Hey I did love the movie for the fact that it gave Batman the serious cinematic edge that he deserved, and again Elfman's score. Back then I was just happy to have a dark and serious Batman movie. But alot of things were just out of place to me just as there were things out of place in BB for some people. Begins just gave me more of a nostalgic rememberance of the comics that made me such a fan of the character.
Co-sign.
Yup. Same here as well.
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-"Wait'll they getta' load a' me." "Where does he get those Wonderful Toys?" 
-"I'm BATMAN."
Oh no I took no offense. I just don't want to misrepresent myself as a complete B'89 hater. I'm more than glad that we can come to a more civil understanding and acceptance of our difference of perspective and opinion. If anything we're still all Batman fans no matter what side of the spectrum we
Begins doesn't even remind me of the comics, Nolan got it wrong.
Burton got ALOT more wrong than Nolan did!!
Now see I can respect that. You're not out to 'bash' anyone's preference, only expressing your fondness of a certain take on the character. And I'll completely agree with something I've read of you that there is no one definitive take on the character. The comics are much more of an example of that than any of the movies, shows, or serials are. But there is a clear and precise essence to the character which both B'89 and BB give homage to in their own way.Yeah, it took me a while to realize that my problems with Nolan's film/franchise didn't boil down to things I think he made in error.... it's the stuff he did as a result of outside factors. He goes from the modern Bat comics, which I don't enjoy anywhere near as much as the older material. In a nutshell, that's my problem with BB, I've finally realized.
"Nolanites" being overreactive is pretty rare. It usually only happens when "Burtonites" go on an anti-Nolan rampage.
And if I don't instigate a problem, then there isn't one. It's remarkable.
I'll admit that I do still have a soft spot for that suit. But I still wish they would have just added the Returns cowl to the B'89 suit for Returns! Though I will always prefer the scalloped end cowl to Keaton's suit than Kilmer's.
Actually, that's false. Nolan's movies are actually a cross combination of the 70's material and of some of the late 80's and early 90's work. More inspiration comes from classic material with Nolan than anything. I really don't see where and why you'd think he is strictly making his movie from a modern Bat comics angle. To be brutally honest, Nolan's film is the best thus far in trying in same way shape or form give credit and homages to ALL eras of the Batman mythos. Even down to little scenes such as the "pow, zap, and wham" sound being made on the piano by Bruce for entrance to the cave. But in terms of tone ... Nolan's film is heavily based in that 70's era feel.DocLathropBrown said:
They will forever be compared and connected. Don't get mad, that's the way it will always be. Everyone is being civilized here, don't be a clown and add actual fuel to the fire. We're just discussing.Nolan, Nolan, blah, blah, blah. This thread is about the original BATMAN film not NOLAN or Batman Begins! Gah!
