The Amazing Spider-Man Too Soon!?

[DACMAN]

It seems like everyone here loves movies about Spidey. But not everyone loves the idea of a reboot mostly because some feel it is too soon. I think they are dead wrong. Even more so if you look at the other reboots and how long they had in between films.


Star Trek-7 years
Batman-8 years
HULK-5 years
James Bond-4 years!!!!!!!!!!!! Die Another Day (2002) Casino Royale (2006)
Spider-Man-5 years


Spider-Man seems to fit just fine in there. In fact, as a Spidey fan I say the film can't come fast enough. Not to mention Raimi really painted himself into a corner story wise with killing off every villain and making a train wreck of Peter and MJ's relationship by the end of Spider-Man 3. But any way, do you think it is too soon?

 

[Deaths Head II]

Raimi didn't paint himself into a corner at all. Peter and MJ trying to repair their relationship would have made for an interesting story. And Raimi may have killed all the villains up until that point (save for Sandman), but there are still plenty of villains from the comics that would have been interesting to see on screen. The Lizard being the biggest one, but I could easily imagine an awesome film centered around someone like Mysterio.

As for your list, Star Trek and James Bond didn't start 10 years ago. A reboot for those franchises is a big deal because they went decades on the same continuity. Spider-Man went 3 films before a reboot. With Star Trek and James Bond it doesn't matter how long the last movie came out, it matters that they restarted a long lasting series. With Spider-Man that's not the case at all. That's why it feels like "A reboot already?"

Hulk is also a bad example because I don't think it worked for that film at all. Soooo many of the people I know still remembered the original film. Some thought the new one was a sequel while others just thought "I already saw a Hulk movie in theaters and it sucked." The memories of the first film were fresh in everyone's mind and I'm pretty sure that was a factor in it's lackluster box office.

 

[DACMAN]

Those are all very good points actually. So let's hope people didn't hate Spider-Man 3 enough not to come see this new Spidey movie.

 

[Doc Ock]

Yes, I think a reboot is way too soon, I can't stress the way enough! Raimi's films were very successful, so it would make sense to continue that series. Its not like it failed like Ang Lee's Hulk, which I thought was ok but cannot deny it failed in the Box Office(I think). 2012 will mark 10 years since the first film, a reboot should happen 5-10, 15,20, or even 30 years from now! (in my opinion) I think things would of been better with a Spidey 4 and maybe 5 and 6 then a reboot down the line.

 

[SpeterMan3]

I know a lot of people who liked Spider-Man 3. Even if some thought it was bad (comic-wise) they still liked it in itself. I think the fact that it is a reboot may turn some people off, because it is just too soon.

 

[Avengers-Report]

The difference is the reboot is planned now, which is going to be 2 years, not 5 years. I know the gap might be 5 years, but the actual time spent on the reboot is much different.

 

[SpeterMan3]

Especially since we were waiting for almost three years for 4 to start and expecting just about another year or so.

 

[Avengers-Report]

Exactly, and the plans for the reboot just sound awful. Combine that with the short time and the answer is yes, I am very worried.

 

[chaseter]

It seems like everyone here loves movies about Spidey. But not everyone loves the idea of a reboot mostly because some feel it is too soon. I think they are dead wrong. Even more so if you look at the other reboots and how long they had in between films.


Star Trek-7 years
Batman-8 years
HULK-5 years
James Bond-4 years!!!!!!!!!!!! Die Another Day (2002) Casino Royale (2006)
Spider-Man-5 years


Spider-Man seems to fit just fine in there. In fact, as a Spidey fan I say the film can't come fast enough. Not to mention Raimi really painted himself into a corner story wise with killing off every villain and making a train wreck of Peter and MJ's relationship by the end of Spider-Man 3. But any way, do you think it is too soon?

WTF? He killed 3 1/2 villains. I forgot Spider-Man only had 5 or so villains There were still a good 5 or so villains that he could have used from Spidey's rogues gallery. Do you even read some of the stuff you post?

 

[Ajendo]

Personally, I'm just not a big fan of Raimi's vision. I understand and appreciate that the films were successful but the film's vision and story handeling were an enormous dissapointment for me. I'm looking foward to the reboot and this new direction we're being steered in and hope we get a more enjoyable and exciting series of movies.

 

[El Payaso]

It sounds certainly too soon. But after the first three I'm more than prepared to watch something different. I just hope it's better than the originals (at least 1 and 3).

 

[sauronthegreat]

Maybe there are a lot of villains left, but Raimi used the biggest three and killed them off.
I am not saying that they weren't done right, but they were done and served their purpose in the franchise. But it's undeniable that Ock's character was changed. In way film Octopus was a hybrid of Ock, Lizard and Scorpion in my opinion. And after him it would be a risk to use the Lizard or the Scorpion only after one sequel, without changing their characters as well. In a way Ock's arc resembled the Lizard's and the fights he had with Spidey (on the side of the buildings) was action I would have expected more from the Scorpion than Ock, but it was masterfully done.
As only villain interesting and unique, who could hold a film in my opinion, would have been Mysterio.
Or if Raimi went in direction to use his idea he had for SM3 in part 4, and use the Vulture and instead Sandman use Electro. Vulture as a puppeteer controlling the more powerful and unstable villain. That would have been cool to see.

As for the reboot, I don't think it's too soon. The trilogy is done and it will always be there and respected by a lot of people. And it's time to restart the franchise, with a lot of new energy and creative ideas. Put a solid foundation for the future installments.

