The Dark Knight Rises Villains you most want to see in sequels? (Post fan art if yee wish)

[Dark Knight]

The more I think about it.....the more I keep thinking Robin Williams would be a kick ass mobster/club owner type Cobblepot/Penguin!

 

[Dark Knight]

Villains I would like to see.

Riddler and Black Mask as the main heavies.

Deadshot and Penguin in supporting roles much like how Scarecrow, Earle, Falcone and Maroni were used in BB and TDK.

I want to see Catwoman be the wild card. I don't consider her a "villain" per say.

 

[DCW]

Mine's very similar to that:

I'd like Black Mask and Riddler to be the main villains similar to Joker/Dent, Two Face size rolls.

I'd also like Catwoman to be the love interest, wildcard. And Oswald Cobblepot to be a cameo/supporting mob boss.

Black Mask: Clive Owen
The Riddler: Johnny Depp
Catwoman: Marion Cotillard
Cobblepot: Phillip Seymour Hoffman or Robin Williams

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[LightningFlash]

Main villains: Black Mask trying to run the gangs and corporations at once, and Riddler as his hired "muscle"(but in the sense as a computer hacker/terrorist, not actual muscle, lol). BM has Riddler steal all of the gang's money, while also trying to out-buy Wayne Industries/Wayne Corp./whatever it's called this time and trying to become the richest and most powerful man in Gotham City.

Minor villains: Rupert Thorne and Oswald Cobblepot as gang leaders; Thorne is a regular gang leader(and there could also be room for new characters, as TDK had The Chechen and Gambol), and Cobblepot becomes a gang leader of "advanced" criminals, i.e., Scarecrow, Deadshot, Hush(all in cameos of course, or perhaps they could be in a fight with Batman at least once).

And as for Selina Kyle, I'd rather see her as a love interest, and not necessarily as Catwoman, although there can be hints of her alter-ego, as in she could have more than one cat as her pet, she could say something about a leather fetish, et cetera.

 

[Dark Knight]

Catwoman- as love interest/anti heroine/wildcard, not a TRUE villain per say.

Riddler- as the heavy baddie.

Black Mask- as a heavy baddie, cultish dark mob boss.

Cobblepot/Penguin- as a minor supporting villain as shady underworld/club owner/mob boss/arms dealer

Deadshot- in a minor, yet important supporting villain role as the mysterious hitman/assassin hired to kill Batman by Black Mask and who is his muscle.

 

[Doctor Who]

Perhaps anybody for David Bowie in the series? I loved him as Tesla in Prestige, and think it'd be awesome to see him in another Nolan film; if not, one of his Batman films.

 

[Eddie Nashton]

Perhaps anybody for David Bowie in the series? I loved him as Tesla in Prestige, and think it'd be awesome to see him in another Nolan film; if not, one of his Batman films.

may sound dumb to some but I always thought he'd make a good Detective John Jones.

 

[Dark Knight]

Catwoman- as love interest/anti heroine/wildcard, not a TRUE villain per say.

Riddler- as the heavy baddie.

Black Mask- as a heavy baddie, cultish dark mob boss.

Cobblepot/Penguin- as a minor supporting villain as shady underworld/club owner/mob boss/arms dealer

Deadshot- in a minor, yet important supporting villain role as the mysterious hitman/assassin hired to kill Batman by Black Mask and who is his muscle.

In this scenario....I can see Black Mask and Penguin possibly battling for control of the mobs and Black Mask or Riddler eventually killing Penguin?

 

[NEXUS 6]

Tom Hardy if Black Mask is used.
JGL for Riddler (although I'd love him in a Joker/Arkham epilogue scene).

 

[ico]

Wow, I didn't think Poison Ivy would have such a low percentage in the poll. Always figured she was pretty popular.

 

[Dark Knight]

The more I think about it, the more I keep thinking Tom Hardy would be great as Deadshot or Black Mask.

I heard JGL's interview during the premiere of Inception overseas where he said Hardy has good hand to hand fighting skills. Hearing that makes me think he would be a perfect physical challenge for Batman as the hitman/assassin Deadshot!

