UFC and MMA are fads that will fade like acid wash jeans!

[Paroxysm]

Fight!

U mad bro?

 

[chaseter]

My point still remains. It's your opinion. Either you like it or don't. It's legal and regulated. If you don't like it, don't criticize others who do.

It is my opinion yes but me saying it's a barbaric sport and that I don't understand the legality behind it or why people love to watch it is criticizing people who like it? It only started to get funny in here when some people minimized their Tapout ordering screen to bro rage. All sports have a legion of crazy fans. It's koo. I have said the end in here like twice but people keep replying. I don't understand how competitive eating is a televised sport or why the **** anybody would do that so if you love competitive eating don't send me decapitated hot dogs in the mail. We all don't understand every single sport in the world and we all think some sports are completely pointless or dumb. It's the very nature of having an opinion but I am sure you understand that so I apologize for belaboring the point.

U mad bro?

Mad enough to fight to defend thine honor? Nah. We can duke it out in Halo or Red Dead if you want. I am not very good at either so I require a 1 minute head start.

 

[Paroxysm]

Why can't you just be a man and accept the fact that people enjoy watching something that makes you sick to the stomach? Why walk the path of the sad troll?

There's no honor in trolling.

 

[El Bastardo]

Thinking a sport is stupid, or not understanding the point of a sport, is not the same as terming a sport barbaric, especially since "barbaric" as a descriptor has plagued that sport in the past, and might continue to.

If you think a sport is pointless, then educate yourself. Education is the inverse of ignorance, no?

No one says you have to like MMA. Are some people turned off by aspects of MMA? Sure. Some by the violence. Some by the sight of blood. Does that make them not like it? Sure, that might be the case. And I've met lots of people who don't like watching MMA who don't think it or refer to it as barbaric, and who can, at the base level, appreciate the athleticism and/or skill it takes to compete in the sport.

That it is a sport and driven by competition and, yes, honor and appreciation - and yes, that applies even to the occasional grudge matches, because after the fight is done and there's a winner and a loser, the two people inside understand they are still human beings and bound together by that human condition - and bound by rules and regulations to safeguard everyone involved, it cannot be barbaric. All those things defy barbarism.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

That's the point. You assume a sport is barbaric and pointless because of its fans. That's not true at all.

Take, for instance, the Japanese crowd for the K-1 and MMA bouts. During the PRIDE days, MMA was apart of the culture. The fans were not uneducated drunken morons. The Japanese respected all aspects of the fight, and every fighter that came out to compete (I never heard a single boo).

Personally, I don't care what your reasons are, but, at least, have the common decency to respect it. I, myself, dislike NASCAR and Pro-Wrestling, but I respect the men and women who participate. It's their craft.

 

[chaseter]

Thinking a sport is stupid, or not understanding the point of a sport, is not the same as terming a sport barbaric, especially since "barbaric" as a descriptor has plagued that sport in the past, and might continue to.

If you think a sport is pointless, then educate yourself. Education is the inverse of ignorance, no?

No one says you have to like MMA. Are some people turned off by aspects of MMA? Sure. Some by the violence. Some by the sight of blood. Does that make them not like it? Sure, that might be the case. And I've met lots of people who don't like watching MMA who don't think it or refer to it as barbaric, and who can, at the base level, appreciate the athleticism and/or skill it takes to compete in the sport.

That it is a sport and driven by competition and, yes, honor and appreciation - and yes, that applies even to the occasional grudge matches, because after the fight is done and there's a winner and a loser, the two people inside understand they are still human beings and bound together by that human condition - and bound by rules and regulations to safeguard everyone involved, it cannot be barbaric. All those things defy barbarism.

Two men trying to knock each other out is barbaric and people cheering in the stands for it to happen is barbaric.

What do you think of the Roman Colisseum where people would fight to the death? Was it honor bound? I guess you could say that. Did it require skill and years and training? Yeah. Was the purpose of it to defeat the opponent to then be victorious and gain something? Yeah. Did people die? Yeah. Did spectators come out in droves and cheer when something violent happened? Yeah. Did people bet on the matches by wagering that the other person would lose? Yeah. So that wasn't barbaric? It was a spectator sport that was widely regarded as perfectly fine at the time and people idolized the gladiators. They were heroes. They were held as very high commodities and made a lot of people very rich. But of course it would be ignorant for me to say that it was barbaric right?

If me saying it's barbaric demeans a sport based out of violence then I apologize.

 

[chaseter]

That's the point. You assume a sport is barbaric and pointless because of its fans. That's not true at all.

Take, for instance, the Japanese crowd for the K-1 and MMA bouts. During the PRIDE days, MMA was apart of the culture. The fans were not uneducated drunken morons. The Japanese respected all aspects of the fight, and every fighter that came out to compete (I never heard a single boo).

Personally, I don't care what your reasons are, but, at least, have the common decency to respect it. I, myself, dislike NASCAR and Pro-Wrestling, but I respect the men and women who participate. It's their craft.

Who said MMA fans were uneducated, drunken morons?

