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The Dark Knight Touching homage to BB in TDK

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I don't know if anyone posted this or if someone has, please forgive me.

In Batman Begins directly after the funeral of Bruce Wayne's parents there is a scene between Alfred and Bruce in Wayne Manor.
Bruce is staring out of the window, lost in grief, not uttering a word. Alfred enters the room and says "I thought I might prepare a little supper."

Bruce doesn't say anything and doesn't even acknowledge Alfred's presence.
Sensing this, Alfred then says "Very well", and turns to leave, upon which Bruce says "Alfred"
"Yes Master Bruce?" Replies Alfred and the two proceed to then talk to one another and Alfred helps Bruce with his grief with his care,wisdom
and guidance.

In the Dark Knight, after Rachel's murder we see a scene in Bruce's Penthouse where he is staring out of the windows, not uttering a word, lost in his grief.
Alfred enters carrying a tray, sensing the mood he says: "I thought I might prepare a little breakfast." Bruce doesn't reply to him, and doesn't acknowledge Alfred's presence. Alfred then says: "very well," and turns to walk away upon which Bruce calls out "Alfred" and the two talk once again and Alfred helps Bruce with his grief.

I was touched by this scene in the dark knight as it is a scene that pays homage to the previous film and its shared themes of losing someone you love.
The dialogue and set up of the scene are the same and the way it plays out is very moving.
 
^Yeah this has been mentioned a few times. Music was the exact same as well. Great parallel to the scene in Begins.
 
Yeah, I actually noticed that last night, after watching it for the seventh time. It's the notion of 'recursion' that Nolan likes to play a lot with in his films. Memento. The Prestige. The music was exactly the same as in Begins, everything was the same. Very smart. And cool to see that.
 
A lot of fanboys might complain about little nitpicks in this film. But this film is just beautifully made...there is no arguing that. If you haven't, see it in IMAX. It is worth it.
 
I liked it.

Something similiar happens at the end with Gordon.

Gordon says, "Thank you," Batman responds, "You don't have to thank me." Except this time Gordon responds with, "yes, I do."
 
i like that scene a swell. I do think the blue filter was a little strong, but it doesn't really matter
 
Awww, i didnt notice that until now...that makes the scene even more touching
 
did not notice this, thanks for pointing it out, i'll look forward to thinking about it the next time i watch it.
 
yea i remember realizing that when i saw it and thought it was an interesting parallel
 
They ripped that scene off from that movie Batman Begins.
 
the same thing happens in the end when the joker is falling off the ledge, it's the same track as when batman lets raz die, but this time he saves the joker.
 
the same thing happens in the end when the joker is falling off the ledge, it's the same track as when batman lets raz die, but this time he saves the joker.

My personal favorite homage to Begins.
 
I liked how the scenes with Gordon and his son paralleled that of Thomas Wayne and young Bruce. They used the same bit of music as the flash backs in Begins.
 
But- something you can take with you...thematically between the two scenes is:

In Batman Begins we see young Bruce- after having seemingly lost everything- still has Rachel to hang onto. She looks up, and smiles and waves to him...she's going to be there for him.

In The Dark Knight, there is no one out there in the window. He has no hope- nothing to hang onto. It could also be argued that before it was the hope of his friend that helped him move on- now with only the City before him- maybe that is his sole purpose and he sees that that is what Batman is really all about...protecting his city and not letting it take the people he cares about....with a little help to see that from Alfred of course.

-R
 
I noticed it in my second viewing. Such a moving scene. :up:
 
Personally, I think Alfred had just seen Spider-Man 3, and thought "Can't have that happen to this one."


I kid of course. One of my favs in the movie.:brucebat:

Alfred would never watch that trash...:D
 
Hah...

Alfred > Alfred wannabe with no emotion in Spider-Man 3!
 
I noticed this too. For a while actually. That was pretty cool how he payed homage to Batman Begins with this scene. Really makes you feel bad for Bruce. I really loved how in The Dark Knight and Batman Begins Bruce is just silent and when Alfred says "Very well." he starts to leave then Bruce says "Alfred." asking him to stay. That really makes you feel bad for him of how alone he is...
 
Yeah I noticed it - good eye. Oh, and he doesn't say 'supper', he says 'supPa'.

:)
 

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