 

[TourettesHaiku]

The Reaper and Hush would be my outside bets for villains in B3.

 

[Hole Shot]

Deadshot and Penguin in supporting roles much like how Scarecrow, Earle, Falcone and Maroni were used in BB and TDK.

I'd like to see Penguin in the same capacity as well. He could work really well in the Nolan verse if he takes another look at the character. I really think he had Danny DeVito on his mind when he expressed his sentiments regarding that character in his films.

 

[maenalus]

Rupert Thorne as corrupt city councilman would be good. I'm hoping they present a more brutally evil and corrupt city government, where there's no line between the mob and officialdom. As for other baddies I'd like to see; Hugo Strange, Prof. Milo and Killer Croc.

 

[maenalus]

I'm reticent about Catwoman being in the Nolanverse because I like her best as a more lighthearted and fun foil for Batman. And with this being the final chapter in a very grim telling of the character, I expect and want things to be very heavy.

 

[RustyCage]

The more I think about it.....the more I keep thinking Robin Williams would be a kick ass mobster/club owner type Cobblepot/Penguin!

I agree man. I think he could totally pull off a scarier, less camp sort of Burgess Meredith thing. He's also got a unique nose that's kind of big and pointy, so that works too!

(Although I'd be pretty interested in his version of the Riddler..)

 

[aty990]

Have to say, this is probably the best Batman 3 fan-made teaser poster I've ever seen.

 

[semper]

I think the multiple villain per thing is getting a bit played out. Two-Face deserved to be more than a relatively minor sideshow (and I thought Aarron Eckheart did a great job) to the Joker in The Dark Knight. A bad guy the level of Two-Face should be the main villain in the film.

My personal feeling. One villlain this time. And I'm not sure any of Batman's regular rougues gallery cut the mustard in Nolanverse. Do people really want to see Johnny Depp as The Riddler camping it up in Nolanverse like it's a Tim Burton fantasy?

I think Batman needs a realistic villain, who is a mastermind/intellect, as well as a physyical equal to Batman (so we can actually get some decent fight scenes, not Batman kicking the ass of some henchmen). Bane sort of fits the bill, but his treatment in the Schumacher films left an awful taste in everyone's mouth. And I don't think there's a good enough actor out there who looks like a bodybuilder, who can shoulder the role.

I know he's mainly a Titans villain (though he has fought Batman several times), but I think Deathstroke The Terminator could work in Nolanverse . His powers are not too extreme (they don't even have to mention his powers. Just show him as a badass mercenary with extreme fighting skills, a sword and some guns). Deathstroke has the physical ability to knock the crap out of Batman, but Slade Wilson is also enough of an evil genius to be more than just a physical opponent. I think someone like Deathstroke could work in a similar fashion to how they used Ra's Al Gul in Batman Begins....I do believe they could even show flashbacks of Deathstroke giving Bruce training at some point when he was wandering the world looking for instruction. Then Deathstroke comes to Gotham....possibly to assasinate a "mark" (maybe Lucius Fox) and that brings him into conflict with his old student, Bruce.

My choice for Deathstroke. After seeing The Book Of Eli, Denzel Washington. Right age for Slade, but more importantly, not only is he an awesome actor, but his fight scenes in The Book Of Eli were awesome. Never knew he had it in him. But he was slicing up enemies with his sword, just like I imagine Deathstroke would. If Nolan could take a cue from what the Hughes Brothers did with Denzel in The Book Of Eli, he could really up the ante for the fight scenes in the next film.

Another reason Deathstroke would be good, is because I don't think going the "psycho" villlain route again would be as effective. They've already used Batman's two greatest psychotic villains (Joker and Two-Face), and nobody is going to top Heath Ledger's Joker, so I prefer it if they went with a sane but deadly badass like Slade.

 

[ico]

Another reason Deathstroke would be good, is because I don't think going the "psycho" villlain route again would be as effective. They've already used Batman's two greatest psychotic villains (Joker and Two-Face), and nobody is going to top Heath Ledger's Joker, so I prefer it if they went with a sane but deadly badass like Slade.

