Deadpool 2 Tim Miller exits Deadpool 2

[MadVillainy]

No not in the sense of humor. It's hard to explain but I feel like the pairing needs to be very smart. The kind of actor they go for too. It's a business after all. Will Kyle be great at Cable. Possibly. Will he and Ryan match each other. It's hard to tell. Also I don't believe they should be going for an actor in that age range. I say someone similar to Ryan's age group. Personally I think Tom Hardy would be the best choice for Cable.

I don't know theres something about the word stylized that's just bugging me. A great sequel like X2, TDK, Spider-Man 2, Winter Soldier etc they build on what's already there. They add to it. Expand the world. Bring in interesting characters with good stories and what not. That's why those sequels are so successful because they take what's there and build on top of it. But completely changing the tone and style to me which sounds like what Tim is trying to do, doesn't sound good. Because you're taking a hugely successful movie and then you want to change the formula up. It could be either really good or really bad. You don't just wanna flip it on it's head because you have more money to play with. That's what I'm getting from this anyway. I'm most likely wrong but I hope people get what I'm trying to say.

I mean...I get every fanboy loved Hardy but we really need to just stop the "Hardy for everything" stuff. He's great but theres more than him and Michael Fassbender out there

 

[kevork89]

I mean...I get every fanboy loved Hardy but we really need to just stop the "Hardy for everything" stuff.

I know but he's so good I can't think of anyone else that can be that level like him. There are plenty of actors of course but both the physical and mental side he's the only one I picture.

 

[MadVillainy]

What kind of role are people expecting Cable to be playing that Hardy is the only choice to reach that level?

Im not saying get a trash actor but most of the suggested choices I've seen are fine actors and would do the role well.

You don't need a Hardy level actor for everything. That doesn't mean get a trash actor though

 

[2kt09]

And if we're talking long game then who should they go after? Most of the top fan choices are in their 50s and 60s

I mean it's moot now, but Chandler would've been fine.

Chandler's also in his 50s, so it's not like they were that concerned with age.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I love Tom Hardy. I do not understand the idea of Tom Hardy as Cable.

 

[Superhero 101]

This sucks I guess Vaughn would be a good choice

 

[Mike Murdock]

I think Tim Miller's directing was a huge contributor to the feel of the movie and made it the success it was. That being said, it's a no-brainer that you keep Reynolds and not the director. Reynolds is the one who is on screen.

Disappointing all around, though.

 

[-JKR-]

It is a no-brainer, but Tim Miller should've stayed on board. And Ryan Reynolds should have checked his ego, instead of letting Miller, who contributed a lot to the original movie's success, go.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

There's only one man who could save Deadpool 2 at this point...

Spoiler

Afterall, he saved the X-Men franchise.

 

[BatsDC]

#RatnerForDeadpool

 

[magneto23]

Curious what the specific issues/differences are between them. Not saying this is the case, but I really don't like the idea that Reynold's has the final say so on this X-Force world they're trying to build. Casting should be out of his hands IMO. This is bigger than Deadpool and Cable is too important for getting this entire cinematic universe on track.

 

[LoganGambit87]

It is a no-brainer, but Tim Miller should've stayed on board. And Ryan Reynolds should have checked his ego, instead of letting Miller, who contributed a lot to the original movie's success, go.

reynolds is the star,the producer and was championing this movie long before he chose tim miller as the director

you keep ryan reynolds you can always find another director i remember when people panicked after rupert wyatt left dawn of the planet of the apes or when Matthew Vaughn left days of future past

the writers are a big part of this project deadpool wouldn't of been anything without Rhett Reese & Paul Wernick and they are still on the project

 

[-JKR-]

If you said that the movie is not doomed, and that there's still a possibility that they get a director who knocks it out of the park, then that's fine.

But I don't like how easily people dismiss Tim Miller's contribution to the success and quality of the original Deadpool movie. He was an important part of what made the original movie so special - as much as producer/star Ryan Reynolds and the writers Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick were, and him exiting DOES change things.

 

[2kt09]

But I don't like how easily people dismiss Tim Miller's contribution to the success and quality of the original Deadpool movie. He was an important part of what made the original movie so special - as much as producer/star Ryan Reynolds and the writers Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick were, and him exiting DOES change things.

It's easy for me because I thought the movie was pretty good with some great moments here-n-there.
At this point I would much rather see how he tackles something else because what's done is done.

 

[LoganGambit87]

If you said that the movie is not doomed, and that there's still a possibility that they get a director who knocks it out of the park, then that's fine.