 

[spidey-dude]

too late imo - spidey 1 and 2 were good films but I could never stand tobey mguire as peter parker, peter parker was a bit of a nerd yeah but tobey played him as an absolute gimp! he wasnt portrayed as the everyman that peter has for the last 40 years but a total loser I couldnt connect on any level with the peter parker portrayed in raimis films and I cant wait for this reboot

 

[©KAW]

It wasn't soon enough, I would have rebooted after the first film. They're weak renditions of Spider-Man. No matter how much Sam Raimi expressed his love for Spider-Man, his movies seem as though he knew little to nothing about the character.

 

[DACMAN]

Don't you remeber he had Spider-Man painted on his bed room wall when he was a kid.



I don't think he ever read the comics or anything. I know Maguire said he did.

 

[DACMAN]

WTF? He killed 3 1/2 villains. I forgot Spider-Man only had 5 or so villains There were still a good 5 or so villains that he could have used from Spidey's rogues gallery. Do you even read some of the stuff you post?

First off, there's no reason to be a jerk. Second, he killed 4/5. And finally, I could not be happier they threw Raimi's Spider-Man 4 out the window after it came out that we WOULD be getting the Vulturess. Raimi was way to quick to throw the original material out the window and way to quick to make up his own crap. Once he made Sandman Uncle Ben's killer I was so done with him. When anyone thinks they shouldn't have reboot it, you need to say to them is "Vulturess" and that should be the end of the discussion.

And as far as when it comes out, I think anyone who doesn't want a Spidey movie as soon as possible isn't a real Spidey fan. Someone actually said up top maybe it needs another 30 years. WHATEVER! You people actually want to be 30 years older before you can go see another Spidey film! That's not a true Spidey fan. Period.

 

[Dangerous]

The reboot is the best idea since Stan Lee had the idea for the character back in '62.

I just hope to hell it ain't based on Bendis' god awful USM comic.

 

[DACMAN]

They already said it is. We normally agree on everything, but I gotta disagree with you on this one. I thought Ultimate Spider-Man 1-133 and Ultimate Spider-Man Requiem were amazing through and through. In fact I think the best moment in any comic book I ever read took place in Ultimate Spider-Man Requiem when JJJ finally sees Spider-Man is a true hero. It was powerful stuff.

Well either that or when Peter unmased in Civil War.

 

[Dangerous]

Heh, yea you love USM and I hate it.
That's about the only thing we disagree on.

I know USM must have had some good elements, heh, but I'd prefer the new film to take the best elements from everything; - all the different comics instead of just one, TV shows, videogames etc, rather than limit itself to a single interpretation of Spidey. Somebody else's interpretation at that.

BTW- can you provide a link to an official confirmation from Sony or Marvel that SM2012 will be based on USM?
I thought it was only rumor at this stage?

Even if it is based on USM, I'm thinking (hoping) it can't be any worse than the Raimi films, and it would also theoretically mean Marvel is one step closer to getting the rights back and making 'The Amazing Spider-Man' movie.

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[Eggyman]

The way I see it, it'll depend on how much people have enjoyed the previous films. Let me put it this way, normally when I break up with a girl I try to leave it 6 months before getting attatched again... but once I went out with this girl who was absolutely useless and a horrible girlfriend. When I broke up with her I wanted a new girlfriend straight away because I felt I hadn't had one. Or one that wasn't worth mentioning.

 

[Dangerous]

I've had a few of those heheh.

 

[Dragon]

Maybe there are a lot of villains left, but Raimi used the biggest three and killed them off.

You guys seems to forget that Marvel killed them off long before Raimi did.

 

[FaT_tONle]

This sets a bad precedent when it's done this soon. BB set the precedent but it was a full 8 years and people had waited patiently. Punisher and Hulk continued in the same vain but failed critically in some aspects and financially in almost every aspect. Spiderman will obviously be a lot more successful by name alone, but it could continue a bad precedent for CB films. Does this allow Fox to launch hap-assed DD and FF reboots within 3 years just to meet a deadline? That's what Sony is doing here, scrambling to meet the deadline and make the most money. Creativity and artistic drive will be compromised for that reason alone.

And as far as when it comes out, I think anyone who doesn't want a Spidey movie as soon as possible isn't a real Spidey fan. Someone actually said up top maybe it needs another 30 years. WHATEVER! You people actually want to be 30 years older before you can go see another Spidey film! That's not a true Spidey fan. Period.

... what a bone head statement...

 

[TheSlag]

This sets a bad precedent when it's done this soon. BB set the precedent but it was a full 8 years and people had waited patiently. Punisher and Hulk continued in the same vain but failed critically in some aspects and financially in almost every aspect. Spiderman will obviously be a lot more successful by name alone, but it could continue a bad precedent for CB films. Does this allow Fox to launch hap-assed DD and FF reboots within 3 years just to meet a deadline? That's what Sony is doing here, scrambling to meet the deadline and make the most money. Creativity and artistic drive will be compromised for that reason alone.

God I hope so.

F4 and DD both deserve sooo much better than what they got. Especially F4.

If anything, it has been too long for a reboot in BOTH those franchises.

And Rebooting SM in 2012 gives them more than enough time to do it right.

 

[Doc Ock]

WHATEVER! You people actually want to be 30 years older before you can go see another Spidey film! That's not a true Spidey fan. Period.

Now that isn't very nice! There is no such thing as a true fan of ANYTHING. What the heck would you define as a "true" Spidey fan?!