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Villains for the Netflix series

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What villains do you think we might see over the course of Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, Luke Cage and the Defenders miniseries?

I was responding to the following in the "Marvel Universe Villains Yet To Appear In Cinema" thread and I figured this is a question that could do with it's own thread :)....


I am pretty keen to see The Hood someday on big screen. Not sure what story for him would make for a decent movie script though.

I think the Hood would make a great villain to build up slowly over the Netflix series and have as the main villain in the Defenders miniseries...

A lot of his backstory is associated with Spider-Man villains (as a child he witnessed a battle between Daredevil and Electro), but he's also come into contact with a lot of other New York superheroes, particularly following an incident involving Owl stealing Deathlok from SHIELD (... Could the TV version of Deathlok from Agents of SHIELD also feature in the Defenders series?)

At one time the Hood also possessed several of the Infinity Gems so they maybe they could change that to one of those and have that feed into the Thanos arc?
It would also make him a suitably powerful adversary for the team coming together in the miniseries to take on, in addition to his criminal empire which could be hinted to be building up over time.

Even if he's not the main villain in Defenders, I still think the Netflix series is where we're likely to see him.

:)


I think we could also see the likes of...

Kingpin
Owl
Purple Man
Master Khan
Bushmaster

...and maybe even Jigsaw if Marvel have any intention of bringing Punisher to the party further down the line?
 
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Hmm, I'd say it somewhat depends on what they plan for the Defenders climax to be about. If the Big Bad that they all take on in the end is the Kingpin, then that obviously means the Kingpin shouldn't be the primary villain on Daredevil.
 
A few I would like to see include - Arcade, Tombstone, Hammerhead, Circus Of Crime, Count Nefaria, Madcap, Eel & Owl.
 
If Deathlok transitions into the Netflix shows hopefully he'll look more like Deathlok and not this cheap version we've been subjected to.
For villains I would love Typhoid Mary.
 
If Deathlok transitions into the Netflix shows hopefully he'll look more like Deathlok and not this cheap version we've been subjected to.
For villains I would love Typhoid Mary.

I'm sure Deathlok is still very early on in his transformation, give it some time and we may get the full cyborg we are hopping for.

As for a Defenders villain, I wouldn't mind seeing Graviton transition over to the Netflix shows, it will foster a deeper sense of continuity between all of the properties and bring an awesome avengers level baddie to MCU.
 
The Kingpin.
Bullseye.
Typhoid Mary.
Lady Bullseye.
The Purple Man.
Mr. Fear.
The Hood.
Barracuda.
 
Daredevil
-Kingpin
-Bullseye
-Typhoid Mary
-Gladiator
-Mr. Fear
 
Hope to see an interesting take on Purple Man, though he would need somebody creative and visionary, otherwise it will be a cheesy and generic villain of the week.
 
Daredevil

Elektra
Bullseye
Typhoid Mary
Kingpin (foreshadowing)

Luke Cage

The Sons of the Serpent
The Hood
Shang-Chi (enemy who becomes ally)

Iron Fist

The Hand
Bushmaster
The Maggia


Jessica Jones

Purple Man
Songbird
The Owl


The Defenders

Kingpin
The Wrecking Crew
Valkyrie (need a connect to current MCU)
Thunderbolts (Bullseye,Songbird,The Hood,Bushmaster)
 
I don't think they should use Kingpin as the big bad so early. They should build him up as a huge presence for a few seasons. I don't want to see him defeated early on and them having to use other villains in his place for other storylines.
 
Good idea for a thread!

I think the Hood would be a great villain for them to face. He's got a good mix of street level and magic going on that would be good for this section of the MCU.

Also babykhris, good list there. I think it's interesting that you put Valkyrie on there as a villain(?). Are you thinking she shows up as a villain first, then joins the team? That could sort of be a great call back to the first appearance of Valkyrie in the 616, where she was an antagonist (actually Enchantress in disguise or something like that).
 
Good idea for a thread!

I think the Hood would be a great villain for them to face. He's got a good mix of street level and magic going on that would be good for this section of the MCU.

Also babykhris, good list there. I think it's interesting that you put Valkyrie on there as a villain(?). Are you thinking she shows up as a villain first, then joins the team? That could sort of be a great call back to the first appearance of Valkyrie in the 616, where she was an antagonist (actually Enchantress in disguise or something like that).

Valkyrie isn't technically a villain.Imagine an Asgardian trashing your hood. I wanted someone with a tie to the Defenders....She eventually learns to respect The Defenders, however she came to meet with a certain Doctor.
 
Valkyrie isn't technically a villain.Imagine an Asgardian trashing your hood. I wanted someone with a tie to the Defenders....She eventually learns to respect The Defenders, however she came to meet with a certain Doctor.

Cool take. AoS is establishing several Asgardians on Earth, so I could see something like this for an adaptation for Valkyrie.
 
Definitely Gladiator, Kingpin and Bullseye - the latter two only showing up later. I would like some of DD's villains to show up in Iron Fist or another series though, and vice versa. I want it like the comics where one person's enemy becomes that of another hero.

It would be cool if, say, the Wrecking Crew beat DD in his series, but later they come up against Luke Cage or against the whole Defenders and the odds are changed completely.
 
I definitely think there will be villains crossing into other shows. Especially Kingpin. He'll be a large presence in all the shows. Have him be untouchable, just a figure that causes problems for all our heroes and slowly show more and more of him as the show goes on.
 
I'm sure Deathlok is still very early on in his transformation, give it some time and we may get the full cyborg we are hopping for.

I'm trying not to get my hopes up because I can't see how they'd go about it when they could have made things easy on themselves if they'd messed up Peterson proper from the beginning, now they'd almost have to go a ridiculous route of progressively messing him up to achieve the look.

