Toronto trustees vote in favour of Afrocentric school

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  1. Bubonic Registered

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    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=272389

    Figure it's for the better?

    To me I see problems and benefits.
    The problem I see is this will encourage the current school systems to continue being Eurocentric in their teachings.
    As is mentioned in the article I also see this a furthering the divide between the "races", and lead to more segregation, China centric schools etcetera.

    Then again it doesn't seem like white school systems were doing much to help make a more integrative education, and many felt that they'd given up on the minority students.

    Maybe if these kids grow up learning in these positive settings that promotes a positive sense of self and culture they will be the better for it.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Ghostvirus Registered

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    I don't want to sound insensitive, but if you can't make it in school, then you fail. There shouldn't be a school made for you just because you can't make it. Sink or swim, simple as that.
     
  3. redmarvel Red, White and Buxom

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    I live in Toronto and while I understand why they are doing this, I don't agree with it. Rather than create schools specifically based on race / creed / colour they need to make sure the students of any race / creed / colour are comfortable in any school they go to. If they want to focus on Black History, do it in February, Black History month, then add a month for each of the other typical genres found in Canada: European History month, Asian History month and so on.

    What they really need to do is get the Guidance Counselors more involved with the students. Stuffing someone in a little room and having students visit this person once a year to take a test and be told what to do with their lives based on their answers is not counselling. Instead, as soon as a student gets a C or less on a test they should see the counselor on a regular basis (either during their lunch break, during a spare period or after hours) and get tutoring on the subject they're having difficulty with. Hopefully in some fun way, making a game of learning.
     
  4. November Rain Single Mother

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    Simple answer...

    If you want a 'black' child to suceed in school, educate them initially in africa and then bring them to the west for high school education

    It's not the schools, rather the western portrayal of work ethics with regards to minorities.

    Infact, I would say this about kids from any race, instilling an early work ethic is the key and the west doesn't have it as much as countries in africa and asia.
     
  5. Docker2.0 Watchin' you!

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    Wow! that is so politically incorrect for you to say somethign like that! I'm disappointed in you!! You disgust me!! :cmad: Get the hell out of this thread!













    I agree 10000% :woot:
     
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    What. the. **** is this crap about Black kids failing because Oh, our schools are so "Eurocentric"?
    WTF?
    Black kids here are born here, after generations of living here.
    There is nothing "African" about them.
    There is nothing "Euro" about me.

    Racism's bad?, mmkay?, but let's not act like morons trying to cover up for supid, lazy and economically disadvantaged Back kids. :whatever:


    So, I guess the Black kids couldn't make it in the White dominated schools, and if a White kid goes to this^ school, he'll fail as well, right?


    God. :whatever:

    Does anyone know what 24 X 12 is....I mean, in Afrocentric?
     
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    **** segregation. This can only be bad for society.
     
  8. Bubonic Registered

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    I think they feel they'll be able to reach the black kids more in this sort of environment. I don't know how much credence this has.
    But even though the people from current schools are many generations of North American, the history and philosophies that are thought are European.

    So they feel a black kids self-esteem isn't properly nurtured or something... They don't see representations of themselves in the teachings, while whites feel like the norm.

    I just figure trying to incorporate a more multicultural curriculum to existing schools would be better then segregating the kids. But they seem to feel that black kids are failing out because of how the current education system is.

    From what I heard in class there is actually more segregation in American schools now then before the civil rights movement. But thats not really the same thing.
     
  9. Asteroid-Man Registered

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    What will they do next? Send blacks back to the back then have slavery :down: I used to love my country but now they're going backwards... :csad: I'm totally against this school especially after years of trying to abolish segregation.
     
  10. November Rain Single Mother

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    Heh,

    I'm part of such a system and my ethic to work is so much different to most people around me, especially the native darkies in the west.

    If a native darkie doesn't work, they can always fall back on sports or entertainment or something else as a dream. If i don't work, I have to walk home knowing i'm going to get the living **** beaten out of my ass.

    That's africa for you.

    Import some hardcore teachers from africa and asia to the states, In less than a generation you'll see results.

    It's funny because african and asian originating kids have been surpassing western kids for donkey years in primary and secondary education. :o

    3rd world indeed...

    EDIT: Funny story, I had been underachieving in Maths for years in school, just scraping the high grades...

    Then I got my first asian teacher, MADE me do every single example in the text book, EVERY single one, Relentless homework and work regime. Come to the exam....I got 142/150 and he was UPSET i dropped 8 marks.

    That's the sort of teacher mentality that is required.

    The only true people who will suffer is YOu when you lose your job to an foreign person who is capable of doing your job Twice as good for Four times as long with only half your pay...
     
  11. Addendum Registered

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    You're canadian :huh:
     
  12. Asteroid-Man Registered

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    Yep.
     
  13. Badger Side-Kick my Ass!

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    Those crazy Canadians. Seriously, so they are goin to invest all this time and money into figuring out that the students that want to succeed will do so no matter the enviroment. This is just a classier version of "Ebonics". I'd personally be insulted.
     
  14. jaguarr Be Your Own Hero

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    I don't know that going as far as to bring Asian and African teachers in country is the solution, but I do get what November Rain is saying and I agree with it; our kids are being coddled at every turn instead of being given a work ethic and taught how to really push themselves when they need to and this is just another example of coddling kids and ultimately not giving them those tools for the future. It gives the kids in this school the message that the only thing they need to worry about in life is crying foul loud enough and long enough that people will give them what they want rather than knuckling down and working through strife to be successful. At some point, that will be very detrimental to them as an adult, I can only imagine.

    jag
     
  15. Figs Registered

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    So in short their using the excuse that public schools favor whites or even asians or latinos for that matter???


    As someone mentioned above...FAIL!
     
  16. Erzengel |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

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    I've had Asian and Indian professors who I couldn't understand in college.

    But this is afrolicous. :up:
     
  17. jaguarr Be Your Own Hero

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    Yeah, I had an English teacher in college that was Indian and no one in the class could understand a damn word he said because his accent was so thick.

    jag
     
  18. Erzengel |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

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    This reminds me when they wanted ebonics accepted as a form of language in school.

    Idiots.
     
  19. Figs Registered

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    So I'm confused, is the woman above crying because her kid/kids are failures or is she crying out of happiness because she helped lower the standard again via race card??
     
  20. Erzengel |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

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    They need Joe Clark.

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    Eastside.......
     
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    Afrocentrism is a lie.

    I've been to black websites, lots of them for my research, and lots of them all have the same BS list of "black inventions", which credits blacks with the invention of everything from ice cream to cell phones to the helicopter.
     
  23. Erzengel |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

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    How about the roflcopter?

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  24. jaguarr Be Your Own Hero

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    Or the racistcopter?

    jag
     
  25. Ironic_Commando Registered

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    Or the waaaambulance?
     

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