You've never made fun of any other sport ever??? Bravo to you then.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Anyone else who said what Joe Rogan said in that video would be right, but it's Joe Rogan and he should never be encouraged.

not sure what your beef with him is, but i personally find him a funny dude and aside from his psychedelic talk he always keeps it real. some people might think he's a *****e loser who smokes too much pot but i respect the guy for knowing his martial arts and keeping things real.



regardless, the point of me posting that video wasn't to promote Joe Rogan...it was to illustrate sum this thread up in a video. Joe Rogan provides excellent points as to why MMA is not just a fad.

 

[greenrage36]

Take, for instance, the Japanese crowd for the K-1 and MMA bouts. During the PRIDE days, MMA was apart of the culture. The fans were not uneducated drunken morons. The Japanese respected all aspects of the fight, and every fighter that came out to compete (I never heard a single boo).

Heh..I literally JUST watched Pride # 1 the other day and I think some of the Japanese crowd was booing (or at least letting their displeasure known) during the Dan Severn-Kimo snoozefest...

.but yeah, for the most part the crowds are quite respectful and appreciative of the different aspects of the matches...

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Chase is an Athenian

 

[BlackLantern]

Japanese crowds are tonally different....look at their baseball, wrestling crowds....they are very respectful and active but never belligerent....not part of their bag

 

[El Bastardo]

Two men trying to knock each other out is barbaric and people cheering in the stands for it to happen is barbaric.

What do you think of the Roman Colisseum where people would fight to the death? Was it honor bound? I guess you could say that. Did it require skill and years and training? Yeah. Was the purpose of it to defeat the opponent to then be victorious and gain something? Yeah. Did people die? Yeah. Did spectators come out in droves and cheer when something violent happened? Yeah. Did people bet on the matches by wagering that the other person would lose? Yeah. So that wasn't barbaric? It was a spectator sport that was widely regarded as perfectly fine at the time and people idolized the gladiators. They were heroes. They were held as very high commodities and made a lot of people very rich. But of course it would be ignorant for me to say that it was barbaric right?

If me saying it's barbaric demeans a sport based out of violence then I apologize.

Okay, I think you're having a problem separating symbolism from facts. Let us attempt to aid you with this difficulty, good sir.

Removing all symbolism, there is very little that MMA has in common with Roman gladiatorial games. MMA fighters are skilled athletes, not slaves being made to kill others in order to live. Yes, sure, not all gladiators were necessarily slaves, but it's a moot point however the history goes. The gladiatorial games were not, however, barbaric - maybe in the crybaby definition, but not the true meaning of the word, considering that gladiatorial games becoming a high point of Roman social and political culture and civilization, which would decidedly be not uncivilized. Add to it that successful gladiators were often civilized men with a high skill-set and sophistication unto themselves - this goes against the phrase "barbaric."

I'm sorry. I believe in worth of words. Barbaric is stuff like human sacrifice, wholesale slaughter of groups of people because of ethnic differences, a lack of rights due to gender or sexual orientation or some form of under-privalege, and numerous other things prevalent in war-torn and/or third-world areas of the world.

So let's say about MMA what it is: it is a sport based on a potential for violence. It is not unregulated. It is not uncivilized. Instead of trying to be snarky about honor, which you've been for pages now, just focus on that. It's okay to not like the violence. That is what you mean to say. See? We're using words properly to accurately convey our thoughts.

 

[BlackLantern]

so that really tough dump I took after dinner is not 'barbaric'?

 

[Dreadstar]

I am calling it now. MMA will fade out of the lime light. Its a fad. Come talk to me after its been popular for 100+ years like boxing, is an Olympic sport, etc

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

^

 

[BlackLantern]

but boxing has been slowly limping along since the mid 90s now....I still watch as i enjoy the middleweight and welterweight divisions...but among the general sports watching populace, boxing isn't what it once was

can anyone even name the heavyweight title holders?

 

[El Bastardo]

so that really tough dump I took after dinner is not 'barbaric'?

You're an animal.

 

[Mace Bloodstone]

One of the Klitschko brothers is champ and fighting this weekend, i get them confused they look so much alike.

 

[BlackLantern]

You're an animal.

just asking....I broke out in a sweat and everything

 

[Jager X]

You're an animal.

A Harkonnen animal?

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

but boxing has been slowly limping along since the mid 90s now....I still watch as i enjoy the middleweight and welterweight divisions...but among the general sports watching populace, boxing isn't what it once was

can anyone even name the heavyweight title holders?

Klitschko, and boxers no one cares about.

My problem with boxing is multiple division champions

 

[Project862006]

boxing is fading once pac man and Floyd fight there is no more money matches left

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I am calling it now. MMA will fade out of the lime light. Its a fad. Come talk to me after its been popular for 100+ years like boxing, is an Olympic sport, etc

Well, ever heard of Pankration (the earliest form of MMA)? It was once featured in the Olympic games too.

I'm perplexed by your statement. See, TKD is an Olympic sport, yet it's not more popular than Judo or Greco-Roman Wrestling (both Olympic sports, as well -- a base for fighters in MMA).

Combat Sports are not fads.

 

[Project862006]

i am really perplexed how many ignorant people there are here on the sport of MMA

please educate yourself

 

[Paroxysm]

I am calling it now. MMA will fade out of the lime light. Its a fad. Come talk to me after its been popular for 100+ years like boxing, is an Olympic sport, etc