Apocalypse Users Rate, Review, and React to X-Men: Apocalypse (TAG SPOILERS)

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I don't get what the issue is overall hadn't Magneto caused and inflicted so much death and pain on people in the comics? And the guy got put in charge of the X-Men.
 
Overall reaction:

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This. I'm not sure whether the people who are complaining most about JLaw's performance were already having JLaw fatigue. The people I've talked with who were fine with JLaw had no problems with her acting in this movie. Not the best performance ever, but it's consistent with what she has given to this franchise so far. I also bought that Mystique was going through this 'I don't have any ****s to give' phase, after being a mutant savior for close to 20 years, the majority of time of which she was on her own. Not at all an interesting performance, but nothing damaging to the movie.

I do wish her potential return was more ambiguous in the movie though. Rather have her leave on good terms with Charles, and Magneto be the one to stay.

It's refreshing to see someone that agrees!

My favourite scene of her in the movie occurs when the newbies on the jet and they're flying towards Egypt to take on Apocalypse. The newbies are uncertain and asking for Mystique's approach. She brings up her past, hints towards FC, and gets to emote.

I really liked her arc in the movie, too. She refuses to use her powers because she shuns them, is cynical, but then shapes into a role model at the end of the movie, and uses her powers in the climax.

One thing that did bother me is when they're in Weapon X and their powers are disabled, yet Mystique is still in J-Law form, haha.
 
I dont think it strays that far from the rest of the franchise. It is most like The Last Stand, which ironically is considered the worst film in the series

I personally found it to be the most irreverent and campy of the series. Like an episode from the 90s X-Men. Rightfully so, not that "I'm the Juggernaut, ****" nonsensical camp from The Last Stand.

I meant in tone, not in scope.
 
And Stark is ridden with guilt, which is why he decided to support the Accord in CW. I doubt Magneto even feel guilty for anything he has done.
thats not the argument.
Magneto was guilty and got off Scott Free
Stark was guilty and got off Scott free

And Stark did the worst thing with his guilt. He influenced and demanded that his friends sign a stupid pact in which he was orginally responsible for all virtually all the collateral damage that the pact stemmed from.

That's like goin to pick up ur friends b4 a night out in the town but being drunk before you leave. You go pick ur friends up, they have no idea ur driving under the influence and you get into an accident, injure one of your friends and kill a pedestrian. Then you demand all your friends to sign a pact to never drive again at night.
It doesnt matter if you're guilty if you're not willing to turn yourself in.
 
I've NEVER heard or read this anywhere. I'm almost 100% sure that's not accurate. I do know of another female mutant named Oya, who manipulates temperature (hot & cool) and her power works by heating up one area and causing another to freeze. But I've never read that about Storm.

Oya https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oya_(comics)

I seem to recall it in the issue where Storm and that Alpha Flight guy were fighting and the story where Storm was encased in stone by Doctor Doom (but, in the latter case, it could just be that she was controlling the entire world's weather at once since her claustrophobia was freaking her out).
 
I think all the negative and mixed reviews set my expectations at a reasonable level, as I was entertained during the movie. It's not the best X-Men movie, and it is our expectations that each installment will set the bar higher than its previous, which in reality, is difficult to do so (let's be honest; DOFP was probably one of the best, it had big shoes to fill) . I really enjoyed the new cast, specifically Jean and Scott. Quicksilver stole every scene he was in. Anther point is Fassbender's Magneto, as these new films would be no where as enjoyable without him for me personally. I think my biggest complaint with this movie, as well as all the other X-Men movies is wanting more, and having it end with a glimpse of what could be more, and then the next installment seems to never truly satisfy that anticipation(with the exception of DOFP). Another problem is Fox's marketing department with this film, as the trailers revealed too much. It would have been awesome to been surprised with the reveal of the X-Men in their comic book costumes, but the trailer have the short and sweet scene away I give it a 7/10.
 
thats not the argument.
Magneto was guilty and got off Scott Free
Stark was guilty and got off Scott free

And Stark did the worst thing with his guilt. He influenced and demanded that his friends sign a stupid pact in which he was orginally responsible for all virtually all the collateral damage that the pact stemmed from.

