The Dark Knight Rises Villains you most want to see in sequels? (Post fan art if yee wish)

[Spike_x1]

1) His plan wasnt all that smart. He basically had batman chase down all his rogues for two weeks without stop, without sleep, and then he beat him up when he could barely stand from exhaustion. Bane is a *****.

I actually agree with everything except the last sentence of this statement. Bane's plan in Knightfall wasn't as ingenious as most of his fans make it out to be (although he had some good moments, like figuring out Batman was Bruce Wayne just by recognizing his movements and such), so when searching for examples of Bane's intellect, I instead try to point people to Vengeance of Bane II, his appearances in No Man's Land, or Bane of the Demon. I'd point to Secret Six as well, where he's been perfectly fine, but hasn't done much to show off his intellect as impressively as he has in past stories.

2) I just cant buy that a guy who is so full of muscles and wears that ridiculous Mexican wrestling costume can be that smart. I mean he can, but i cant take him seriously. You can either be a mountain of muscles, or you can be smart. If he is that smart, why does he need his venom?

He doesn't need venom. I take it you didn't read my post before? Venom was just an Achilles heal to be exploited in one storyarc. It was a one-time plot device meant to serve as his downfall. He quit the drug immediately after Knightfall concluded because he recognized that being so dependent on it was a HUGE weakness that he couldn't afford to have any longer.

Who wrote that fanservice to Bane? Bane himself? God, WTF is this crap?

What exactly is your problem with it? Is it the fact that it doesn't conform to your idea that Bane isn't that capable or smart? Newsflash: Bane has always been that smart and resourceful, despite what you might think. If his confrontation with Ra's had ended any other way, it would probably have been pretty uncharacteristic for both of them.

It's one thing to not like the same characters that other people like. That's fine. Different strokes for different folks and all that. But your negative opinion on Bane seems to be based and some pretty inaccurate assumptions about his character.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

1)You can either be a mountain of muscles, or you can be smart.

Tell that to Dolph "Masters Degree in Chemical Enginering" Lundgren.

t:

 

[Mr. Earle]

I actually agree with everything except the last sentence of this statement. Bane's plan in Knightfall wasn't as ingenious as most of his fans make it out to be (although he had some good moments, like figuring out Batman was Bruce Wayne just by recognizing his movements and such), so when searching for examples of Bane's intellect, I instead try to point people to Vengeance of Bane II, his appearances in No Man's Land, or Bane of the Demon. I'd point to Secret Six as well, where he's been perfectly fine, but hasn't done much to show off his intellect as impressively as he has in past stories.

I was talking about Knightfall because i havent read all these other stories. At least in Knightfall he was a *****. Anyone can take on any superhero after ALL of his rogues gallery has softened him up.

What exactly is your problem with it? Is it the fact that it doesn't conform to your idea that Bane isn't that capable or smart? Newsflash: Bane has always been that smart and resourceful, despite what you might think. If his confrontation with Ra's had ended any other way, it would probably have been pretty uncharacteristic for both of them.

I didnt like how he made Ras his *****.

I'm really crossing my fingers for The Ventriloquist and Scarface along with Riddler and Catwoman of course.

I think he would be a great addition, as a villian trying to gain control of Gotham territory now that a lot (hopefully most, also crossing my fingers that Maroni died in the car crash)of the mob is dead from Joker.

He's also one of the freaks that's not too "out there" for Nolan to use.

Chris Nolan is shocked!!! t:

 

[Spike_x1]

I was talking about Knightfall because i havent read all these other stories. At least in Knightfall he was a *****. Anyone can take on any superhero after ALL of his rogues gallery has softened him up.

Yeah, it's pretty obvious that you haven't read Bane's other stories, which is why I'm puzzled as to how you can pass judgment on stories like Bane of the Demon, which actually explores his character and what he can do, moreso than in Knightfall.

I didnt like how he made Ras his *****.

Except Ra's won the fight. Completely wiped the floor with him, in fact. The thing is that Ra's, apparently like yourself, underestimated Bane's intelligence throughout the story and was therefore outsmarted at the end, resulting in a draw between the two men. Why would it have gone any other way, taking into account how intelligent Bane is, and how arrogant Ra's Al Ghul can be?

 

[Mr. Earle]

Yeah, it's pretty obvious that you haven't read Bane's other stories, which is why I'm puzzled as to how you can pass judgment on stories like Bane of the Demon, which actually explores his character and what he can do, moreso than in Knightfall.

I like i said in the previous page (i think it was a reply to Regwec) i havent read much of Bane so that might be why i dont really like him. So i am not really passing judgement, just expressing my indifference towards him. But even if i read more and come to love him, he'll still be a ***** in Knightfall.

"Hey Darkseid, Metallo, Lex, Doomsday, etc. Would you be so kind as to beat Superman up for like a week so that i can break his back? I am so awesome!"

