Comics Venom Idea

[littleredhat]

Here is what I hope will happen.

*warning rambleings*

Doctor Strange manages to get the cancer cure back from whomever has taken it and it starts to go into testing. One of the first human test subjects happens to be a comatose Eddie Brock. It heals him and after a few months of rehab he finds out where his other has gone to. He rages with jelousey and swears to get it back.

He breaks in to ThunderBolts HQ and offers promises of eternal devotion and a box of chocolates freaking out the T-Bolts.

He also says he has a vision that will make both thier dreams come true.

Intriged the suit makes contact with Eddie and almost instantly leaves Gargan.

You see Eddie wants everyone to be as happy as he is with his other and the alien needs to reproduce.

Enter the Church of Symbiosis. Join and you will never be alone again

 

[ScottishFogg]

so we get many, many more symbiotes? no offense, but no thanks. i think the 90's taught us the danger in that.

 

[The_Dark_Knight]

Yeah we do NOT need more symbiotes. thats a no no

 

[Venomfan]

how about he is so pissed that he goes into thunderbolts place, gets the symbiot off gargan, and then beats the crap out of every last one of them - that would be a comeback and a half

 

[littleredhat]

Yeah we do NOT need more symbiotes. thats a no no

Exactly. This is a plan that will get Eddie in more trouble than he has ever been.

Before he was only a threat to Spider-Man and anyone in their general area that got them mad. If they intend to set loose a barrage of living costumes on the earth that turns them into a global threat.

And Spider-Man has to stop him.

I DO NOT want thousands of symbiotes. Just the threat of them as the plot to a storyline.

 

[Arcturus]

lol, we need millions, no billions more, lolz.

No seriousily, Venom and Carnage are fine. As long as the meat and potatos are there, I don't see a need for more symbiotes.

K, thx, bye.

 

[Venomfan]

i think carnage was too much lol, he stole Venoms thunder, and it still pisses me off that carnage is stronger

 

[Venom Drool]

the symbiote strength ratio doesn't make much sense unless its built on insanity level. if thats the case, marvel never let it on. seperation anxiety was a demonstration of how crap the other symbiotes are, the game rocked, but the comics didnt.

my idea is:

brock beats the cancer. no miracle cure needed; the symbiote sustained him long enough for his body to understand how to fight and remove it, just like when he was bonded with the symbiote. this is the hard part. how does he get the symbiote back without major eye rolling. remember his change of heart/ the good soul he was in the hunger arc. they cannot play on good natured brock, as his hero for hire stint was utter crap after Lethal Protector. so we want badass brock from his first appearance correct? well here goes a few ideas

it was mentionwd in the hunger arc about the symbiote giving birth...again. this could result in brock's symbiote. the reason he goes back for it is cause the suit screwed his brain enough for him to borderline insanity, but at the same time, venom is an awesome character, we can't have him be as dumb as a doorknob. so he bonds with the suit, sly smile and all. he fights gargan as it was the suit who betrayed him in the hunger arc. eddie's goal? kill the original symbiote. gargan doesn't die of course but is driven to a point of insanity himself. this adds the layer to the scorpion who used to be a dumb bank robber. ugh .

eddie has new suit. is as evil as he once was, and spiderman needs to be destroyed of course. not because he ruined EVERYONE'S life but because he ruined his. he goes tow to toe with spidey as his fights were always greatly matched. so its black suit vs black suit, just like the old days. he gets away somehow.

now lets not forget his last book with the space guys and all that crap with the andriods etc. it was a fun book untill they mixed wolverine and the FF in it. pick up where that story left off except VENOM is NOT the ****ing GOOD GUY. in fact, we dont see his thoguhts at all unless he has a few panels letting the reader know whats going on. Let's treat him like something more than an awesome looking chracter with one liners. also. his shape is OLD SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no hulking blob of crap from sensational. my borderline is the way he looked in his last titled book called Venom. there you have it.
Venom's back.

 

[arachnid-guy]

um.....what was that all about?

Church of Symbiosis? come on....

 

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

the symbiote takes eddie to muary to prove that he is his babys daddy. "Eddie Brock you are the Father!"

 

[Venom Drool]

umm what?

 

[Spider-X]

Here is what I hope will happen.

*warning rambleings*

Doctor Strange manages to get the cancer cure back from whomever has taken it and it starts to go into testing. One of the first human test subjects happens to be a comatose Eddie Brock. It heals him and after a few months of rehab he finds out where his other has gone to. He rages with jelousey and swears to get it back.

He breaks in to ThunderBolts HQ and offers promises of eternal devotion and a box of chocolates freaking out the T-Bolts.

He also says he has a vision that will make both thier dreams come true.

Intriged the suit makes contact with Eddie and almost instantly leaves Gargan.

You see Eddie wants everyone to be as happy as he is with his other and the alien needs to reproduce.

Enter the Church of Symbiosis. Join and you will never be alone again

i just gonna say what everyone here is thinking: that's very very ******ed...

 

[arachnid-guy]

i just gonna say what everyone here is thinking: that's very very ******ed...

dude. look at my sig!

that is sig worthy, my friend. Lo....and it shall be so.