JJmelo said:
As for a Defenders villain, I wouldn't mind seeing Graviton transition over to the Netflix shows, it will foster a deeper sense of continuity between all of the properties and bring an awesome avengers level baddie to MCU.

They have stated that it would be part of the MCU so it seems logical.

Is Tombstone with Spidey at Sony?

He made his first appearance and the majority of his appearances in Spider-Man so chances are he is with Sony.

You and everyone else needs to keep in mind that Sony also has Kingpin, the only reason he was in the original Daredevil movie is that Avi Arad struck a temporary deal with Sony to take him on loan.

If Kingpin factors into the future of the Amazing Spider-Man franchise or its spin-offs then that might not be an option.

But unlike the soulless wretches at Fox at least Sony has proven before that it can work with another company so if Kingpin and Tombstone has no place in the ASM future they could be put on loan to Marvel Studios.
 
I can almost guarantee you that Marvel has the rights to use Kingpin. They wouldn't greenlight these shows without him, I'm sure. Plus, Marvel have a much better working relationship with Sony than they do with Fox, so I'm 99% certain he'll be an integral part of this show.
 
Just reminding you that's wishful thinking at this point.
If Marvel was really committed to the character they wouldn't have downgraded him from cinematic to televised.

The character did function before Miller got involved and made Kingpin one of his major foes, albeit not in as big a way, and casting Kingpin and making him a legitimate physical threat is a hard feat to accomplish. Michael Duncan was actually a good choice, non that he's deceased I'm drawing a blank.

You'd almost have to take a big guy and make him look bigger via effects.

Plus Marvel Studios does not have the rights to Kingpin, Sony does.
They have pretty big plans for Spider-Man now, they're inspired by the world building that Marvel Studios has achieved and they are capitalizing on that and consequently they might not be as willing to part with any one of their characters.

But even if we miss out on Kingpin they could still make good use of the Owl.
 
I've the feeling that the Kingin right is in "the grey area" between Sony and Marvel, like Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch with Fox.

As for the villain in the Daredevil show (depend of how many seasons we will see) :

The Owl
Bullseye
Purple Man
Typhoid Mary
Deathstalker
Mister Fear
the Gladiator
The Kingpin
 
If Marvel was really committed to the character they wouldn't have downgraded him from cinematic to televised.

I strongly disagree. I don't see this as a downgrade, just more of a different approach. Daredevil doesn't need another movie. He works better in serialized format with more emphasis on story than spectacle.

Plus Marvel Studios does not have the rights to Kingpin, Sony does.
They have pretty big plans for Spider-Man now, they're inspired by the world building that Marvel Studios has achieved and they are capitalizing on that and consequently they might not be as willing to part with any one of their characters.

I believe Kingpin is in that grey area that SW and QS are in anyways, and could be used by both, but even if they aren't I highly doubt Sony are interested in doing Kingpin any time soon(Spider-mans rogue gallery is great) so I'm sure they wouldn't mind making a deal with Marvel for some extra $$$.

But even if we miss out on Kingpin they could still make good use of the Owl.
Owl is great but he's no Kingpin.
 
I strongly disagree. I don't see this as a downgrade, just more of a different approach. Daredevil doesn't need another movie. He works better in serialized format with more emphasis on story than spectacle.

If it's written and plotted as poorly as AoS then it is a downgrade and that's saying a lot being as how the DD movie wasn't very good, although the director's cut was enjoyable. But I'll obviously give it a chance, I'll actually be signing up for Netflix so long as the previews for it look good.

Six said:
I believe Kingpin is in that grey area that SW and QS are in anyways, and could be used by both, but even if they aren't I highly doubt Sony are interested in doing Kingpin any time soon(Spider-mans rogue gallery is great) so I'm sure they wouldn't mind making a deal with Marvel for some extra $$$.

If you take the time to look up on the internet the interview where Avi Arad explains the situation it will be clear to you that it isn't a gray area, that Sony really owns the character and that because they weren't using him for the trilogy they struck a deal with Fox.

That said I do hope you're right in that they don't have plans for him, it does seem like their Spider-Man universe will hinge more on Osborn and really from what I remember Kingpin was used more effectively in Daredevil anyways.

Six said:
Owl is great but he's no Kingpin.

True, he's much more of a psychopath.
Hope they make him really menacing looking and keep true to his look.

How do you think they'd approach the Kingpin on t.v.?
 
If it's written and plotted as poorly as AoS then it is a downgrade and that's saying a lot being as how the DD movie wasn't very good, although the director's cut was enjoyable. But I'll obviously give it a chance, I'll actually be signing up for Netflix so long as the previews for it look good.
AoS is a completely different type of show. Its an ensemble with not particularly great actors, nor a very interesting plot(so far) and the idea from the very beginning was something no one was clamouring for. With Daredevil you've got years of storylines to adapt and recognizable characters to use. I can pretty much guarantee it will be better than the DD movie, at least by a little bit.


If you take the time to look up on the internet the interview where Avi Arad explains the situation it will be clear to you that it isn't a gray area, that Sony really owns the character and that because they weren't using him for the trilogy they struck a deal with Fox.

That said I do hope you're right in that they don't have plans for him, it does seem like their Spider-Man universe will hinge more on Osborn and really from what I remember Kingpin was used more effectively in Daredevil anyways.

Yeah, I'm not worried about it, he's more than likely going to be a part of it.

True, he's much more of a psychopath.
Hope they make him really menacing looking and keep true to his look.
How do you think they'd approach the Kingpin on t.v.?
Yes, I want Owl to be a much more impulsive, psychotic crime boss in contrast with Kingpins calm and collected, strategic thinking personality. And I think they should give him a full on big beard rather than the mutton chops.
 

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