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The Dark Knight Touching homage to BB in TDK

I loved all the mentions of BB in TDK in general, very very subtle (like the "Criminals aren't complicated alfred"):cwink::cwink::cwink:
 
Great observation.

I liked how the scenes with Gordon and his son paralleled that of Thomas Wayne and young Bruce. They used the same bit of music as the flash backs in Begins.

Love that scene.

One of my favorites lines inthe whole movie is when Gordan tell his kid that this time he saved Batman.
 
This was one of my favorite scenes... and I picked up on it right away.

It was the music that triggered it in my mind...



Very slowly, Bruce is losing his connection with the world...

Gordan is only Batman's friend and ally

And i feel that it is getting more difficult for Alfred to get through to him.


'Lost inside the monster' indeed!
 
I noticed it the first time I saw the movie and love how well put together the movie is and how much it brought back the feelings from the first.
 
I didn't notice it, cause I saw it in IMAX, My first IMAX, and it was all so overwhelming that I had not have the clarity of mind to connect the dots. IT WAS SO FREAKING AWESOME!!! plus, I only got to see it once.
 
I didn't notice that parallel. Thanks for sharing. That's just one more thing that helps this movie improve with every viewing.
 
What I really enjoy is Nolan's circular script:

Bruce: That bandit in the woods...did you catch him?
Alfred: Yes.
Bruce: How?
Alfred: We burned the forest down.

Not only was this a great metaphor, but Nolan brought back this story from Alfred here and ended it with yet another moral for Bruce Wayne/Batman to learn.

Nolan did similar things in Batman Begins (i.e: Didn't you get the memo?) and in The Prestige, with Cutter's (Caine) story about drowning -- for those who have seen it.
 
But- something you can take with you...thematically between the two scenes is:

In Batman Begins we see young Bruce- after having seemingly lost everything- still has Rachel to hang onto. She looks up, and smiles and waves to him...she's going to be there for him.

In The Dark Knight, there is no one out there in the window. He has no hope- nothing to hang onto. It could also be argued that before it was the hope of his friend that helped him move on- now with only the City before him- maybe that is his sole purpose and he sees that that is what Batman is really all about...protecting his city and not letting it take the people he cares about....with a little help to see that from Alfred of course.

-R
:up:
 
What I really enjoy is Nolan's circular script:

Bruce: That bandit in the woods...did you catch him?
Alfred: Yes.
Bruce: How?
Alfred: We burned the forest down.

Not only was this a great metaphor, but Nolan brought back this story from Alfred here and ended it with yet another moral for Bruce Wayne/Batman to learn.

Nolan did similar things in Batman Begins (i.e: Didn't you get the memo?) and in The Prestige, with Cutter's (Caine) story about drowning -- for those who have seen it.
True, I thought Alfred's story about the bandit was used sweetly and to dope effect. But I thought Begins had almost too many call backs, "didn't you get the memo", "finders keepers", and the stethoscope. But maybe I'm high.
 
Speaking of BB and TDK, I thought the fight scenes were so much better handled this time around. I think Nolan has really improved as an action director.
 
Wow, I didn't even realize that. But then again, it's been awhile since I've watched BB.
 
I also like how Gordon and Batman's dialogue mirrors each other in both endings.

Batman Begins:

Gordon: I never said thank you.
Batman: And you'll never have to.

The Dark Knight:

Gordon: Thank you.
Batman: You don't have to thank me.
 
Personally, I think Alfred had just seen Spider-Man 3, and thought "Can't have that happen to this one."


I kid of course. One of my favs in the movie.:brucebat:
HAHAHA...if Alfred had pulled that **** like Bernard did in SM3...I would have said "F-k it...I'm out."
 
I don't know if anyone posted this or if someone has, please forgive me.

In Batman Begins directly after the funeral of Bruce Wayne's parents there is a scene between Alfred and Bruce in Wayne Manor.
Bruce is staring out of the window, lost in grief, not uttering a word. Alfred enters the room and says "I thought I might prepare a little supper."

Bruce doesn't say anything and doesn't even acknowledge Alfred's presence.
Sensing this, Alfred then says "Very well", and turns to leave, upon which Bruce says "Alfred"
"Yes Master Bruce?" Replies Alfred and the two proceed to then talk to one another and Alfred helps Bruce with his grief with his care,wisdom
and guidance.

In the Dark Knight, after Rachel's murder we see a scene in Bruce's Penthouse where he is staring out of the windows, not uttering a word, lost in his grief.
Alfred enters carrying a tray, sensing the mood he says: "I thought I might prepare a little breakfast." Bruce doesn't reply to him, and doesn't acknowledge Alfred's presence. Alfred then says: "very well," and turns to walk away upon which Bruce calls out "Alfred" and the two talk once again and Alfred helps Bruce with his grief.

I was touched by this scene in the dark knight as it is a scene that pays homage to the previous film and its shared themes of losing someone you love.
The dialogue and set up of the scene are the same and the way it plays out is very moving.
hmm, good point, i didnt pick up on this other than the fact that it felt familiar.



I liked it.

Something similiar happens at the end with Gordon.

Gordon says, "Thank you," Batman responds, "You don't have to thank me." Except this time Gordon responds with, "yes, I do."
this one i picked up on.


Personally, I think Alfred had just seen Spider-Man 3, and thought "Can't have that happen to this one."
this just made me LOL :D
 
I don't know if anyone posted this or if someone has, please forgive me.

In Batman Begins directly after the funeral of Bruce Wayne's parents there is a scene between Alfred and Bruce in Wayne Manor.
Bruce is staring out of the window, lost in grief, not uttering a word. Alfred enters the room and says "I thought I might prepare a little supper."

Bruce doesn't say anything and doesn't even acknowledge Alfred's presence.
Sensing this, Alfred then says "Very well", and turns to leave, upon which Bruce says "Alfred"
"Yes Master Bruce?" Replies Alfred and the two proceed to then talk to one another and Alfred helps Bruce with his grief with his care,wisdom
and guidance.

In the Dark Knight, after Rachel's murder we see a scene in Bruce's Penthouse where he is staring out of the windows, not uttering a word, lost in his grief.
Alfred enters carrying a tray, sensing the mood he says: "I thought I might prepare a little breakfast." Bruce doesn't reply to him, and doesn't acknowledge Alfred's presence. Alfred then says: "very well," and turns to walk away upon which Bruce calls out "Alfred" and the two talk once again and Alfred helps Bruce with his grief.

I was touched by this scene in the dark knight as it is a scene that pays homage to the previous film and its shared themes of losing someone you love.
The dialogue and set up of the scene are the same and the way it plays out is very moving.



When i was in the cinema and i watched the scene i completely loved it, when i got home i put Batman Begins on and looked if there was anymore and i did find the one that cuppajoe07 found


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Originally Posted by CuppaJoe07
I also like how Gordon and Batman's dialogue mirrors each other in both endings.

Batman Begins:

Gordon: I never said thank you.
Batman: And you'll never have to.

The Dark Knight:

Gordon: Thank you.
Batman: You don't have to thank me.



I love the little parallels from TDK to BB
 
I also like how Gordon and Batman's dialogue mirrors each other in both endings.

Batman Begins:

Gordon: I never said thank you.
Batman: And you'll never have to.

The Dark Knight:

Gordon: Thank you.
Batman: You don't have to thank me.
Yeah, I enjoyed this role reversal myself. Then again, anytime Batman and Gordon talk it's always going to be good. :up:
 
yeah i noticed that too.. first time i saw it i thought "that line seems familiar" lol
 
lol Yeah. Unfortunately, I'm such a nerd I have BB memorized so...I knew it right away.
 

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