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Villains for the Netflix series

If Marvel was really committed to the character they wouldn't have downgraded him from cinematic to televised.
It works better as a TV show. You can focus stories that involve Matt Murdock's court cases as well as Daredevil stuff.

Marvel hiring a great writer (Drew Goddard) and being a Netflix show instead of ABC sounds like they're very committed.
 
AoS is a completely different type of show. Its an ensemble with not particularly great actors, nor a very interesting plot(so far) and the idea from the very beginning was something no one was clamouring for. With Daredevil you've got years of storylines to adapt and recognizable characters to use. I can pretty much guarantee it will be better than the DD movie, at least by a little bit.

God I wish that show gets better, so far it's just cheapening the magic of the entire MCU by being a part of it and is the major reason I'm being so trepidatious about my hopes for any other MCU show.

Yes, I want Owl to be a much more impulsive, psychotic crime boss in contrast with Kingpins calm and collected, strategic thinking personality. And I think they should give him a full on big beard rather than the mutton chops.

So long as he's recognizable to his comic counterpart I'll be happy.

It works better as a TV show. You can focus stories that involve Matt Murdock's court cases as well as Daredevil stuff.

Marvel hiring a great writer (Drew Goddard) and being a Netflix show instead of ABC sounds like they're very committed.

You're right, I'm just still majorly bummed out on how cheap and boring they went on one of my childhood favourites on the show.

Since this is slatted for 2015 we should be hearing of development soon.


Oh and on the vaster subject of the thread can someone tell me who Luke Cage and Jessica Jones can have as villains, did they have villains originate in their respective comics, how's that work?

I think everything mentioned so far are Daredevil rogues.
 
Daredevil

Kingpin
Owl
Bullseye
Typhoid
Elektra
Spot
Bushmaster
Mister Fear


Luke Cage

Purple Man
High Tech
Chemistro
The Hood

Iron Fist

Harold Meachum
Thunderer
Steel Serpent
 
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Oh and on the vaster subject of the thread can someone tell me who Luke Cage and Jessica Jones can have as villains, did they have villains originate in their respective comics, how's that work?

I think everything mentioned so far are Daredevil rogues.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_Man

