Tonight, We Are Going to Hijack The Wrestling Thread!!! - - Part 149

[Donnie Darko]

Possibly my biggest issue with a lot of the current booking for WM is that it has so many people saying "then at the rematch at Extreme Rules..." WM should NOT be setting up matches for Extreme Rules. This is the big show, the main event of the year. Everything should be leading here. It should resolve story lines, and occasionally start one (like a tag team breaks up), but it should NEVER just be a stepping stone, which is why I hate the idea of someone winning at WM, then someone "getting his win back" at ER so much.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Remember when WM used to be the Season Finale for the WWE?

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

Sorry but if you think the authority won't be back to they're wishy washy tweener ways next week then you're deluding yourself. HHH never wants to go full on heel again as he feels it will taint his "legacy"

I agree that the booking worked last night to further the story but the finale outcome of this story is obvious and doss not work in the long run.

I've said it many times, hhh goes over Bryan, Batista beats or ton and the authority angle continues where they move to the only man wwe sees a true story point.......cena

 

[TX85]

I might be meeting Rob Van Dam again tonight. Anything you guys want to ask him? Serious questions only please.

Please ask him what his top favorite feud and matches were during his run in the Ruhless Aggression era

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

I will not be satisfied until I see Bryan, Punk and Ziggler beat down Triple H while Edge and Jericho shoot on him and Booker T and RVD come to the ring and get some shots in too. Have Steph take a knee to the face, too lol

I'm afraid I've got done bad news...

 

[Warhammer]

I may be wrong but I get the feeling that many people think the whole product sucks and that Mania will be the worst WM ppv all just because of the disappointment with how Daniel has been handled.

-Batista vs Orton shouldn't be headlining any WM for the wwe title but the match itself could be decent,their matches has never been the worst.

-The ending result of Daniel Bryan vs Triple H is a separate issue and yes Daniel should be in the title match but the match itself should be damn good

-Care about Brock vs Taker or not we all know Taker tries his best at Mania and there's a good chance Brock will care more here than WM XX or vs Trips

-Bray Wyatt vs John Cena could be a decent match

-Dean Ambrose vs Roman Reigns vs Seth Rollins in a triple threat is very likely now and there's a strong chance it will be MOTN or even MOTY so far

-The Tag Titles Championship can go in different potential ways depending on the match they go with but it would be awesome if Usos retain as they should

Cesaro vs Swagger could be good but I think it'll be Big E vs Cesaro for the IC title again and that would be even better,Cesaro winning the title would be a big bonus

So yeah that card makes me scratch my head on how Mania XXX as a whole ppv will be the worst one in history or how the company as a whole completely sucks right now,They handle some things good but they are evil as a whole cause of Daniel being pushed down?

People like Ziggler are being held down too but at least he gets to be performing with the main roster on Raw and Smackdown,Him being mostly on NXT/Main Event or Superstars would be a way bigger shame

It's the trickle down effect, baby. If you watch a film and it's good 3/4ths only for the last 30 minutes to be absolute trash, it makes the whole film falter.

Possibly my biggest issue with a lot of the current booking for WM is that it has so many people saying "then at the rematch at Extreme Rules..." WM should NOT be setting up matches for Extreme Rules. This is the big show, the main event of the year. Everything should be leading here. It should resolve story lines, and occasionally start one (like a tag team breaks up), but it should NEVER just be a stepping stone, which is why I hate the idea of someone winning at WM, then someone "getting his win back" at ER so much.

Yes.

After Wrestlemania, the wrestling season is supposed to start fresh. The next RAW is essentially a season premiere. There are some residual effects of the big show, but the Wrestlemania main event should never be a stepping stone to the next PPV.

 

[TX85]

Not just should there be a stip where IF D-Bry beats Triple H he gets added to the title match But also a stip that ends The Authority,Trips&Stephanie should leave their TV roles and only appear occasionally while Maddox or someone else becomes GM and the only authority figure most of thee time,Kane should go back as a full time wrestler and IF he wants to be part time or semi retires then have him manage someone like Solomon Crowe on NXT

 

[sweetre15]

Source: PWInsider Elite

CM Punk was not at last night's RAW and was not in the script that they went to air with. One person in WWE creative said on Friday that Punk wasn't even discussed but didn't rule out a surprise return. Most people within WWE didn't know Punk would not be appearing for sure until Monday afternoon.

There was never a script written that included Punk in any way, beyond the few mentions that were made. There were going to be other mentions, by who we don't know, but those were nixed from the script.

