The Flash Tom Cavanaugh IS Harrison Wells/Eobard Thawne/Reverse-Flash

[luis4u]

The power to be in two places

 

[Guardian7]

Isn't the seeing yourself via time travel

a Marvel rule or at least a former rule.

I know it isn't a DC one...


I'd still love for Well's to be Abra...

But... I'm not sure Abra could hold back his need of the limelight, well unless the completely revamp... Something CW writers can't seems help doing...

I don't think he's Barry though...

Could it be Bart? Grown up? He'd have a stake...

Time Lord is too out there...

Time Trapper is too Legion...

Johnny Quick is too other Earth...

Vandal Savage is too out there...

So unfortunately it's probably a version of Zoom...

 

[MatthewZD]

DC used to have a rule pre-COIE that if someone time-traveled to a point in history when they existed that person would have a non-corporeal form. For example, Superman could not go back and save Bruce Wayne's parents because he was a boy in Smallville at the same time.

As for Wells, I don't think he's future Barry. First, like many others I can't imagine any version of Barry where he would murder someone (even Stagg) in cold blood. Artistic license is one thing, but that is TOO out of character. Second, I have seen photos of former classmates I haven't seen in person in decades and still recognize them. However, Barry and Wells do look enough alike that they could be related.

Wells' name has been discussed at length -- Harrison Wells = H. (G.) Wells = time travel -- but has anyone anywhere asked why he chose Harrison as a first name?

Harrison means literally "son of Harry", which is a nickname for Henry. Yes, I know Barry's father is named Henry, and yes, I know this seems to strengthen the future Barry argument. Remember, Barry had a grandson named after him. Maybe in this TV universe Barry names his son after his father, and that son has a son who is a "son of Harry"; or as a pseudonym Wells decided to honor Barry's father.

Plus, another line of dialogue I remember; Wells is counseling Barry about Iris and tells him "you don't want to be the reason they break up." Meaning, Iris would hold it against Barry, they would never get together ...

and Wells would be butterflied out of existence.

My gut feeling is he's Bart or some other descendant.

 

[Batmannerism]

DC used to have a rule pre-COIE that if someone time-traveled to a point in history when they existed that person would have a non-corporeal form. For example, Superman could not go back and save Bruce Wayne's parents because he was a boy in Smallville at the same time.

As for Wells, I don't think he's future Barry. First, like many others I can't imagine any version of Barry where he would murder someone (even Stagg) in cold blood. Artistic license is one thing, but that is TOO out of character. Second, I have seen photos of former classmates I haven't seen in person in decades and still recognize them. However, Barry and Wells do look enough alike that they could be related.

Wells' name has been discussed at length -- Harrison Wells = H. (G.) Wells = time travel -- but has anyone anywhere asked why he chose Harrison as a first name?

Harrison means literally "son of Harry", which is a nickname for Henry. Yes, I know Barry's father is named Henry, and yes, I know this seems to strengthen the future Barry argument. Remember, Barry had a grandson named after him. Maybe in this TV universe Barry names his son after his father, and that son has a son who is a "son of Harry"; or as a pseudonym Wells decided to honor Barry's father.

Plus, another line of dialogue I remember; Wells is counseling Barry about Iris and tells him "you don't want to be the reason they break up." Meaning, Iris would hold it against Barry, they would never get together ...

and Wells would be butterflied out of existence.

My gut feeling is he's Bart or some other descendant.

Nice. Hadn't even thought of H. Wells - as in H.G. Wells, so very likely to be a pseudonym.

I'm still convinced that Wells is the Reverse Flash, and his willingness to kill to protect Barry is motivated by his need to ensure his own future existence.

One way or another, looking forward to the next episode when we'll probably find out.

cheers !

 

[vantheman77]

I just saw a Superfriends cartoon that feature a Dr. Wells. Could Harrison Wells be based on the Superfriends version of Dr. Wells and not a made-for-TV character?

 

[Comics]

I just saw a Superfriends cartoon that feature a Dr. Wells. Could Harrison Wells be based on the Superfriends version of Dr. Wells and not a made-for-TV character?

What happened in the cartoon?

 

[Nathan]

What happened in the cartoon?

Found this.

Everyone has been scouring comic books, TV and movies for answers as to the identity and motives of The Flash's Harrison Wells...but did they miss a potentially huge clue by not re-watching old Super Friends episodes?

Geoff Johns, of course, is executive producing the series and has reportedly had a good deal of creative input. He's repurposed characters from Super Friends before, when the Wonder Twins and Wonder Dog appeared during his run in Teen Titans. But those were major characters, whereas a new fan theory proposed by Jonathan Corbitt via Facebook suggests a minor character seen in (one third of) one episode might be key to the mystery.

One thing that you should look into about the "Harrison Wells" theory, is an old, 1980 superfriends episode, "The Elevator to Nowhere". In the cartoon, Wonder Woman and the Atom are summoned by a Dr. Wells. He tells the duo that he can be reached belowground and for them to get into the elevator, which is really a time machine, and they are forced to go on a time travelling adventure unwillingly. Eventually they get back to the present (1980) and incarcerate Dr. Wells. I never says Dr. Wells' First name, but I would assume this is the same, infamous Dr. Harrison Wells.

As you can see from the image above, the art on Dr. Wells does look a little bit like actor Tom Cavanagh would look if he were drawn into an episode of Scooby-Doo. Maybe there's something to it!