As detailed in the series Alias, the Purple Man has since been revealed to be linked to the history of Jessica Jones.[volume & issue needed] When she was the superhero Jewel, he used his mind control powers to subdue her, forcing her to live with him while psychologically torturing her for several months. He ultimately sends her off to kill Daredevil. Mistaking the Scarlet Witch for Daredevil, Jones attacks her instead. Jones is beaten into a coma by the Avengers before they discover that she is brainwashed.[volume & issue needed]
Before helping her out of her coma, the mutant telepath Jean Grey is able to give Jones a psychic switch that prevents the Purple Man from controlling her again. When Jones recovers, the incident with Purple Man leaves her so traumatized that she leaves her life as a superhero behind and becomes a private investigator.[volume & issue needed] Later, the Purple Man escapes again and tries controlling Jessica to kill the Avengers, but she is able to resist and knocks him out. Daredevil later has the Purple Man imprisoned in the Raft, a jail designed for super-powered criminals.[volume & issue needed]
However he escapes briefly, when Electro creates a riot at the Raft. Purple Man then attempts to use the opportunity to mind control Luke Cage into killing the then soon-to-be-Avengers, and threatens Jones and the unborn child she is carrying for Cage. Unknown to the Purple Man, drugs had been put into his food to negate his powers during his imprisonment, so he is unable to control Cage, who subsequently beats him to a pulp in response to his demands.[3] Baron Zemo saves him from this beating using the moonstones, so Cage only believes himself to be beating the Purple Man.[volume & issue needed]
Later, the Purple Man returned shortly before (and during) the House of M crisis and manipulated the Thunderbolts, while being manipulated himself by Baron Zemo, who used the moonstones he had recently acquired to leave an image of Purple Man behind in prison so that the authorities would not be aware of his escape.[volume & issue needed] When Zemo, who was only using the Purple Man to "test" the Thunderbolts, learned of his torture (implied to have included rape)[4] of the Swordsman, however, he temporarily sent him back to prison as punishment.[volume & issue needed]
His power enhanced by Zemo's use of the moonstones to allow him to be heard all over New York City simultaneously, he then enslaved the whole city, using the superhumans as his personal army - except the Thunderbolts, whom he had worked to turn against each other.[volume & issue needed] Eventually, he was defeated by the Thunderbolts member Genis-Vell.[volume & issue needed] Zemo teleported the Purple Man back to him and tortured him for his failure before sending him back to prison once more.[volume & issue needed]
During the "Civil War" storyline, Purple Man is able to use the confusion to hijack a S.H.I.E.L.D. squad and flying platform to escape to Canada. He was chased by U.S. Agent, but managed to push him off the platform, severely injuring him.[volume & issue needed]
The Purple Man's status afterwards was briefly touched upon in Super-Villain Team-Up: MODOK's 11, in which he was revealed to have taken over a casino in Las Vegas.[volume & issue needed] In a flashback in New Avengers #35, he was among the villains recruited to join The Hood's crime syndicate, offered 'seeding money' to use as funds to expand the empire.[5]
During the "Scared Straight" crossover between Thunderbolts and Avengers Academy, the Purple Man is revealed to be incarcerated in the Raft Maximum Security Penitentiary, as Tigra warns her Academy students not to look at his face or read his lips.[6] During a subsequent power outage caused by Academy member Hazmat, the Purple Man, at the head of a small gang of mind-controlled inmates, again crosses paths with a lone Luke Cage, now supervisor of a Thunderbolts team composed of Raft prisoners. However, Cage makes short work of the Purple Man and his "recruits", revealing that the nanites that maintain control over his Thunderbolts also shield him from Killgrave's influence.[7]
During the "Fear Itself" storyline, Purple Man and a majority of inmates are freed after the Raft is severely damaged by the transformation of the Juggernaut into Kurrth: Breaker of Stone and the subsequent damage caused by Kurrth's escape.[8] Before escaping the Raft, the Purple Man attempts to kill a comatose Puppet Master in the prison infirmary, and makes statements indicating that he was behind the Puppet Master's manipulation of Misty Knight's Heroes for Hire organization, using them to establish a criminal organization by proxy while incarcerated. He is prevented from killing the Puppet Master by Heroes for Hire operatives Elektra and the Shroud, but Killgrave attacks the pair with a mob of mind-controlled inmates driven into a frenzy. When the heroes hold their own against the assault, the Purple Man changes tactics and turns them against each other.[9] He subsequently escapes the Raft via the Hudson River.[8]
Purple Man later began to form a new criminal empire with the help of Avalanche, Headhunter, Shocker, a new Death-Stalker, and a new Scourge
:cwink:
 
I would like to see Kingpin as a big bad arching over all of the series'. I'm thinking something like each show has it's own key villain with minor villains thrown in and Kingpin overseeing them all.

Kingpin over all, Bullseye as his personally employed assassin, who appears in all of the series at one point to tie them all together.
Typhoid Mary, primary for Daredevil
Purple Man, primary for Jessica Jones
Cult of Thanademos, primary for Iron Fist (could be an interesting turn, introducing magic, but some realism as well)
Wrecking Crew, primary for Luke Cage

Throw in (assuming they have the rights to these, I'm not 100% sure):
Johnny Ohm
Grey Gargoyle
Beetle
The Hood
The Hand, possibly

Even throw Elektra in there as another assassin for Kingpin that turns sides in The Defenders and helps take down Kingpin and the surviving primary villains in The Defenders, assuming it is these four characters.
 