Last night's RAW opened the way it did because WWE officials felt that if they ignored the Punk situation, the chants would become more powerful as the show went on. The feeling was that if they addressed it at the start of the show, the crowd would settle down some.


Read more at http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news...ned-raw-with-paul-heyman/#eGYxfgpZFkSjMYVE.99

 

[TX85]

Besides the authority what else is being a stepping stone or continuation?,Maybe Shield but there break up will officially start at Mania since it'd be their first match against each other and not all three may continue fighting for a long time

 

[sweetre15]

- The Undertaker was not at last night’s RAW in Chicago as he was at home. WWE was still advertising Taker to appear as of the weekend so it must have been a last minute change. There was a version of the RAW script that had a staredown between Taker and Brock Lesnar.

WWE Divas Champion AJ Lee was at RAW but obviously not used. No official word yet on why she didn’t work but it could have been because WWE was trying to keep the chants down for her boyfriend CM Punk.

Source: PWInsider

 

[Warhammer]

EDIT: nevermind. I thought you were asking a different question.

 

[X Knight]

So Punk did not come back. To be honest, a part of me thought that all this was a work the whole time, but the man has quit for real, apparently. I dunno... good for him, I guess, but pity that we won't see him wrestle again (not anytime soon anyways).

The Shield finally cracked, though from a direction I didn't think it would. Roman and Dean made it seem so obvious that their problems were going to be the reason for the group's fall that nobody really noticed Rollins. It's actually a pretty cool development of the story, to have him walk out on his friends. And I liked that Roman and Dean actually put up a decent team effort, but they were - of course - outmatched. I guess that makes it clear - the Shield is falling apart, and it's going to be every man for himself. I only hope that when it's done and the dust has settled, that all three guys look good and retain in singles competition those qualities that made them such a badass team.

Daniel Bryan... I'm going to be perfectly honest, though I don't know if anyone would share my opinion... Honestly, I'm starting to get a bit sick of the crowd pandering. Every week it's the same "Listen to the people!", "Give the people what they want!" etc. It's repetitive and it makes him sound like he's whining.
In all honesty, I know how good that guy is, I've watched him before he even went in WWE, I like him... but in that segment I actually caught myself wanting someone to slap his mouth shut whenever he spoke. They are writing him awfully of late. It's not only the constant losing, it's his pandering attitude that makes him seem like a desperate B+ player instead of what he should be - a righteously pissed-off A player. The creative team should really get their **** together.

and that's one by product of dragging this on for so long.

things become repetitive. whether it's Bryan "pandering" to the crowd or getting beat down by the authority.

 

[OctaviusINC]

And as for the hijack, for a town like Chicago that was pathetic. If your going to make such a big show about doing something then you damn sure make it all out. The chants were weak as hell and not announce of creativity,

You have to understand not everyone goes to wrestling shows to be a smarky *****enozzle. That whole #HijackRaw BS was a twitter thing followed by a bunch of internet wrestling fans. Chicago cheered soley for CM Punk because it's his hometown and he's been Benioted ever since he "went home".

Nobody's going to jump the barricade, attack talent, and storm the castle. Hell why would you even want that? That wouldn't solve anything. It's entertainment. A minority of smarks chanting things on RAW aren't going to really change anything.

Except "Fandangoing". And, you know, that's gone so well for him.

 

[Dr. Evil]

What makes people think Bryan will beat Triple H.

 

[Warhammer]

That dude gets his ass beaten at least twice a month.

 

[TX85]

What makes people think Bryan will beat Triple H.

What makes you so certain he won't?,Depite being Trips there is always a chance either way

 

[Dr. Evil]

What makes you so certain he won't?,Depite being Trips there is always a chance either way

I hope Bryan will beat Triple H.

However, Triple H's history and his stubborness proves otherwise.

 

[BatLobster]

I still feel like Bryan has to end up in the title match. Having two heels go head to head in the title match in front of 70,000 bored fans just goes against every common sense rule of booking. And last night they even made them cozy up to each other a bit. There's no heat there.

If there's no stipulation on the Trips match, it all just feels hollow.

There's just no reason I can fathom them not finding a way to get Bryan into the main event besides just plain stubbornness and intentionally wanting to stick it to the IWC.

 

[Donnie Darko]

Besides the authority what else is being a stepping stone or continuation?,Maybe Shield but there break up will officially start at Mania since it'd be their first match against each other and not all three may continue fighting for a long time

One of the main ones I keep hearing places is Cena-Wyatt, basically saying whoever wins this on loses at ER. This one in particular is a victim of rushed booking (which is also one if the reasons I say there is no need for a ppv between RR and WM). Basically, it's the same situation as HHH-Lesnar last year. They should have just had Lesnar win and call it a day for that feud.

