TMOS Set & Official Photo Thread - Discussion Welcome - Part 7

[Adenjo]

I'm not sure i'd want a JL movie, i'd be al for a CGI Kingdom Come but really not sure I really want Justice league on film.

 

[Micromind]

Nice Cape.

Spoiler

 

[Rust]

Since Snyder discounted his films and Cavill as being part of Justice League, what about Benjamin Walker as the Justice League Superman?

He's 6'3, the right age and getting some good Hollywood buzz.

I got that beat. How about we start casting the reboot after the MOS-trilogy.

 

[BigThor]

That's an impressive plot and very reminiscent of the Superman/Batman Apokolips storyline. I would love to see it play out like that in a movie.

Thanks man I would love to see that play out in the film as well, I alot of people want to see him in a JL film but that's just too far away imo.

 

[mclay18]

Rockstar, you constantly state your opinions as fact, when they're not. You make some good points, but then totally annihilate it with "Marvel sets the standard for comic book movie yadda yadda." They have a method that works for them, and what works for them doesn't always apply to other studios.

 

[The Shape]

Here's the thing: Compared to the individual heroes of The Avengers, the possibility of Batman and Superman sharing the screen would amount to immense hysteria. Literally all of the Avengers team (including Iron Man and Cap) are a tier below Bats and Supes when it comes to iconic stature. All of the recent Marvel successes have featured heroes newly exposed to the mass general public. Strangely, the Hulk has seen the least success. Batman and Superman, as well as Wonder Woman for that matter, are pop culture icons who have been featured in live action for decades and undergone many changes and transitions. Can't you imagine the epic marketing alone?

A JL movie will certainly happen one day, if not sooner than later, and it could be a tremendous success. I, personally, think it would be much cooler to see a purely Batman/Superman crossover. With less extraneous characters to focus on, a film like that could be as dramatic, serious-minded, and awesome was TDK was.

 

[shauner111]

Here's the thing: Compared to the individual heroes of The Avengers, the possibility of Batman and Superman sharing the screen would amount to immense hysteria. Literally all of the Avengers team (including Iron Man and Cap) are a tier below Bats and Supes when it comes to iconic stature. All of the recent Marvel successes have featured heroes newly exposed to the mass general public. Strangely, the Hulk has seen the least success. Batman and Superman, as well as Wonder Woman for that matter, are pop culture icons who have been featured in live action for decades and undergone many changes and transitions. Can't you imagine the epic marketing alone?

A JL movie will certainly happen one day, if not sooner than later, and it could be a tremendous success. I, personally, think it would be much cooler to see a purely Batman/Superman crossover. With less extraneous characters to focus on, a film like that could be as dramatic, serious-minded, and awesome was TDK was.

Yes but it also comes down to the actors. Iron Man will never be as huge of a deal unless Robert Downey Jr is in the role. His humor and presence is what made those movies an attraction. Even if they pumped out Iron Man years prior with a different cast, it wouldn't have been that successful.

OK Superman and Batman are more iconic no matter who's playing them. But after the Nolan movies and upcoming Superman, this audience is now much smarter than before. Coming off Bale and Keaton, there's no way we're gonna get excited over some no name or hollywood heart-throb who cant act or look the part. After Cavill wins over the crowd with his more physical and serious take on Supes, people wont flock to see another Superman unless it's somebody who screams the part.

Fact is, it'll be successful no matter what, but its not a guarantee it'll do as well as Avengers commercially or critically. Even if they make it more serious than The Avengers movie. It's down to the cast IMO. None of the avengers come close to Batman or Superman (dont think Wonder Woman is as big to ppl these days as you seem to think) BUT will they launch solo films to hype up Justice League? Or do it randomly in one shot? Will they produce the Downeys, Sam Jacksons, Renners and Ruffalos? Who have the reputation for being in good serious flicks outside of the comic universe. Comes down to whether they get believable & big-money actors or just a bunch of youngster actors who nobody has heard of

 

[mclay18]

Here's the thing: Compared to the individual heroes of The Avengers, the possibility of Batman and Superman sharing the screen would amount to immense hysteria. [...] Batman and Superman, as well as Wonder Woman for that matter, are pop culture icons who have been featured in live action for decades and undergone many changes and transitions. Can't you imagine the epic marketing alone?

Oh hell yes. It's a shame the ideal Batman/Superman teamup won't include Christian Bale... unless Nolan is interested in producing a 'World's Finest' film or it's being helmed by a director Bale wants to work with.

It seems like, save for what Nolan has produced or revived (like MOS), WB can't get their act together when it comes to their DC live-action movies. Imagine if they ran it as well as they did with their animated division... oh the possibilities there.

 

[The Shape]

Yes but it also comes down to the actors. Iron Man will never be as huge of a deal unless Robert Downey Jr is in the role. His humor and presence is what made those movies an attraction. Even if they pumped out Iron Man years prior with a different cast, it wouldn't have been that successful.

OK Superman and Batman are more iconic no matter who's playing them. But after the Nolan movies and upcoming Superman, this audience is now much smarter than before. Coming off Bale and Keaton, there's no way we're gonna get excited over some no name or hollywood heart-throb who cant act or look the part. After Cavill wins over the crowd with his more physical and serious take on Supes, people wont flock to see another Superman unless it's somebody who screams the part.

I disagree. It's a generational things. These properties will be around forever. I was a youngster when Keaton's Batman came to theaters. I grew up on that **** and worshipped it. Now, as a young(ish) adult, I can appreciate that original series AND this new one with Bale on so many levels. Later in my life, I know for a fact that I'll be amped up ANY time a Batman project is in the works. Doesn't really matter the name of the actor. He can make the role his own, add a new stamp on the character, and new directors will give us fresh visions and stories.