That's like goin to pick up ur friends b4 a night out in the town but being drunk before you leave. You go pick ur friends up, they have no idea ur driving under the influence and you get into an accident, injure one of your friends and kill a pedestrian. Then you demand all your friends to sign a pact to never drive again at night.
It doesnt matter if you're guilty if you're not willing to turn yourself in.

I don't see it this way. Yes, Tony Stark created Ultron, but his purpose was to use it to help humanity and also to avoid the vision that Wanda gave him, which he saw the entire Avengers teams killed and Earth being invaded by alien forces. He didn't create Ultron to cause destruction and mayhem, which happened anyway. He and the other Avengers also stopped Ultron just in time and while it did caused some casualties, Ultron's plan was ultimately intervened. So Stark made a mistake and he spent the rest of the movie tried to undo it, while Magneto killed thousands and only had a change of heart at the last minute and defied Apocalypse, not to mention his crimes from FC and DOFP. I don't think it's fair to compare both Tony and Erik's deeds as if they're one and the same.
 
I thought the movie was a big step down from the last 2 of first class and DOFP but better then xmen 3 for sure and maybe around the worverin level. I thought the movie was kind of boring but had some good parts and I felt sorry for magento after this movie. Question the after credit thing what was that? I have no idea what that was or what that means. I was just like ok what was the point in that?
 
I thought the movie was a big step down from the last 2 of first class and DOFP but better then xmen 3 for sure and maybe around the worverin level. I thought the movie was kind of boring but had some good parts and I felt sorry for magento after this movie. Question the after credit thing what was that? I have no idea what that was or what that means. I was just like ok what was the point in that?

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I don't see it this way. Yes, Tony Stark created Ultron, but his purpose was to use it to help humanity and also to avoid the vision that Wanda gave him, which he saw the entire Avengers teams killed and Earth being invaded by alien forces. He didn't create Ultron to cause destruction and mayhem, which happened anyway. He and the other Avengers also stopped Ultron just in time and while it did caused some casualties, Ultron's plan was ultimately intervened. So Stark made a mistake and he spent the rest of the movie tried to undo it, while Magneto killed thousands and only had a change of heart at the last minute and defied Apocalypse, not to mention his crimes from FC and DOFP. I don't think it's fair to compare both Tony and Erik's deeds as if they're one and the same.
You missed my point.
Tony was reckless. And LIVES were lost because of it.
If you lose a family member to a drunk driver, "i didn't mean to im sorry" doesnt soften the blow.
It was totally wrong. He should pay the price, the same way Mags should.

Not the same penalty, but they both got off scotch free, Justice was spat on.
 
You missed my point.
Tony was reckless. And LIVES were lost because of it.
If you lose a family member to a drunk driver, "i didn't mean to im sorry" doesnt soften the blow.
It was totally wrong. He should pay the price, the same way Mags should.

Not the same penalty, but they both got off scotch free, Justice was spat on.

Tony Stark has been an Avengers and saving countless lives. He even saved NYC from being nuked. I don't see how you can say he's the same as Magneto, who has been a villain since FC and killed many lives without remorse. What Stark did with Ultron was a mistake; can't say the same about Magneto.
 
Tony Stark has been an Avengers and saving countless lives. He even saved NYC from being nuked. I don't see how you can say he's the same as Magneto, who has been a villain since FC and killed many lives without remorse. What Stark did with Ultron was a mistake; can't say the same about Magneto.
that is not the point
here
let me walk you through the analogy


is drunk driving reckless? (tony was reckless)
yes.
did the drunk diver mean to kill the person?(tony's action led to deaths of mean, his recklessness)
no.
should the drunk driving meet justice?
yes.
and so should Tony

this is not comparing Tony to Erik
This is comparing how they both got off free
 
I give it a B-. Weapon X, Quicksilver and Magneto were the best parts to me, the rest was meh. Archangel's pineapple haircut was pretty goofy, and much of the CGI was terrible, like it wasn't finished.
 
that is not the point
here
let me walk you through the analogy


is drunk driving reckless? (tony was reckless)
yes.
did the drunk diver mean to kill the person?(tony's action led to deaths of mean, his recklessness)
no.
should the drunk driving meet justice?
yes.
and so should Tony

this is not comparing Tony to Erik
This is comparing how they both got off free

Just have to agree to disagree then.
 