No offence, but if Nolan were to only use one villain in B3, it most certainly would not be a minor villain who is primarily from a different series. Besides the fact that most people will have never heard of him, a "sane" lone villain would seem like a huge anti-climax for the finalé, in my opinion at least.

 

[aty990]

I think the multiple villain per thing is getting a bit played out. Two-Face deserved to be more than a relatively minor sideshow (and I thought Aaron Eckhart did a great job) to the Joker in The Dark Knight. A bad guy the level of Two-Face should be the main villain in the film.

My personal feeling. One villlain this time. And I'm not sure any of Batman's regular rogues gallery cut the mustard in Nolan-verse. Do people really want to see Johnny Depp as The Riddler camping it up in Nolan-verse like it's a Tim Burton fantasy?

Depp is an extremely viable actor, whom had played a number of different roles. He still could play a serious Riddler, even playing the wild fantasy that's Tim Burton's. That being said, I do not think that he should receive the role.

I think Batman needs a realistic villain, who is a mastermind/intellect, as well as a physical equal to Batman (so we can actually get some decent fight scenes, not Batman kicking the ass of some henchmen).

Bane definitely fits the bill but I think that the other villain you're thinking is Mr. Freeze. I really do not want to see Freeze, again. Not, yet.

 

[semper]

No offence, but if Nolan were to only use one villain in B3, it most certainly would not be a minor villain who is primarily from a different series. Besides the fact that most people will have never heard of him, a "sane" lone villain would seem like a huge anti-climax for the finalé, in my opinion at least.

As opposed to another "psycho" who would inevitably be regarded as a poor man's Heath Ledger?

Who the cares if "most people" have never heard of Deathstroke. Outside of hardcore comic fans, nobody had heard of Ra's Al Ghul, and he was the main villain of the first movie. Deathstroke works in the context of Nolanverse, and that's what matters most. People will know him after they see him.

Deathstroke is not a "minor villain". These days, he doesn't even really belong specfically to the Titans rogue gallery. He's considered so awesome, that he's basically a general "DC Universe" villain, like Darkseid. Deathstroke takes on the likes of the JLA.....and beats them, alone. Deathstroke is one of the most respected and feared DC universe villains. And he does usually beat Batman. He is a Batman villain as well...he's just enough of a threat to be everyone else's villain as well, which most of Batman's gallery are not.

And frankly, Christian Bale/Batman doesn't need to be overshadowed by another nutjob. Batman Begins was one of the strongest portrayals of Batman/Bruce Wayne, because were weren't paying too much attention to a scene stealing psycho. Batman felt like a supporting character in The Dark Knight. I want to see another film that's actually about Batman, not one of his nutjobs. So yeah, I'd like them to go back for a relatively sane bad guy like Ra's Al Ghul.

I don't think it'd be anti-climatic at all. Nolan could play on the whole duality theme from the other films, and have Deathstroke and Wayne play as mirror images of each other....it can be intimate and more of a physocological study of Bruce again. I don't think they should try and go "bigger" or more "epic" with the third movie. That usually ends up in disappointment (see X-Men: The Last Stand or Spider-Man 3, where they seemed to think bigger equalled better. And they were the worst films of the series).

 

[aty990]

As opposed to another "psycho" who would inevitably be regarded as a poor man's Heath Ledger?

Who the cares if "most people" have never heard of Deathstroke.

I think that mentality is justifiable considering that Batman 3 will be a cash-grab, anyways. However, I do not agree with throwing just any villain into the movie without proper thought, which, I am assuming is not your
outlook, either.

 

[semper]

I think that mentality is justifiable considering that Batman 3 will be a cash-grab, anyways. However, I do not agree with throwing just any villain into the movie without proper thought, which, I am assuming is not your
outlook, either.

Definitely my outlook.

I agree with your earlier assertion that Bane would fit the bill of the kind of villain I'm talking about. And again, the duality theme can be worked between Bruce and Bane as well. I think Deathstroke works a bit better because his whole military/mercenary background and the fact that he's much older than Bruce, makes him an ideal "mentor" figure for Bruce, giving their relationship more meaning. I don't think I would like to see them making Bane one of Wayne's teachers or mentors, as they are a similar age.