For the Shield, they should either not officially break up until WM (which would then launch their storyline after WM), or they should be kept apart (at least for a while) after their blow-off match at WM.

 

[Rincewind]

What makes people think Bryan will beat Triple H.

Because it's the logical outcome from a storyline pov. The hero defeats the villain at the end, when it counts. Basic storytelling. The way this whole thing has been told since summer, the only logical conclusion is that Bryan defeats the Authority i.e. Triple H.

It's another question if Triple H will agree to take the loss, or if the creative will continue to write Bryan's character as incapable and desperate.

 

[Warhammer]

I still feel like Bryan has to end up in the title match. Having two heels go head to head in the title match in front of 70,000 bored fans just goes against every common sense rule of booking. And last night they even made them cozy up to each other a bit. There's no heat there.

If there's no stipulation on the Trips match, it all just feels hollow.

There's just no reason I can fathom them not finding a way to get Bryan into the main event besides just plain stubbornness and intentionally wanting to stick it to the IWC.

Honestly, that is what they are doing and it's as plain as day. Deep down, I am sure that Bryan will be apart of the title match. Of course, that was not the plan from day one. That is merely because Batista's return crashed and burned. This is why they are dragging this out as long as they can. It's so management can stick it to the IWC. All this b****ing and moaning that we do is all part of the plan. We all know they won't really do a heel vs heel title match. Bryan WILL beat Haitch and be added to the title match. At the end of the day, we all know it.

Whether he wins at Mania instead of the inevitable Extreme Rules rematch, I have no idea.

 

[sweetre15]

The amusing thing is though is the despite all the BS Bryan has been put through, They've still booked him as someone whom is better than most of the roster in the Ring

Beat Cena clean, Orton can't beat him without cheating, Batista can't beat him, Bray Wyatt beat him but they were pushing that "concussion" stuff with Bryan during the match, Roman Reigns is always one step behind Bryan despite his feats against other superstars etc.

This doesn't mean that he'll beat Trips at Mania but it is still worth noting that it's implied that Bryan can beat most people on the roster if given the chance to do it cleanly. Has anyone noticed that?

 

[BatLobster]

Honestly, that is what they are doing and it's as plain as day. Deep down, I am sure that Bryan will be apart of the title match. Of course, that was not the plan from day one. That is merely because Batista's return crashed and burned. This is why they are dragging this out as long as they can. It's so management can stick it to the IWC. All this b****ing and moaning that we do is all part of the plan. We all know they won't really do a heel vs heel title match. Bryan WILL beat Haitch and be added to the title match. At the end of the day, we all know it.

Whether he wins at Mania instead of the inevitable Extreme Rules rematch, I have no idea.

Honestly, I hope you're right...there have just been many times before where I've believed that they were going to make the right call in the end and then simply didn't. Been burned too many times at this point.

And I have to agree with some of the sentiments here...booking WM as a lead-in to Extreme rules just seems kind of backwards. Wrestlemania used to be mean something. Sure, if Bryan is champ by ER then great, but denying him a true WM glory moment still rubs me the wrong way and sends a mixed message IMO.

I do think they're gonna string this out as long as possible and probably even head into Mania with us all still speculating as to whether Bryan will get into the title match. Here's hoping they're actually a step ahead of us for a change.

 

[Warhammer]

Honestly, I hope you're right...there have just been many times before where I've believed that they were going to make the right call in the end and then simply didn't. Been burned too many times at this point.

And I have to agree with some of the sentiments here...booking WM as a lead-in to Extreme rules just seems kind of backwards. Wrestlemania used to be mean something. Sure, if Bryan is champ by ER then great, but denying him a true WM glory moment still rubs me the wrong way and sends a mixed message IMO.

I do think they're gonna string this out as long as possible and probably even head into Mania with us all still speculating as to whether Bryan will get into the title match. Here's hoping they're actually a step ahead of us for a change.

Exactly. Besides, how many people won the title at Wrestlemania only to lose it at Backlash or whatever the next upcoming PPV was?

 

[Wheels]

Batista vs Orton will most likely be garbage I mean Dave hasn't had a good match since he came back. His heel promos work very well but he looks terrible in the ring. WWE are not even trying to build Batista vs Orton so maybe they have other plans.