They sort of danced around how responsible Magneto was for his actions after meeting Apocalypse. Charles seemed to suggest he was compromised somewhat.
 
You missed my point.
Tony was reckless. And LIVES were lost because of it.
If you lose a family member to a drunk driver, "i didn't mean to im sorry" doesnt soften the blow.
It was totally wrong. He should pay the price, the same way Mags should.

Not the same penalty, but they both got off scotch free, Justice was spat on.

Thank you. This is exactly why I disliked Age of Ultron so much--Stark knew he was playing with fire, and not only did he get away with all the destruction he caused, but he shows no remoarse for it.

Magnetic was even worse, intentionally murdering people with no reluctance. They showed the destruction porn at a distance on purpose, in hopes that we, the audience, won't realize there are people in the buildings he's demolishing, there are people in those cars being flung off the bridges. Moms with their kids...and because Magneto helped rescue his friends, it's okay? No, he is an a-hole. To hell with him.
 
I seem to recall it in the issue where Storm and that Alpha Flight guy were fighting and the story where Storm was encased in stone by Doctor Doom (but, in the latter case, it could just be that she was controlling the entire world's weather at once since her claustrophobia was freaking her out).

I'm pretty sure it was just her going phoenix style on the weather and causing hurricanes and tornadoes everywhere because she'd lost control do to fear yeah.

It was a story shortly after Dofp, can't remember the issue
 
3rd viewing last night. My score remains an 8/10. But a pretty solid 8.
 
I seem to recall it in the issue where Storm and that Alpha Flight guy were fighting and the story where Storm was encased in stone by Doctor Doom (but, in the latter case, it could just be that she was controlling the entire world's weather at once since her claustrophobia was freaking her out).

You know depending on the writer or the arc they will change up anyone's powers. Lol
 
I seem to recall it in the issue where Storm and that Alpha Flight guy were fighting and the story where Storm was encased in stone by Doctor Doom (but, in the latter case, it could just be that she was controlling the entire world's weather at once since her claustrophobia was freaking her out).

You're exagerating. It wasnt the entire world's weather. She was in NY and the text said the effects of her freakout reached as far as the West Indies. Thats quite a feat but far from controlling the entire world's weather at once. It was pretty much just the East Coast of North America
 
Thank you. This is exactly why I disliked Age of Ultron so much--Stark knew he was playing with fire, and not only did he get away with all the destruction he caused, but he shows no remoarse for it.

Magnetic was even worse, intentionally murdering people with no reluctance. They showed the destruction porn at a distance on purpose, in hopes that we, the audience, won't realize there are people in the buildings he's demolishing, there are people in those cars being flung off the bridges. Moms with their kids...and because Magneto helped rescue his friends, it's okay? No, he is an a-hole. To hell with him.

Yeah i was beside myself when
in AOU
Stark had the oppurtunity to create another Sentient being... AND WENT AFTER IT! That's the arc of a Villain!
 
I just got out and guys, I LOVED IT. As a kid from the 90s who grew up with the Xmen this movie made me smile. It is not perfect and there are flaws. The first half is kinda slow with a lot of build up of the characters and plot ( which I suspect is what turned off critics) but there is PAYOFF and it delivers one HELL of a third act. We finally get to see the Xmen act like X-MEN.

Apocalypse was a great villain. He was menacing, be was powerful and formidable. He was what I wanted out of En Saba Nur.

Best of all, it had heart. The characters were very likeable and Scott and Jean in particular outclassed their older counterparts by far. Macavoy and Fassbender turned in great performances and Fassbender in particular made you really feel for him.

Wolverine's cameo....DAMN. I had goosebumps.

All in all. To me, this is either a 8.5-9/10. I gotta wait to calm down and let the hype settle in so I can properly score it. However, I CANNOT fathom why anyone would call this anything remotely close to a bad film. I can see some flaws that maybe irked some people but a bad movie??? In what way? What in this movie was so egregious that it would warrant some of the vitriol I'm hearing such as "worst comic book film ever"?

I am a very, very happy Xmen and comic book fan right now. This was an awesome film and a great close to the First Class trilogy and a hopeful, exciting start to a new generation. I cant wait to ser more of these Xmen.

8.5-9/10.
 
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