Hush would be decent as well. He's somewhat psycho, but I think there's more focus on him being a mastermind than a nutjob. I think Hush is physically capable as well.

 

[ico]

As opposed to another "psycho" who would inevitably be regarded as a poor man's Heath Ledger?

You seem to be tarring every "psycho" villain with the same brush here. Just because they are insane does not mean they would be compared to Heath's Joker. The Riddler, for example, could be explored in an entirely different way to The Joker.

Who the cares if "most people" have never heard of Deathstroke. Outside of hardcore comic fans, nobody had heard of Ra's Al Ghul, and he was the main villain of the first movie. Deathstroke works in the context of Nolanverse, and that's what matters most. People will know him after they see him.

Quite frankly, I'm sure the Producers would care. Ra's Al Ghul is a different story, he was never promoted or pushed into the publicity side because, like you said, nobody knew who he was, but the producers could rely on the excitement of a Batman reboot, and the Scarecrow, to draw people. Quite frankly, if all the producers had to rely on this time around to publicise B3 was one villain; Deathstroke, then I would imagine they'd find this hard to contend with. How do you publicise a movie on the back of a villain that nobody has heard of, and so, would not care about?

Deathstroke is not a "minor villain". These days, he doesn't even really belong specfically to the Titans rogue gallery. He's considered so awesome, that he's basically a general "DC Universe" villain, like Darkseid. Deathstroke takes on the likes of the JLA.....and beats them, alone. Deathstroke is one of the most respected and feared DC universe villains. And he does usually beat Batman. He is a Batman villain as well...he's just enough of a threat to be everyone else's villain as well, which most of Batman's gallery are not.

As far as I'm concerned, Deathstroke can do whatever the hell he likes with the JLA, and whoever such he takes on. That fact he is considered so "awesome" by a niché group of fans does not make him quality material to be used in the third and finale Nolan Batman movie. Plus, at the end of the day, people will want to see a full on Batman villain, not a guy who dips his toes into every DC comic going. I'm sure Batman fans would rather have any villain from the bulk of Batman's rogues gallery than Deathstroke be the core villain for B3.

And frankly, Christian Bale/Batman doesn't need to be overshadowed by another nutjob. Batman Begins was one of the strongest portrayals of Batman/Bruce Wayne, because were weren't paying too much attention to a scene stealing psycho. Batman felt like a supporting character in The Dark Knight. I want to see another film that's actually about Batman, not one of his nutjobs. So yeah, I'd like them to go back for a relatively sane bad guy like Ra's Al Ghul.

Again, you're painting all the insane villains with the same brush. Just because they're psycho's does not mean they would be overshadowing Batman at every turn. To use The Riddler as an example yet again, he could easily be used as foil to explore Batman's mentality. If Scarecrow were re-used (though 99% won't be) again, so much of Batman could be explored through fears, etc. So to re-iterate my point, just because they're insane, doesn't mean that they will be automatically overshadowing Batman.

I don't think it'd be anti-climatic at all. Nolan could play on the whole duality theme from the other films, and have Deathstroke and Wayne play as mirror images of each other....it can be intimate and more of a physocological study of Bruce again. I don't think they should try and go "bigger" or more "epic" with the third movie. That usually ends up in disappointment (see X-Men: The Last Stand or Spider-Man 3, where they seemed to think bigger equalled better. And they were the worst films of the series).

I completely agree on the notion that Nolan should steer clear of going out of his way to be "bigger" or "more epic" than the last movies. That's almost always a kiss of death. And I can also agree on the idea that a duality theme would be very interesting, though already done before with Ra's. And as previously mentioned, a psychological study on Bats could be achieved with numerous Batman villains; Catwoman, Riddler, Scarecrow, even Bane, as he could be considered pretty much the same fodder as Deathstroke; intelligent and deadly.

 

[aty990]

I think Deathstroke works a bit better because his whole military/mercenary background and the fact that he's much older than Bruce, makes him an ideal "mentor" figure for Bruce, giving their relationship more meaning. I don't think I would like to see them making Bane one of Wayne's teachers or mentors, as they are a similar age.

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