Sequels Venom Spin-Off ISN'T Dead????

[SymbioticToxin]

Do that, but CGI-enhance a few things. Namely just the mouth, the webbing, and the symbiote when it's coming off or just slithering about.

 

[GoldGoblin]

They've been saying that a Venom movie is in the works for nearly 20 years. I'll believe it when I see it.

^
I kinda agree.

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

Jensen Ackles for Brock/Venom

the film better be rated R. if this movie takes place in the same universe as the new Spiderman film, then a cameo by Garfield would be nice. it could make for a great setup for either the 2nd or 3rd Spidey film.

 

[I'm Venom]

I always said that Jensen Ackles would make an awesome Eddie Brock, and no to Spider-Man in it. There's just no need for him.

 

[Orb]

I don't know how to feel about this. Spin off movies have always turned out really bad and there has to be Spidey in this because otherwise it would feel incomplete. Venom's origins directly tie with Spider-man. I am fan of Jensen Ackles for Venom and I even made this (crappy) manip way back:

 

[GoldGoblin]

Villains shouldn't have spinoffs,it ruins what their characters are.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

Says you. It could also enhance the character if done well.

 

[I'm Venom]

Maybe Trank could do something cool.

 

[GoldGoblin]

Its like having a Joker movie with no Batman,it would suck.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Its like having a Joker movie with no Batman,it would suck.

Not the same. As the Joker said in TDK, "you complete me"--because he's a true villian who needs a true hero for the drama to work. Venom is a wild card character. He can work as the anti-hero with Carnage, Sin-Eater, Gargan. He doesn't always need Spider-man.

 

[I'm Venom]

If they had the right people working in and on this movie, it could easily be entertaining, even if it was PG-13. They could make a movie that's similar to "Lethal Protector" with the Jury out hunting Venom, wanting the symbiote. I'd go see that.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Please stop with this "anti-hero" bs....he has never been an anti anything. He's a f***ing villain, and should be treated that way. That's the reason why the character is so screwed, because Marvel is not letting him be what he is....a villain. Stop It.

 

[I'm Venom]

Even as a villain, Venom wasn't really a criminal so much as a man drunk with power who eventually turned to cleaning up the streets in his own way. He's a lot more like Punisher than like Joker.

 

[GoldGoblin]

Seems like this will be another way to screw up this character again.

 

[SymbioticToxin]

Depending on how you do it, you can have both Venom and Carnage in the film. Venom can still be a villain, but fights Carnage because of the whole 'Hating your offspring' thing they have. Or make it as Venom being a villain abut slowly become an anti-hero. Just an idea I'm shootin' out there.

 

[Resistance61513]

^ See that's what I was thinking. I think a lot of people are crucifying this film before any REAL details are released. This film, at least to me, sounds interesting. While I agree, maybe they're going about it a little wrong, it's definitely cool.

I kind of wish they would have Venom in the Amazing Spider-Man and THEN have this spin off. I think it should be rated R though. And if they do decide to go ahead with this, they should bring in Carnage. Carnage obviously won't be seeing any screen time with The Amazing Spider-Man.

But yeah, Venom is definitely a cool anti-hero. I know a lot of people hate the concept but Diane Duane did some beautiful characterization for Venom. He doesn't think like Spider-Man. His version of justice is killing and making sure scum stays off the streets. That's what was really cool about his character when being the lethal protector.

He kind of has a Punisher sense to him.

 

[I'm Venom]

Venom has always been a sort of lesser evils, he just wanted Spider-Man dead.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Even as a villain, Venom wasn't really a criminal so much as a man drunk with power who eventually turned to cleaning up the streets in his own way. He's a lot more like Punisher than like Joker.

I agree, and that is the approach, any incarnation of the character needs to get away from, be it print, animation, or film. I think all incarnations are focusing on the wrong aspect of the character; and, this is the reason why I feel the character is lost to writers, hollow to readers/viewers, and the character itself has no real foundation & motivation. Venom, itself should not be the focus; but the result. The focus should be on the dynamic between Sym and it's host. How one's life flirting on the edge; and, the Sym's effects takes it's host over that edge...in becoming a very potent & dangerous adversary.

Seems like this will be another way to screw up this character again.

I agree, because they(the writers & producers) will continue to follow the same hollow blueprint that is the character today. If they don not have the vision to see, to think outside the box, and focus on character development, they will rush out more of the same "eye-candy" that some will like, most will detest. I for one, don't want to see that happen. I simply believe, they don't no how to handle this character or what to do with it.

 

[I'm Venom]

I agree, and that is the approach, any incarnation of the character needs to get away from, be it print, animation, or film. I think all incarnations are focusing on the wrong aspect of the character; and, this is the reason why I feel the character is lost to writers, hollow to readers/viewers, and the character itself has no real foundation & motivation.

They could make Venom a sort of anti-hero. Yes, he was a villain in the beginning, but the character evolved from simply being a Spider-Man enemy to more of a vigilante.

 

[I'm Venom]

Here’s how I’d do it:

Low on money, Eddie Brock got a job working for a newspaper, where his job was to investigate as much as he could about a “vigilante” (obviously Spider-Man, but not mentioned by name). However, there was an incident where Brock was fired from his job. He was offered a job as a security guard by Professor Miles Warren, who works at a laboratory where they’re researching this ooze that was discovered on an asteroid.

One night, a group of criminals break into the building, and Brock tries to stop them, following them into the lab, but they shoot him, the bullet also fragmenting the glass of the ooze’s container. As he lays bleeding, the ooze seeps through the glass and bonds to him, turning him into Venom and giving him the strength to kill all the criminals.

Warren hires the Jury to hunt Venom down and take the symbiote from him, and the story progresses from there.

 

[Venom75]

Venom's origins involving Spider-man would have to be addressed. How else to explain where Venom got his wall crawling and web spinning ability,as well as the similiar Spider-man like eyes and spider symbol on his chest? Unless the symbiote itself evolved from a race of spider-like creatures on another planet? But I think that would be a bit too far out there to put into a film.

 

[Venom'sDad]

You don't necessarily need Spider-Man directly to explain Venom's orgin. I understand that is the widely accepted way of explaining Venom powers. I would like it to be told in a more sinister way, that provide some history and background to the Symbiote itself.

Reason why the character as a whole needs to be re-invented....all aspects of him.

 

[I'm Venom]

They could rewrite Venom's origin so that Spider-Man doesn't even wear the symbiote, which bond itself with a spider when it lands on Earth before discovering Eddie. This would explain where Venom gets his abilities and the symbol on his back/chest.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

They could rewrite Venom's origin so that Spider-Man doesn't even wear the symbiote, which bond itself with a spider when it lands on Earth before discovering Eddie. This would explain where Venom gets his abilities and the symbol on his back/chest.

Sony is not going to start-up a Venom franchise without ties to Spider-Man, their 3 billion dollar property. That's the only reason they are considering it. Venom without ties to Spider-Man is not Venom, period. Spider-Man doesn't need to be in it but there needs to be a connection. If Venom is going to be reinvented it will be in the comic pages, not in a multi-million dollar film franchise. That is just silly.

 

[Hobgoblin]

I'm really afraid that a Venom movie would become a mess, like Ghost Rider or Punisher: War Journal. You know, the anti-hero is portrayed as so ridiculously over the top that he becomes campy.