 

[Venom Drool]

yea.. my idea is better

 

[Venom 1988]

I guess no one remembers "Planet of the Symbiotes" then. With good reason too, seeing as it was crappy

 

[Venom Drool]

i do.. vaguely..

 

[Spider-X]

dude. look at my sig!

that is sig worthy, my friend. Lo....and it shall be so.

sweet! let the truth ring loud and clear to those how can...um...read.

 

[The Cajun]

No seriousily, Venom and Carnage are fine.

I miss Carnage. When is he coming back?

 

[Dangerous]

The best idea would be to kill off Eddie Brock for real, let the cancer consume him.
He is good for nothing, the last 5 years of Eddie as Venom in the comics proved that.
Let all the whining fanboys deal with it.

Gargan as Venom is a much more exciting and interesting to read character than the stale
'I want to eat your brains' lame-o that is Eddie.
He stopped being an interesting or well written villain a LOOONNG time ago.
His motivation to hate Spidey is so limited, he would have surely moved on by now and if not it just shows how shallow and unappealing the character is.

Most of the Eddie fanboys are noobs who have not even read MKSM#8-12 + Beyond #1-6 anyway.

 

[DACrowe]

I say **** it. Venom was a great villain at first. But he has little replay value. He is very much like Morlun. A great villain the first time. Maybe Venom has more longevity and survived being good for a good 2 or 3 more stories. But then the "unstoppable force with no depth that will keep coming" loses its interest. And it becomes as lame and contrived as Morlun did when tehy brought him back (by they I mean JMS ruining his name amongst Spidey fans).

I think Sam RAimi is WISELY using Venom at his best, the ultimate unstoppable threat that Peter has to reluctantly go face. You try and tlel that more than once (or in comic world more than 3 times hoenstly) it gets old.

I say let someone powerful, **** Norman Osborn would be fine for this, just because I want to be done with it and it would cement to newbies that GG is greater than Venom, rip the symbiote off Gargan and send him packing as Scorpion again. They then burn the symbiote into nothingness and at the end of the same issue Eddie Brock gives in to his cancer.

We are free.


I really liked Venom too at first, but he has no value to come back. He certainly isn't as interesting as other '80s villain that came out like say the Hobgoblin. Take the Jenkins run recently. He did all 3 major Spidey villains back to back in character studies. They were all the same high level quality writing (with the art leaving something to be desired in all 3 tales) but due to the charisma and depth of cahracter the GG and Doc Ock stories were just much more enjoyable. That is because Venom is a one-trick pony.

Let's let it go now.

 

[Dangerous]

I can dig what you are saying DA, 'cept I don't care about the movies, far as I'm concerned they are irrelevant.

Like you pointed out Venom is a similar character to Morlun, in that he is one dimensional.
When he first appeared he was an awesome powerhouse and a real threat to PP, and his families life.
That was the point of Venom/Brock, a big ball of hate that was created to Kill SM.
So for a few years we got some great exciting stories, but once we arrive at Maximum Carnage, were Venom ends up being recruited by SM to help him,..
What the hell is all that about?
Venom becomes PG-13 rated, and Spidey and Venom call a truce.

Since ASM#347 Venom has been a *****.
He was no longer solely driven to kill Spider-man.
When SM recruited Venom in the MC storyline, Venom should have ripped off SM's head at his first chance.

The way I see it, the longer Venom/Brock exists or is out there webslinging around, without having killed the webhead, the more his legacy is diluted and the more lame he looks too.
What is the point for him to exist as a character if he can't fulfil his initial and all consuming prophecy?
Makes him look like a bit of a failure don’t it?
There is no point for him to exist.

The symbiote attaching itself to different hosts who have different agendas and life experiences is much more interesting to read than some gimp who is always going on about one thing but never accomplishes it.

I imagine the blindly loyal Venom/Brock fanboy never considers any of this stuff.
Also he is in his late teens and was first introduced to Spidey & Venom via the animated show.

 

[Shockdingo]

I think the tons of symbiotes idea isn't really a good idea, I just think it's too much and it could easily take a horrible turn.

 

[Arcturus]

Most of the Eddie fanboys are noobs who have not even read MKSM#8-12 + Beyond #1-6 anyway.

I imagine the blindly loyal Venom/Brock fanboy never considers any of this stuff. Also he is in his late teens and was first introduced to Spidey & Venom via the animated show.

Hmmm, I was introduced to Venom via an older collection called, "Spider-Man Versus Venom" by Todd Mcfarlane and David Michelinie. I was eight years old at the time, and it was the first Spider-Man comic I evrer got, and i've been a fan of not just Spider-Man, but Venom ever since. Looks like your "theory" is already flawed.

 

[Dangerous]

Hmmm, I was introduced to Venom via an older collection called, "Spider-Man Versus Venom" by Todd Mcfarlane and David Michelinie. I was eight years old at the time, and it was the first Spider-Man comic I evrer got, and i've been a fan of not just Spider-Man, but Venom ever since. Looks like your "theory" is already flawed.

So you are saying you are a blindly loyal fanboy then? heh

 

[Arcturus]

So you are saying you are a blindly loyal fanboy then? heh

How about loyal fan? You know, a fan of Spider-Man comics, a fan of the various characters, plotlones and all the mythos?