A closer look at the episode doesn't reveal anything that Corbitt's initial theory doesn't. The story runs only about 8 minutes, and much of that is spent with Wonder Woman being arrested by George Washington, or Blackbeard the pirate trapping The Atom in a jar.

That said -- it's hard to ignore the fact that Harrison Wells' intimate little chamber, where he's been seen tinkering with time-travel stuff, could easily double as the "elevator" in the cartoon. Hmm...!

Source

 

[Bathead]

I just saw a Superfriends cartoon that feature a Dr. Wells. Could Harrison Wells be based on the Superfriends version of Dr. Wells and not a made-for-TV character?

Nope. It's already been officially stated that Wells is a completely new character invented for the show. At most, it's possible the name was inspired by the SF character.

 

[MatthewZD]

I just saw a Superfriends cartoon that feature a Dr. Wells. Could Harrison Wells be based on the Superfriends version of Dr. Wells and not a made-for-TV character?

I saw some blogs and posts about that. The producers have a great affection for the obscure (anyone else surprised when the H.I.V.E. was mentioned on Arrow?) but this seems TOO obscure.

Wells is a fairly common name. I'd accept the name as a nod to the Dr. Wells from "The Six Million Dollar Man" over this character.

 

[3dman27]

you have a point there

 

[Breogan]

Wells is a fairly common name. I'd accept the name as a nod to the Dr. Wells from "The Six Million Dollar Man" over this character.

Or H. G. Wells, author of the Time Machine.

But It'd be an awesome nod...

Can we add Blackout as a Black Vulcan nod too?
And expect inevitable nods to Samurai, Apache and El Dorado?

 

[DigificWriter]

It's been said that Wells is an original character not from the comics, but that doesn't necessarily rule out him being based on that similarly named character from the Super Friends cartoon.

Nice find on that, BTW.

 

[Human Torch]

Or H. G. Wells, author of the Time Machine.

But It'd be an awesome nod...

Can we add Blackout as a Black Vulcan nod too?
And expect inevitable nods to Samurai, Apache and El Dorado?

Heh.Looks just like him!What are the odds?

 

[handsofsteel]

Nice. Hadn't even thought of H. Wells - as in H.G. Wells, so very likely to be a pseudonym.

I'm still convinced that Wells is the Reverse Flash, and his willingness to kill to protect Barry is motivated by his need to ensure his own future existence.

One way or another, looking forward to the next episode when we'll probably find out.

cheers !

Reverse Flash, is what I thought too.

 

[DigificWriter]

If Wells were the RF, he wouldn't be trying to help Barry take the RF down, as doing so would endanger himself and his own existence should Barry kill the RF.

 

[vantheman77]

Great article about Dr. Wells and Superfriends. It could be a combination of HG Wells and the Superfriends version.

I think Wells is preparing Barry for the Reverse-Flash as well as the Crisis. It wouldn't surprise me if they bring in the time elevator.

 

[EssayM]

More probably, both the SF character and the Flash character were both named after H.G. Wells individually because both had to do with time travel, and this is all just a big coincidence.

 

[3dman27]

is it possible prof.wells is really DR MARTIN STEIN 1/2 of firestorm if I understand futures end correctly

Spoiler

firestorm is flash's murderer

 

[DigificWriter]

is it possible prof.wells is really DR MARTIN STEIN 1/2 of firestorm if I understand futures end correctly

Spoiler

firestorm is flash's murderer

No. Stein has been cast, and will be played by Victor Garber.

 

[Norek]

Nope. It's already been officially stated that Wells is a completely new character invented for the show. At most, it's possible the name was inspired by the SF character.

Just like it was officially stated that John Blake and Miranda Tate are completely new characters invented for TDKR... Seriously though, I agree, this is not the same Dr. Wells, but I still think it'll turn out that Wells is actually someone else from the comics, and not just a new character after all.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ Can people please stop with the "producers are lying" conspiracy theories? Sometimes a spade is just a spade.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

^ Can people please stop with the "producers are lying" conspiracy theories? Sometimes a spade is just a spade.

It simply comes down to us knowing from experience that we can't count something out simply because someone denied it, it's not a "conspiracy theory", we aren't saying the producers are lying about Wells, we simply have been fooled several times by producers/directors/writers/actors denying something for the sake of preserving the surprise, and are therefore keeping all possibilities open when it comes to Wells, especially with time travel involved. Well's may very well be an original character as the producers have said, and the more we see the more I think that's the case, but until we know for sure I'm not counting anything out.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ Kreisberg did not have to clarify that Wells was an original character when he made the statement about such being the case. It was not a direct response to a question; he took it upon himself to expressly articulate that one particular fact about the character when he could've just stayed silent. Why would he go to the trouble of blatantly lying about a subject that he himself brought up?

Choosing to believe that Kreisberg's statement is a lie - when there is no reason based on his behavior to believe such is the case - IS a conspiracy theory.

 

[OriginalMiles]

Reverse Flash speaks in this promo.

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If you take the audio clip and make the voice a higher pitch, you can clearly tell that it's Wells.

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It's pretty obvious without any alterations too - the way he pronounces "Flash" is similar to Wells too.

 

[king666]

^ Kreisberg did not have to clarify that Wells was an original character when he made the statement about such being the case. It was not a direct response to a question; he took it upon himself to expressly articulate that one particular fact about the character when he could've just stayed silent. Why would he go to the trouble of blatantly lying about a subject that he himself brought up?

Choosing to believe that Kreisberg's statement is a lie - when there is no reason based on his behavior to believe such is the case - IS a conspiracy theory.

means ****, honestly