I didn't include Elektra on the list because I don't really consider her to be a "villain." She's more of a morally ambiguous character. That being said, I REALLY want her to appear in these shows. Also, I wonder just how much of the Jessica Jones/Purple Man backstory Marvel would be able to get away with. Since the show's on Netflix, I'd imagine that they could push the envelop more than if it were on regular TV. But still, just how far would they go with it, it's pretty damn disturbing.
 
I would like to see Luke Cage villains

Hardcore - Caribbean mercenary working for Cruz Bushmaster (son of John)
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John Bushmaster (Powermaster) - Caribbean born Maggia associate with the same powers as Luke Cage
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Spear
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I want to see Luke Cage and Iron Fist teaming up to fight a common enemy BEFORE it gets to the Defenders mini series. I'd like at least those two to be a fighting team rather than only meeting for the first time then. At least have a crossover between the two shows.

The only problem is that they won't be filming at the same time probably, unlike say, these CSI shows where they could start a story in one show and finish it in another.
 
Oh yeah the Iron fist/ luke cage friendship is very important. I hope they meet up before the defenders show
 
Oh yeah the Iron fist/ luke cage friendship is very important. I hope they meet up before the defenders show

I expect Cage, Jones and Iron Fist will all have cameos in different episodes of Daredevil and then later on, the Luke Cage series will start to build up the friendships between the various heroes as we get closer to the Defenders miniseries.

:)
 
I would hope that we could get one season of Luke Cage and one season of Iron Fist, and then Marvel would combine that series so they are co-stars for a 2nd season. We simply haven't had the buddy movie or buddy show genre in the MCU yet and these two are the best candidates for that.
 
I would hope that we could get one season of Luke Cage and one season of Iron Fist, and then Marvel would combine that series so they are co-stars for a 2nd season. We simply haven't had the buddy movie or buddy show genre in the MCU yet and these two are the best candidates for that.

I think this would be better done under the "Heroes For Hire" rather than "Power Man & Iron Fist" banner, make it more of an ensemble thing, but still have the buddy thing going on ...... vary the focus from episode to episode.


Doing it that way gives more options for different villains and different team-up combinations to tackle them :)

I'd like it if the main series villains were...


Daredevil - Kingpin
Jessica Jones - Purple Man
Iron Fist - Master Khan
Luke Cage - Bushmaster
Defenders - The Hood


...and then in a second wave of series...

Daredevil season 2 (or Elektra?) - The Hand

Heroes For Hire - The Maggia

Defenders:Shadowlands - Daredevil/The Hand



EDIT: I want to see Ronin and Echo feature in Defenders as well :)
 
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I would hope that we could get one season of Luke Cage and one season of Iron Fist, and then Marvel would combine that series so they are co-stars for a 2nd season. We simply haven't had the buddy movie or buddy show genre in the MCU yet and these two are the best candidates for that.

I'm thinking Luke Cage is done all by himself, Iron Fist is going along with the finale having him partner with Cage to take down The Cult of Thanademos, which leads to a quick showdown, and first official appearance of the man behind everything, The Kingpin.
 
I'm thinking Luke Cage is done all by himself, Iron Fist is going along with the finale having him partner with Cage to take down The Cult of Thanademos, which leads to a quick showdown, and first official appearance of the man behind everything, The Kingpin.

Nah, Fisk will appear earlier than that, he'll be a major player in the Daredevil series, and we'll could also get to see Elektra, Bullseye, Owl (Who I think could appear in more than one of the four series) and an assortment of other New York villains (except of course those who are part of the Spider-Man franchise)

If Murdoch takes Kingpin down in his series finale, that would then leave a window for the Hood to take over and he'd be a good villain for Defenders.

...

I'm thinking now after what I just said about a second wave of series...
Daredevil season 2 (or Elektra?) - The Hand
?
Heroes For Hire - The Maggia
?
Defenders:Shadowland - Daredevil/The Hand
...that Punisher could work well as the fourth series, with Castle's family getting killed in a Maggia related incident in Daredevil and then a fleeting cameo and mentions on tv news etc in Power Man&Iron Fist/Heroes For Hire?
 