But I don't like how easily people dismiss Tim Miller's contribution to the success and quality of the original Deadpool movie. He was an important part of what made the original movie so special - as much as producer/star Ryan Reynolds and the writers Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick were, and him exiting DOES change things.

not saying he didn't do alot for deadpool he did but its not the end of the world

now if Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick left instead of Tim Miller then the film would be doomed since without a good script any film is doomed

 

[-JKR-]

not saying he didn't do alot for deadpool he did but its not the end of the world

now if Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick left instead of Tim Miller then the film would be doomed since without a good script any film is doomed

I think you've got a pretty distorted view on filmmaking.

As much as I loved Rhett Reese & Paul Wernick's script... I would've prefered having new writers, with Tim Miller still at the helm.

Spider-Man was written by David Koepp, Spider-Man 2 by Alvin Sargent. Guess what? Sam Raimi knocked it out of the f'ing park!

Screenwriter Steven E. De Souza was involved with both Die Hard and Die Hard 2. Director John McTiernan wasn't.

Renny Harlin's direction of Die Hard 2 isn't anywhere near that of John McTiernan's for Die Hard.

McTiernan returned for Die Hard with a Vengeance (which is written by Jonathan Hensleigh), and you really notice!

A script is a blueprint. It's the foundation. It has to be great. But it's the director and his vision which elevates the material to something much more special.

Do you think Gremlins would have been the same if it had the same script by Chris Columbus, but another director? Or Die Hard - if it had the same script by Jeb Stuart and Steven E. De Souza, but another director? Do you think Deadpool would have been as good with the same script, but directed by someone like Jeff Wadlow, Brett Ratner or Len Weisman?

 

[def28]

A good script is crucial regardless of your opinion and Deadpool can survive with a new Director given he or she gets the material and has the skills. Plenty of people did like the Deadpool script (which is very close to the film) which is what started all the good wom when it leaked.

Also, the Die Hard 2 script was not as strong. Both need to click one way or the other. Your using ****** Directors to prove a point and since we don't know who is Directing Deadpool 2 there shouldn't be any jumping to conclusions.

It really sucks that Tim's gone especially after all the fighting over the years. But there are more Directors in the world then Tim Miller who can make this movie. And if the scripts not there, then it will show just as much as a poor Directing choice.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm just waiting to see if a real director comes on board or an easily controllable new dude.

 

[def28]

Pretty much.

 

[-JKR-]

A good script is crucial regardless of your opinion and Deadpool can survive with a new Director given he or she gets the material and has the skills. Plenty of people did like the Deadpool script (which is very close to the film) which is what started all the good wom when it leaked.

Also, the Die Hard 2 script was not as strong. Both need to click one way or the other. Your using ****** Directors to prove a point and since we don't know who is Directing Deadpool 2 there shouldn't be any jumping to conclusions.

It really sucks that Tim's gone especially after all the fighting over the years. But there are more Directors in the world then Tim Miller who can make this movie.

A director is as crucial as the script. This, or Deadpool 2 becomes Rhett Reese & Paul Wernick's directing debut (they've talked about wanting to direct).

You can have a great script, which gets bogged down by an average director's execution.

You can have a pretty good script, which gets turned into something great by a great director.

I'm just waiting to see if a real director comes on board or an easily controllable new dude.

Considering why Miller left, I'd say the latter.

 

[I Am The Knight]

God, so much whining.

I wonder what "stylized" sequel is supposed to mean, exactly? These days, every time I read the word "style" I think of Zack Snyder

 

[def28]

God, so much whining.

I wonder what "stylized" sequel is supposed to mean, exactly? These days, every time I read the word "style" I think of Zack Snyder

Yeah that seemed really vague. Who said that El Mayimbe? We hardly know details so who knows.

For these two to fall out over the last films success and the many years of fighting to get this made, things must have been bad.

 

[-JKR-]

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[Darepool]

Seems like Tim may have wanted to push the sequel into new territories while Ryan wanted to do what worked in the first film and emphasize the comedy in the sequel....Basically play it safe vs take more risk with what worked.

 

[-JKR-]

Seems like Tim may have wanted to push the sequel into new territories while Ryan wanted to do what worked in the first film and emphasize the comedy in the sequel....Basically play it safe vs take more risk with what worked.

Exactly. Which is why I'm not really anticipating Deadpool 2 without Tim Miller at the helm. If I want more of the same, I'll just pop in the Deadpool blu-ray.

I know it's not worth anything coming from me, but Ryan Reynolds can go screw himself. This really is a d**k move.