Tom Welling To Wear the Superman Returns Suit

[al35077]

Well, DCU Online is being silly, because Superman can only grow a beard if he loses his powers, or decides to vacation on a planet orbiting a red sun. Also, Superman with a beard sounds more like Superman Prime.

And I never read Birthright, so I wouldn't know.
But yeah, Silver/Bronze/Gold/Modern Age Superman all never can grow beards.

But still, I find it entertaining that Smallville gave up on Tom's 5 o'clock shadow.
I mean, let's face it, Superman's five o'clock shadow could slice through diamonds, and etch glass.
I don't think Lois would want to snuggle up to that.

Well, Superman 3 did show that Superman can grow a 5 o'clock shadow if he gets affected by weird Kryptonite.

I read a superman book where he got out of the shower and was whistleing a little tune. there was no kryptonite any where near him and he notices some stubble and procedes to shave with his heat vision by looking in the mirror. and that book was based on the death of superman graphic novel

 

[DavidB1111]

Okay, so maybe sometimes he's grown a beard, but he usually can't without having no powers. So, I'm confused.

And what is that comic from, AgentPat?

Canon is defined as what is currently official canon in the comics. The current origin stories of Superman and all that.

Look, all I did was mention that I though it was nice that Smallville gave up on it.
I didn't expect people to think I was trying to insult the comics in general.

Al, really? Huh. Weird. Because last time I checked, he couldn't grow a beard.
Well, that's odd.

 

[Prison Mike]

What is Modern Era? Is it from Bryne to now? Because I've definitely seen a comic where he's shaving (probably back in the 90s).

 

[Karelia]

Here's a long descriptive reply to Superman's ability to grow beards:

Superman's beard has changed over the years. Back in the 60's, when they first started paying attention to such little continuity issues, it was stated that his hair, beard and nails don't grow. (That makes no sense to me, they are all dead tissue, and as we all know he's supposed to be invulnerable, so you can't kill him. If no part of him can die, then his hair beard and nails should always keep growing.)

There was one comic where he was affected by Red Kryptonite, which causes unpredictable mutations. This time it caused his hair, bread and nails to sprout wildly. He looked like the super wild man from Borneo. Because his heat vision couldt cut it, he felt it would ruin his secret identity.

Supergirl to the rescue! Actually, Supergirl and his dog, Krypto! They used their combined heat vision which is twice as hot as his, to give him a shave, manicure and haircut.

Prior to the John BUrne revamp, the only time Superman ever needed a shave was when he was under a red sun and lost his powers, then his beard and hair would grow normally.

Like one time he traveled into the far future, when Earth's sun would grow into a red giant start, and then he was stuck because he no longe rhad his powers to get back! He found the ruins of his Fortress in the far north and used one of his trophies to get into space near a yellow sun so he could travel back into the past. (But he had to shave first, because he knew if he waited until later, he couldn't.)

In another early story, Pete Ross' son Jon figured out that Clark Kent was Superman because he used his bathroom and the nosy kid looked inside the medicine cabinet and saw no razor or shaving cream or bandaids or aspirin, nothing that an ordinary man would need. There was just a comb and brush, for when his hair got messed up flying.

Since the Crisis on Infinite Earths, they introduced the idea that he had to shave. (He was no longer invulnerable, he just had an invisible force field.) Then they used a curved piece of reflective metal from his rocket ship and he used his heat vision.

The problem with that is that materials from Krypton are not necessarily indestructible any more! So I don't see why they bothered.

Superman doesn't really need a mirror. His super perception vision powers are more like clarvoyance, and his heat vision is like pyrogenesis. He doesn't actually detect x-rays to see through things or project beams of heat out of his eyeballs. If he can see his reflectionin an ordinary mirror, he can make the heat appear where he wants it, enough to shave with.

I hope this helps.

 

[DavidB1111]

Well, I was mistaken then. I guess it was only Gold/Silver/Bronze.
Thanks John Bryne...for giving me yet another reason to be annoyed at the modern era Superman.

For another reason, look up Action comics 592 and 593. Because yes, I totally believe, Mr. Bryne, that Darkseid is very interested in adult entertainment.

Seriously? A force-field? Oh, I thought that was just a joke! Oh...for the love of General Zod,...I'll be right back, I have to build a time machine...

I'm going to either buy out DC comics, or have John Bryne imprisoned...for Treason. Which ever is more likely. And yes, I know Modern era is post crisis.

 

[al35077]

modern era is post crisis (I think)

 

[AgentPat]

And what is that comic from, AgentPat?

Exile

There's other examples too. Superman, The Last Five Hundred (Man of Steel, Volume III) shows a non depowered Superman and Clark Kent with a pretty thick 5 o'clock shadow. It's about as close to a beard as you can get without actually being a beard. And of course there's the grandaddy of 'em all, Kingdom Come, with not only a bearded, powered Superman, but one with a greying pony tail as well. t:

 

[Gianakin_]

Didn'a a bearded Clark Kent appear in Return of Superman, when he got "rescued" from the rubble created by the battle between Supes/Doomsday? Or was that the alien (who dated Lex as Supergirl) which took Clark's form?

 

[DavidB1111]

Well, I was proven wrong about the beard thing then. Modern Era can grow the beard without needing to be on a red sun.

And Exile? Superman has powers in that one, despite looking like he's spent a thousand years in an insane asylum on the dark side of a planet in a red sun solar system?

I know Exile came about because of Superman not reacting well to killing Zod and his two minions in the pocket universe he was sent into...but still.
I think my only complaint is that because Superman ran into Mongol, and somehow Mongol learned about Earth, from Superman, I think, and invaded, nuking Coast city, killing 9 million people.

