung Fu Wizard and not some kinda contemporary wannabe Merlin. I can watch Harry Potter for that kind of magic.

 

[Zant]

Oh the Swinton is brilliant of course, no doubt about that. It's just not the direction I want out of a Doc Strange Movie. I prefer my Doc Strange to be heavily steeped in eastern mysticism and asian forms of "magic". I like my Strange to be a bonafide Kung Fu Wizard and not some kinda contemporary wannabe Merlin. I can watch Harry Potter for that kind of magic.

As long as they don't go all Sorcerer's Apprentice on us the movie should be fine.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

It's a bit early in the game to be dismissing the film based on the kind of magic it may or may not feature. We haven't even seen any concept art or read a plot synopsis yet.

Also how exactly does Tilda prevent Eastern-flavored sorcery? We already know she's but the latest in a line of Ancient Ones. I doubt the previous ones were all Asian.

 

[metaphysician]

Also, Dr Strange really only has the scantest base in eastern mysticism. 90% of his career, he basically *is* Merlin.

 

[LaughingMage]

Also how exactly does Tilda prevent Eastern-flavored sorcery? We already know she's but the latest in a line of Ancient Ones. I doubt the previous ones were all Asian.

By the mere fact that she ain't asian. I don't buy an ancient, white anglo european Master of Asian Mysticism. That's too much white washing for my taste. I do however buy an anglo european disciple of one And yeah, there were other sorcerers supreme but they had their own cultural flavor of magic. It is however essential to the character of Strange that his background is asian mysticism. You can't just switch his kind of magic to something else without loosing a huge chunk of what makes Strange well, Strange. It's like turning Brother Voodoo into a Mohican Shaman.

 

[LaughingMage]

Also, Dr Strange really only has the scantest base in eastern mysticism. 90% of his career, he basically *is* Merlin.

And that's exactly why his books have been struggling so much. No one seems to know how to make him distinct from all the other magic wielders.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

It's like turning Brother Voodoo into a Mohican Shaman.

No, sorry. It isn't anything like that at all. Have you ever actually read a Dr. Strange comic?

 

[SyntaxError]

And that's exactly why his books have been struggling so much. No one seems to know how to make him distinct from all the other magic wielders.

Watch Iron Fist if you want the eastern/oriental type of magic.

Doctor Strange is based much less on Asian Mysticism that you are making it out to be. I'm guessing you haven't read a Doctor Strange comic in your life. You don't seem to get the character.

 

[BarryAllen]

One might think those two facts, unfortunate though they might be, perhaps have something to do with one another. . .

It really doesn't have anything to do with each other. Marvel has plenty of black characters who aren't defined by the race, and plenty of white characters who aren't defined by their faith. Maybe if they created Indian characters as actual people instead of basing off of stereotypes, they would be more popular.

Aaaaand I suddenly lost all interest in this movie. Thanks Marvel, but no thanks. A non-asian TAO? Nah, that's a deal breaker for me.

I'm not going to write off the movie completely, but the lack of complaints from people from this blatant whitewash is quite hypocritical. If the Ancient One had originally been black, there would've been a huge media backlash.

And it makes me wonder what they'll do with Wong.

 

[Strangefan]

It has been a while since I've read through my entire collection, and each writer does their own thing, so what the truth is can only be opinion, but this is how I am looking at this whole thing:

The aged Genghis in Triumph and Torment made a bargain with the Vishanti at the dawn of mankind. Depending on how you look at it, it makes him at the very least 7,000 years old and possibly very much older. I do believe Strange once mentioned he was part of the Aged Genghis' sect, which to me means he follows the same path of magic Strange does, and it is well know that Strange's primary gods are the Vishanti, so it fits nicely.

I think it is likely that during that time, sorcerers that were capable of traveling throughout the multiverse, probably found their way around the world. It was likely they would occasionally teach a few of the people with mystic potential a few things. Not just Asian people, because I think talent for magic is much less common than some writers feel (those who think all you need to do is read a book and voila, teleporting about the world) and they will teach those the path of light, before they find the path of darkness. Perhaps they even visited Europe on occasion.

I see that with this whole idea of the Ancient One being a legacy title, why not have it passed down through thousands of years. Perhaps they will combine the Aged Genghis and the traditional Ancient One, with their Asian background, into one character. Perhaps even he was the one who taught the now current Ancient One, or a previous one of the distant past. Perhaps it is also the role of the Sorcerer Supreme to eventually become the Ancient One for Sorcerer (or "ess") Supreme as they evolve along their mystical path, who can be from either gender, any color.

Personally, I think they will show the Ancient One as a spiritual form, neither female or male, that acts as a conduit to the gods of other dimensions for the SS, Tilda is great at androgeny. Either way I don't object to Tilda playing the character. What I care about is that Wong is played by an Asian Man, and is giving a strong personality, and his own story as an inherited protector of the SS. Everyone needs back up.

Strange welcomes the melding of eastern and western worlds, and all they have to offer, but I would not say he practices Eastern magic, he practices inter-dimensional and universal-based magic. He takes everything that this world has to offer to enable him to protect the world in a better manner, and skipping out on half of it would be neglectful.

 

[metaphysician]

And that's exactly why his books have been struggling so much. No one seems to know how to make him distinct from all the other magic wielders.

Dr Strange has plenty to distinguish himself from the other magic wielders. Virtually none of them have the same 70s psychedelic high fantasy stye. Stripping that away from him to turn him into a bad Buddhism cliche would be missing the point.

As for why his books have struggled for decades? I'm going to blame it on bad writing, or more precisely, repeatedly sticking writers on it who are unsuited for the title. Dr Strange is not an Avenger, he shouldn't *be* an Avengers, so if you keep having writers whose idea for any given character is "give them Avengers plots", your going to have issues.