It's not as if Evans or Hemsworth were "name" actors before they were cast, but they made a name for themselves with these roles. A decade or two down the line, there'll will be a new Cap that will be presented with a new vision. All of these franchises have entered themselves into an endless repeating cycle, especially for Batman. There will be success and failures down the line, but I'm confident there will be excitement over any Batman film. Hopefully Superman's place in pop culture can be repopularized after he kicks ass in this movie.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

I think that when you dealing with a comic franchise you need to establish a shared universe, especially when those comic characters share the same universe and interacting with them on a regular basis. How is creating a shared universe on film a bad thing? I just don't understand where some of you are coming from saying it wouldn't work. I mean unless WB just doesn't give a **** then fine...don't do it.

 

[Herolee10]

And the sad thing is, DC and Warner Bros; had they gotten their act together a long time ago, they could have EASILY beaten Marvel to the punch of establishing well known heroes within a shared universe before culminating it into a Ensemble film.

Unlike Marvel, DC didn't have the issue where their characters were owned by several different big time studios.

Heck, after the failure of B&R, they could have started planning for success and go on from there with creating a shared universe, and if fate woudl have allowed it, we would have had a kickass JLA film before 2008.

Also, the interesting obstacle when it comes to presenting these characters in a shared universe is:

1. Unlike characters like Captain America, there really isn't a easy way or presenting some of the founding members of the JLA in having been from another time period, hence the reason why they're not helping other heroes during the present day before the Ensemble film.

2. With characters like Superman, how do you establish on why he's not going around and helping the other heroes given on what he can do? Not to mention, most of superman's well known enemies are more than capable of summoning a threat that can endanger the entire earth and Superman has been shown on being able to counter that without calling for other league members.

Also, unlike Marvel Studios' current line of heroes, most of the JLA's heroes are known as well established public heroes who aren't off in secret military missions or in other realms or off the grid while running away from the military. So, how would you keep these guys from calling for aid to any of the JLA members.

I swear, whoever comes up and successfully executes a JLA franchise comprised of well established heroes in a shared universe will be hailed as as a freaking genius imho.lol

And one thing is for sure, even if there is a JLA film within the next 10 years, Henry Cavil, if MOS proves to be a success, won't be the Superman in it.

And even though audiences won't be confused about there being two supermans, there will obviously be fan wars about who's the better superman along with which superman would audiences be more invested in given that we would have seen Henry's superman from a origin story and I doubt that they'd make another superman origin film while Henry is still superman just so that it could lead into a JLA film.

Idk, the way I see it, Warner Bros can't make a great JLA film with solo films going into it for the needed characters until at least 15 years from now.

 

[Micromind]

With characters like Superman, how do you establish on why he's not going around and helping the other heroes given on what he can do?

Characters like Flash, Green Lantern and Wonder Woman do not need any help.

Only time such heroes are needed together is when there is a threat that they cannot face alone.

Batman is mostly working in a stealth mode at night, using his detective skills and he has his resources, so it is not like he needs assistance from other heroes .

Would Iron man need help from Hulk on a regular basis to defeat his enemies ? No, same logic for Batman not needing help from Superman to tackle crime in Gotham.

 

[Kane52630]

I'm not sure i'd want a JL movie, i'd be al for a CGI Kingdom Come but really not sure I really want Justice league on film.

Same here, I prefer either a Kingdom Come animated film (using the same style as Ross) or a JSA live action film.

 

[manofsteel4life]

I always thought starting with a worlds finest would be a good way to go to start a justice league. Then if successful, make sequels introducing the other members, what you guys think?

 

[Showtime]

I agree. I think that they go with Batman/Superman first. They have so many scripts lying around, who knows what they are going to do. Oh that's right...LOBO...

 

[manofsteel4life]

Lol yea I was like wtf??? When I read that....I just don't get WB sometimes

 

[Project862006]

lobo has been in development since 09 when guy ritchie was attached

this was'nt some new project out of the blue

 

[Rust]

And they wanna water it down as well. Which would probably help the budget and BO potential, but pretty much destroy what made the character in the first place.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

lobo has been in development since 09 when guy ritchie was attached

this was'nt some new project out of the blue

exactly...not that I was interested in the slightest about this movie, but I REALLY have NO interest in it what-so-ever now. I know he has a following but I just don't think a Lobo film would be successful...they are just wasting time and money on this

 

[DIRECTOR]

for a photo discussion thread, there isn't that much photo discussion

 

[mclay18]

I agree. I think that they go with Batman/Superman first. They have so many scripts lying around, who knows what they are going to do.

If WB doesn't decide to go ahead with Lobo, they really ought to dig up those drafts of Batman vs. Superman by Walker and Goldsman, have a writer retool it, and try to get an established director to revive it. (I don't see why they can't at least try to get it back up with a new writer.)

Heck, I think even Wolfgang Peterson would do a decent 'World's Finest' film. The man can direct competently and stage some stunning CGI sequences... and when was the last time he's worked?

 

[Super Kal]

for a photo discussion thread, there isn't that much photo discussion

there arent that many photos

 

[Rust]

exactly...not that I was interested in the slightest about this movie, but I REALLY have NO interest in it what-so-ever now. I know he has a following but I just don't think a Lobo film would be successful...they are just wasting time and money on this

That's what I'm thinking. He'll be a really hard sell, and that's not really their best force when it comes to superheroes. Could go either way though. Hellboy was fairly successful and he was a somewhat obscure character.

 

[Micromind]

Lobo is like what Punisher was to Marvel.

And look how successful that turned out to be.

 

[Rust]

Lobo like Punisher? What? I dont think Lobo has a Marvel-equivalent. Lobo is a quirky character and Marvel doesnt really have quirky characters as such IMO. They're kinda one-track-minded in that regard.