So, yeah, because Superman couldn't handle the fact he killed three people, he ended up being responsible for the death of 9 million people?
That should have put him into a coma.
I know that happened before Superman #666, and he still said. "I killed people?" Seriously, why do they keep forgetting the Modern Era Superman was the first one since Golden Age to kill people/things.
And Bronze Age suffocated a plant monster.

And last time I checked, Kingdom Come is an elseworlds, or an alternate take. But I read it and liked it a lot.

They need to bring the Spectre on Smallville. They already showed his picture.

 

[LaraLane]

There was a JL (possibly the unlimited version of series) episode where Superman is in a desert, grows a beard and has to fight off wolves or something. Anyone remember the episode name?

 

[Donut]

There was a JL (possibly the unlimited version of series) episode where Superman is in a desert, grows a beard and has to fight off wolves or something. Anyone remember the episode name?

He had no powers in that episode

 

[SpideyVille]

Death of a Superman?

Isn't that the one where the Toyman zaps him somewhere else and everyone thinks he's death except Batman.

 

[Sawyer]

Hereafter

 

[SpideyVille]

Hereafter

There ya go

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

My point was that they won't need to do that with Tom, who I believe, is far beefier now than Brandon ever was.

Routh was definitely leaner during SR filming in 04/05, but he came close to ripping the seams on the suit.

Brandon Routh today, however, would rip that suit to shreds.

Check out the video:

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/ent...ry-elizabeth-winstead-visit-fox-2-20100805-mr


He's got Welling's build. Possibly bigger. The Hollywood roid machine works.

 

[triplet]

Routh was definitely leaner during SR filming in 04/05, but he came close to ripping the seams on the suit.

Brandon Routh today, however, would rip that suit to shreds.

Check out the video:

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/ent...ry-elizabeth-winstead-visit-fox-2-20100805-mr


He's got Welling's build. Possibly bigger. The Hollywood roid machine works.

Thanks for the link, I guess.

But I don't think I'm going to go outta my way to see that.

Really, the last thing I want to see is a roided-out BR.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Well, point is the SR suit/muscle suit wouldn't fit either of them.

Welling would need a NEW suit tailored for him if he intends on actually wearing the tights.

We'll know in a few months.

 

[triplet]

Well, point is the SR suit/muscle suit wouldn't fit either of them.

Welling would need a NEW suit tailored for him if he intends on actually wearing the tights.

We'll know in a few months.

Even if Brandon had been the same size as Tom during the filming of SR, there's no way they'd use the exact same suit that Brandon had worn for Tom Welling.

Tom's proportions are far different than Brandon's, even if they were the same height and weight. Adding muscle mass isn't going to give Brandon stockier bones and bigger hands.

The same suit wouldn't fit Tom in any way.

But, if even if it would have fit, it's impossible to think that they'd take a 6 year old costume that is probably now thread bare and tired looking.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

It's a prop. A completely unaltered prop.

It was taken from the Warners Museum, confirmed by Peterson as one of Brandon's suits, but it's just a prop on the show.

We'll know if they're actually going to design a NEW suit for Tom to wear in the finale in a few months, or whether any finale footage of Superman on Smallville will involve CGI instead.

Could go either way.

 

[triplet]

It's a prop. A completely unaltered prop.

It was taken from the Warners Museum, confirmed by Peterson as one of Brandon's suits, but it's just a prop on the show.

We'll know if they're actually going to design a NEW suit for Tom to wear in the finale in a few months, or whether any finale footage of Superman on Smallville will involve CGI instead.

Could go either way.

I know it was a prop, and it'll take a lot of time and fittings for Tom to be fit for the suit.

Skin tight ain't easy to do.

I worked on some skin-tight costumes once when I was working in a costume shop and I think they had three or four fittings and it took a couple of weeks.

And it wasn't anything like this level of important that it look good.

They will measure every inch of Tom's body and he will be in for a lot of fittings.

Then once they get something close, they'll probably do some costume tests on camera to see how the suit fares under the lights. Then again they'll likely make more changes and then get Tom in for more fittings until they get things just right...

(I wish I had a job in the Smallville costume shop this season)




We probably won't get a good look until the day that final episode airs.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Not to sound as redundant as Webhead, but we'll see if he actually wears Superman tights in the finale.


We should know in a few months whether they're actually making a new Superman suit behind the scenes. The ones in SR cost as much as a new Ferrari, a piece.

If it is revealed they're making a new one, then we'll know for sure he'll be wearing it.

 

[DavidB1111]

My question is why does everyone think they'll wait until the very end to have him wear the suit? That would be a big waste of time if he's only going to wear the suit at the very end.

Especially if we have to wait for awhile to see him fly.
It doesn't make sense, and it pretty much is a bad idea.

They should treat the fans by giving them what they want. Him in the suit, before the end of the show.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

If they wanted to do that, they wouldn't be introducing a NEW Red/Blue Blur 'suit' in "Shield"

Which has already been confirmed to be a new T-shirt with colors this time...

 

[DavidB1111]

Ugh. So, we really will have to wait until the end? Are they ******ed?

They really want to drag it out the entire time? Even though Lois sees the suit in the first episode? Even though all that? They're just going to drag it out and out?

I just...I thought this show learned from their mistakes...
When I can run a TV show better the current producers...there's something seriously wrong!
Well, as Jason Lee said in Dogma, "I'm going to have to summon the Golgotha demon."

 

[elgaz]

I know Tom's in pretty good shape generally, but do you think they'll ask him to buff up a bit before wearing the suit? It's one thing looking good in a suit or jeans/t-shirt like he normally wears, but it's a totally different matter in a skintight costume.

He's a little less muscular now than he was a couple of seasons ago - there was one stage where he looked very big.