TMOS Set & Official Photo Thread - Discussion Welcome - - - Part 12

[Kane52630]

 

[Reel-Man]

This is the "permawhite" debate for Man of Steel. When TDK was coming out, a lot of people were upset that the Joker wasn't permawhite and that he was wearing makeup. They thought that the color of his skin was an essential part of the character. In fact, it was just fan boyism - being upset that the iconography doesn't match comic book dream. When the movie came out the fresh approach on the Joker worked perfectly; it helped ground the whole thing a little more and made it less cartoonish.
It's the same here. I know the vibrant red, yellow, and blue seems like a cornerstone, but it is truly not necessary to the character or to the story. It's just your fanatic nostalgia coming through. I think nocking the colors down like they have will probably make Superman more reasonable and relatable, - more like a man and less like a comic book character.

The suit when you see it in set photos or at conventions, it looks amazing and not overly saturated that it scream "cartoony". How does muting the colors make it grittier or make the film better? The suit works as it is, it's just that WB are so stuck on Batman that they are too scared showing Superman's actual colors (suit's proper colors). What many on this board fail to understand is that us not liking the muted colors doesn't mean we won't go see the film or that it will take away from the enjoyment of the film, it won't.

I'm getting fed up that in this day and age with all the improvements in filmmaking technology and theater projection we still get films having drastic dark or moody coloration applied to them in post production. One problem it might cause for me is watching it in 3D. The glasses make the image much darker due to the polarizing lenses, so having an already "darker" image will impact it more. Unless they do what Michael Bay did for DOTM where he made the print much brighter to compensate for the this and also sent the specific calibration settings to the theater.

 

[Dark Sentinel]

I actually love the color pallet of this film. And in regards to the "muted" quality of the suit, I think it gives the impression that the suit itself is far older than in previous iterations of the mythos, and that gives it weight and substance, putting more emphasis on how Kal-El's alien heritage can be reused as a symbol of Earth's champion.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

I hope the suit looks like this throughout the movie.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

I say there's a beam.

 

[WarriorDreamer]

It's strange, the suit looks like such a thick materiel, but it still kinda clings to his muscles. Either Henry is super ripped, so ripped that his muscles show through a
n extremely thick suit, or the suit itself is moulded to make him look more muscular.

Either way, it's super cool and I remember when we got our first pic of him by the huge vault and how epic that was and then look how far we've come since then.

 

[747]

like an orange/red tinted beam. there were hints of that color in the image with zod's eyes heating up.

 

[moviefreak]

I hope the suit looks like this throughout the movie.

I think that it is safe to say that the suit's blue colour tone will change throughout the film depending on the light source & environment.

The actual suit that Cavill wore is almost metallic looking, whether it is due to either the "chain-mail" materials effect or surface rendering of the outer fabric I cannot say unless I get to see it up close physically. I think that was why we are seeing inconsistency in the photoshoots for various magazines - the suit seems to be hard on photographer's lighting.

But hey, I love the images that I'm seeing so far. The imact will be much grander on a bigger screen. This is why I suggested to some people to have respect for the Donner/Reeve Superman. Unless you have seen it on big screen, it's hard to explain the impact. The Superman film I saw in 1978 was so fresh, bright, with absolutely magical sound & music, not so much now (exception is the Blu-Ray version) as the film deteriorated over time.

 

[DKDetective]

It's strange, the suit looks like such a thick materiel, but it still kinda clings to his muscles. Either Henry is super ripped, so ripped that his muscles show through a
n extremely thick suit, or the suit itself is moulded to make him look more muscular.

Although Cavill was super ripped during filming, it is the latter. A recent interview with Mackenzie Gray confirmed that there is a middle "rubber" layer molded to Cavill's muscles. Muscle is muscle and it is soft and fleshy. It will always be compressed and flattened out by tight clothing, especially something as thick and textured as the new Supersuit. A muscle suit worn under the costume is completely necessary to maintain the appearance of a Comic Book physique no matter how built the actor is. However, they should be praised for making a very good one this time around.

 

[WarriorDreamer]

Although Cavill was super ripped during filming, it is the latter. A recent interview with Mackenzie Gray confirmed that there is a middle "rubber" layer molded to Cavill's muscles. Muscle is muscle and it is soft and fleshy. It will always be compressed and flattened out by tight clothing, especially something as thick and textured as the new Supersuit. A muscle suit worn under the costume is completely necessary to maintain the appearance of a Comic Book physique no matter how built the actor is. However, they should be praised for making a very good one this time around.