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Daredevil

Kingpin
Owl
Bullseye
Typhoid
Elektra
Spot
Bushmaster
Mister Fear

don't forget Bullet.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/0/77/87214-180102-bullet.jpg

^that's got John Goodman written all over it.

i might suggest Donal Logue (or Eddie Marsan) for a slightly tweaked Leland Owlsley http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTM5Mzc1NjI4NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNDkzMjk2._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/77/83050-36419-owl.jpg

Eliza Dushku for Typhoid Mary? Nestor Carbonell for Mr.Fear? :shrugs:
 
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That picture does look a lot like John Goodman, I have to admit lol. He's actually been getting in shape, or at least he was, so yeah bring in John Goodman

And Donal Logue seems perfect for Owl, but he might be busy with Gotham.
 
That picture does look a lot like John Goodman, I have to admit lol. He's actually been getting in shape, or at least he was, so yeah bring in John Goodman

And Donal Logue seems perfect for Owl, but he might be busy with Gotham.

oh yeah. i forgot about the gotham series.
 
Like I said, I'm pretty sure Kingpin is in the grey area, which means both can use him. I hope.
 
I would hope that we could get one season of Luke Cage and one season of Iron Fist, and then Marvel would combine that series so they are co-stars for a 2nd season. We simply haven't had the buddy movie or buddy show genre in the MCU yet and these two are the best candidates for that.
You could also build up the Luke Cage/Jessica Jones relationship before the Defenders. Then afterwards, you could combine Luke, Jessica, and Iron Fist's into one Heroes For Hire show. I feel like Daredevil is the show that is the one that's most likely/natural to continue on it's own.
 
Like I said, I'm pretty sure Kingpin is in the grey area, which means both can use him. I hope.


And like I said it really isn't but since you couldn't be bothered to do the research from what I said and chosen to keep believing what you want to believe please allow me to elucidate you.

Avi Arad said:
SHH: Does Sony have the rights to Kingpin? That was a great Spider-Man villain until Frank Miller took him for his run on Daredevil and he became known more as a Daredevil villain, appearing in that movie.
Arad:
Believe it or not, Kingpin was on loan to Daredevil, so again, anything that is part of the Spider-Man Universe or introduced in the Spider-Man Universe–without getting too legal beagle here–is an opportunity, and if we have a story that Kingpin is important, I’m sure we can handle that.

http://www.superherohype.com/featur...-with-the-producers-of-the-amazing-spider-man

July 2nd 2012
 
A lot can happen in two years. I prefer to be optimistic.
 
A lot can happen in two years. I prefer to be optimistic.

I just try to keep my fellow fans from getting their hopes.
It isn't so much optimism/pessimism it is realism.

Sure, two years have gone by and since then Sony's plans have become much clearer.
They are building a Spidey Cinematic Universe.

Avi makes it clear in his statement that any character is an opportunity. He makes it clear that if there is a story to tell within the Spiderverse featuring Kingpin it will be told.

He's taken a cue from the MCU and will move forward accordingly. Kingpin might have been usurped by Miller for Daredevil and it can be argued that more compelling stories came from it but from a business perspective Sony and Arad could give a crap less.

Just like Fox could give a crap less if the Fantastic Four would fit better in the MCU than their convoluted attempt at a movie universe.

Bottom line is Spider-Man movies will keep making money and this time they aren't going for the reboot, part 2 will come out then the Sinister Six, Venom, and part 3 of ASM and after the threat of Oscorp is properly milked they might move on to the Maggia, Silvermane, Kingpin, Hammerhead, Tombstone and that sort of a tone.

Lending out a character that could benefit them to a series that might stretch a few seasons and across a few years means that they couldn't use said character, and honestly I don't see that happening.

I'm sorry, but despite that hack Loeb being involved in this I have enough faith in Netflix and Marvel in general to hope that they'll make something good regardless of a few setbacks.
 

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