Drama USA_White Collar Series Thread

[Hunter Rider]

But we don't know WHY OPR was investigating Peter. Perhaps it is simply because of Neal. Peter's done some pretty shady things with Neal (in the pilot for example, Neal broke into that warehouse to get Peter to search it. That's pretty shady). Maybe the two aren't related? I just don't see how they can change the show's entire concept so dramatically, seven episodes in.

The way that end scene played there was menace, and I get the feeling Peter has been pulling Neal's strings all along, the question though is why?
I think something Neal stole must have a lot more value than he realized, maybe it could have even have had something stored in it of importance to the government and Neal is working a deep cover operation. On a side note I think the ring must have more significance than simply a fashion accessory when he goes into bad guy mode.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

the ring may have a listening device to record the conversation like the watch in ALL IN.

 

[Kaleb]

Hmm kinda wished I never read the last few pages of this thread, oh well the episode was awesome regardless. I do hope it turns out that Peter is indeed the one behind it all,that would be badass

 

[Matt]

So assuming I'm wrong, and Peter is the man with the ring with everything that implies, what will Elizabeth's reaction be? After all, unless she was in on it, he has essentially used her as a pawn to manipulate Neal.

 

[Kaleb]

How are the rating on this show btw ?

 

[Matt]

Aside from one dip it has stayed consistent at about 4.5 million viewers which is decent for a USA show.

 

[Hunter Rider]

the ring may have a listening device to record the conversation like the watch in ALL IN.

Could be, but I think it may have something to do with whatever Peter is looking for in the stuff Neal stole.

So assuming I'm wrong, and Peter is the man with the ring with everything that implies, what will Elizabeth's reaction be? After all, unless she was in on it, he has essentially used her as a pawn to manipulate Neal.

I'm honestly not sure but it will give Tiffani Thiasen some good material to work with hopefully.

 

[Showtime]

What the hell!?! Peter can't be dirty without changing the entire direction of the show. At the same time, its pretty damning. I hope they have a really good explanation for this. My guess is that Peter's actions are somehow protecting Kate. Perhaps she was an informant who got caught up in something bigger and Peter is protecting her? Oh man, I can't wait til January.

I personally think that Peter is using Kate to either keep Neal in check or to test his his loyalty to the FBI.

 

[GhostPoet]

Why does everyone assume it's Peter? I'm thinking it's Peter's boss....unless you all are catching something i'm not.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Probably because Peter's sitting there when Kate comes into the room at the end and he says they need to talk about Neal.

 

[Kaleb]

I dont think that there is any double twist in this story , I think that its always been Peter the whole time.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I do too, but I think everything's been arranged to look much worse than it is. I think Peter's somehow protecting Kate, as others here have mentioned. I'm sure it'll have to be an impressive explanation to account for the elaborate ruse of Kate being a captive and leaving hints for Neal, but the writers seem pretty good so far, so we'll see.

 

[RogueDK]

Somehow I deduced early on in the series that the Man With The Ring was Bizzaro Jerry with a few breadcrumbs thrown here and there to the most inevitable conclusion. However I don't think that there is any maliciousness behind his intent.


The writers would've backed themselves into a corner with that villian angle because Peter's straight guy schtick is very likeable.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't believe Peter's a malevolent mastermind simply because that's not the premise of the show. USA's shows are built on very simple, consistent formulas. Monk: neurotic guy solves crimes and humor ensues from the culture clash between him and the "normal" world. Psych: guy poses as a psychic and solves crimes with his buddy and a lot of humor. White Collar: honest FBI guy and reformed con man solve crimes with Odd Couple-esque humor.

There's more to the shows, obviously, but those are the core concepts and they remain pretty consistent throughout each series. White Collar doesn't really work if it becomes "crooked FBI guy dupes con man by threatening his girlfriend." How would Neal and Peter ever possibly work together after that? Why would we ever relate to Peter as the straight man anymore? It just shifts the dynamic so drastically. I could see it on a show where the point is to shake up the status quo but USA's shows just aren't traditionally like that.

Granted, we're only a few episodes into White Collar, so it's entirely possible that I'm wrong and they really are turning the show's formula on its head.

 

[RogueDK]

Granted, we're only a few episodes into White Collar, so it's entirely possible that I'm wrong and they really are turning the show's formula on its head.

Which would be enough to make me stop watching it; Peter's my favorite character on the show and plays well off of Neal to near perfection thus far.

BTW, I'm sure that it's been mentioned before so pardon me for asking but whatever happened to the alleged hot, lesbian agent in the debut episode? The angle didn't pan out well with the viewing public or what?

It's like she was written out totally.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Which would be enough to make me stop watching it; Peter's my favorite character on the show and plays well off of Neal to near perfection thus far.

BTW, I'm sure that it's been mentioned before so pardon me for asking but whatever happened to the alleged hot, lesbian agent in the debut episode? The angle didn't pan out well with the viewing public or what?

It's like she was written out totally.

The actress got a scheduling conflict since they took so long to pick up the pilot.

Hopefully, they can bring her back since they didn't acknowledge her leaving.

 

[RogueDK]

^^^Okay, Thanks for the info.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh man, I'd totally forgotten about her. I kind of like the dynamic between the current agents, though. Jones and Cruz seem to have taken over Diana's spot as Peter's gruntwork junior agent, and Cruz has good chemistry with Neal.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Cruz has good chemistry with Neal.

Really? I still don't like her. She doesn't come off as a professional FBI agent. She's become less annoying since her debut but she also only has like 6 lines per episode.


I hope she ends up being one of Fowler's moles like I saw someone else suggest.

 

[RogueDK]

IMO, there's really not enough shown of Cruz to base an opinion on her. She's a pretty face that comes off as abit annoying at times with her sexually repressive wisecracks to Neal.

Perhaps as the series progresses her character will get fleshed out more but I'm hoping that she's a mole.

 

[wiegeabo]

Chalk it up to the fact that I never watched the show when it was on, and only happened to realize it when I saw the end of a rerun tonight, but I didn't know that Peter was Bizarro Jerry on Seinfeld.

 

[Nightwing 52]

Can't believe I missed the fall finale.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It's still on Hulu.

 

[Nightwing 52]

Thanks Corp.

 

[wiegeabo]

Just saw a promo. White Collar's back next month, but they're moving it to Tuesdays.