Yes very good. In motion most people would think every bump and muscle there is all him. I think he is still more muscular than Chris Reeve's.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

He's most definitely much more muscular than Reeve was.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

The JLA manips rub in the fact that Superman now has the best costume ever. Not too stylized and over the top, and not to realistic and boring. It's a combination of the realistic "armored" approach, with the traditional Superman costume, without the undies or S on the back. Why people still complain about it, I don't know.

As a Batman fan, I'd LOVE for him to have a costume in movies nearly as good as the one used in Man of Steel.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

It's not like we haven't seen Cavill shirtless yet. Dude is pretty ripped...

 

[Lead Cenobite]

I don't think it's a fair comparison because the only time we see Reeve shirtless is when he's in bed with Kidder in Superman II without the benefit of being in some intense action sequence and covered in sweat and bodyhair, but comparing them in their respective suits, I think Reeve looks beefier. Over all, visually he's the total package as far as Superman is concerned, and Cavill hasn't quite topped him in my eyes.

 

[Norek]

I don't think it's a fair comparison because the only time we see Reeve shirtless is when he's in bed with Kidder in Superman II without the benefit of being in some intense action sequence and covered in sweat and bodyhair, but comparing them in their respective suits, I think Reeve looks beefier. Over all, visually he's the total package as far as Superman is concerned, and Cavill hasn't quite topped him in my eyes.

Even in the suit, Cavill looks better than Reeve in my opinion, body-wise. Beefier doesn't mean more ripped or muscular. For me, as a person that's been into bodybuilding and weight-lifting for quite a while, Cavill looks much more impressive. But I can understand people liking Reeve's appearance more.

 

[DKDetective]

Even in the suit, Cavill looks better than Reeve in my opinion, body-wise. Beefier doesn't mean more ripped or muscular. For me, as a person that's been into bodybuilding and weight-lifting for quite a while, Cavill looks much more impressive. But I can understand people liking Reeve's appearance more.

Agreed. It's all about how you can see his lats from the front. With the exception of Gary Frank's Reeve inspired work and Earth One, Superman is typically portrayed as barrel chested with a strong V shape to his torso. As admirable as Reeve's commitment to looking like a physical embodiment of the character was for the time, he had string bean, tall man genetics. Even in Superman III, he often looked lanky and lacked the character's traditional thickness and width. Although Superman is supposed to be 6'4", he is typically drawn with the proportions of a person with more average height. Through a combination of genetics, greater muscle mass and a damn good muscle suit, I also think that Cavill is a much closer physical representation of the character's typical appearance in the comics.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

I'm no bodybuilding expert, but Reeve still looks bigger to me in the suit. Not just taller, but bigger. I have doubts Cavill could have pulled off spandex and nothing else, meaning no layer of rubber under the suit. And aside from the muscles, I think Reeve had a better face for Superman. He seems more masculine and mature, even considering Reeve was around 24 when he made the first movie and Cavill was around 28 when he made Man of Steel.

 

[Norek]

I'm no bodybuilding expert, but Reeve still looks bigger to me in the suit. Not just taller, but bigger. I have doubts Cavill could have pulled off spandex and nothing else, meaning no layer of rubber under the suit. And aside from the muscles, I think Reeve had a better face for Superman. He seems more masculine and mature, even considering Reeve was around 24 when he made the first movie and Cavill was around 28 when he made Man of Steel.

To each his own. Reeve doesn't look that big and impressive to me, even though for his height, he's big. But as I said, just being big doesn't impress me. I have no personal attachment to Reeve as you do, so there's that. And I don't have one to Cavill, as a matter of fact, I've only seen him in Immortals (I think).

 

[Super Kal]

I say there's a beam.

what is this from?

 

[747]

I love the new heat vision, unexpected but awesome.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

 

[MrMaooz]

Jus' curious, whats in the movie guide?

 

[Kal-El.9859]

Jus' curious, whats in the movie guide?

I have no clue...give me 8 days and I'll find out

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Cool!

 

[WoodyROM]

Does anyone know where the new pics in the no discussion thread came from?