Except Ra's won the fight. Completely wiped the floor with him, in fact. The thing is that Ra's, apparently like yourself, underestimated Bane's intelligence throughout the story and was therefore outsmarted at the end, resulting in a draw between the two men. Why would it have gone any other way, taking into account how intelligent Bane is, and how arrogant Ra's Al Ghul can be?

Yeah, Ras wiped the floor with him, so i guess i can forgive the fact that Bane outsmarted him. That said, i just cant understand why Ras is so eager to find someone to bone his daughter. Shouldnt it be the other way around?

 

[Spike_x1]

I like i said in the previous page (i think it was a reply to Regwec) i havent read much of Bane so that might be why i dont really like him. So i am not really passing judgement, just expressing my indifference towards him. But even if i read more and come to love him, he'll still be a ***** in Knightfall.

Who wrote that fanservice to Bane? Bane himself? God, WTF is this crap?

Kinda looks like you're passing judgment on it.

 

[RickyWild86]

These are villains I'd liked to see and who should play them:

The Riddler:Johnnny Depp has admitted that he is open to the idea if they ask him to.Eminem is a likely but unlikely choice for the Riddler,he even said he'd like to play the Riddler.


The Penguin: I think James Gandolfini would be an excellent choice for this role. His brutal mob attitude, and his raw emotion portrayed on sopranos. he would be a great choice.

If you all agree with me, lets spread the word an try to make something happen. if you dnt agree, hopefully you will come around haha. Thank you.

 

[Figs]

I know he is, its just that his plan in Knightfall wasnt that ingenius. And i cant say that i have read/watched any good stories with him so maybe that's another reason why i dont like him.

But i've heard that he's very good in Secret Six.

I don't get why you don't think his idea was smart or "ingenious".

Think of it this way.

Throughout the years all of Batman's enemies have gotten their asses handed to them. Even if some have given him a beating, Batman still beats their ass in the end.

Bane did the best thing possible for a powerhouse like Batman. Why would he try to take down a legend like that at full strength and stamina, with that kind of reputation?

He wore him down for a sure victory. Of course since he's the title character they wouldn't kill him off(this recent R.I.P. arc doesn't count since we know he's not really dead) and Bane would lose in the end but it was a smart move on his part.

I'm guessing you just wanted him to take Batman on with a one-on-one style match without Batman being worn down. That's understandable but when you think about how smart, athletic and all around hardcore Batman is, Bane was smart enough to realize that he might not stand a chance by himself. He basically did what most if not all villains never tried. It's because of that, that he deserves a lot of credit.

 

[Mr. Earle]

I don't get why you don't think his idea was smart or "ingenious".

Think of it this way.

Throughout the years all of Batman's enemies have gotten their asses handed to them. Even if some have given him a beating, Batman still beats their ass in the end.

Bane did the best thing possible for a powerhouse like Batman. Why would he try to take down a legend like that at full strength and stamina, with that kind of reputation?

He wore him down for a sure victory. Of course since he's the title character they wouldn't kill him off(this recent R.I.P. arc doesn't count since we know he's not really dead) and Bane would lose in the end but it was a smart move on his part.

I'm guessing you just wanted him to take Batman on with a one-on-one style match without Batman being worn down. That's understandable but when you think about how smart, athletic and all around hardcore Batman is, Bane was smart enough to realize that he might not stand a chance by himself. He basically did what most if not all villains never tried. It's because of that, that he deserves a lot of credit.

Bane was supposedly a great fighter himself so i dont see why he took the easy way. Sure, his plan made it easy for him, but it wasnt a plan fit for a genius that they were making him out to be. In fact its weird that all this time no one else had thought of it first.

 

[Harley Quinn13]

I'd love to see Harley Quinn in a sequal. Seeing how they would make her costume and handle her character all together would be interesting. Sadly, I'll never get to see a Harley Quinn for Heath Ledger's Joker...

 

[misjuevos]

the killer croc from batman arkham asylum game really was creepy. i would like to see that. he was a serial killer, just all around creepy.

 

[Figs]

Bane was supposedly a great fighter himself so i dont see why he took the easy way. Sure, his plan made it easy for him, but it wasnt a plan fit for a genius that they were making him out to be. In fact its weird that all this time no one else had thought of it first.

Exactly. I'm surprised the Joker never thought of it, with his intelligence and being a criminal mastermind. Then again, he wouldn't want to take the chance of one of Batman's other villians taking the kill away from him.

 

[baleheadbrasil]

Tell that to Dolph "Masters Degree in Chemical Enginering" Lundgren.

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Lundgren is not just a mountain of muscles...he is very intellligent.
His QI is 160.

 

[Keyser Soze]

This is incredibly unlikely, considering how new a creation he is, but I find myself kinda really wanting Professor Pyg to show up in the third film.

I just think the guy is utterly terrifying. But also kind of hilarious too. I don't see him being a main villain, but it's the kind of dark villain that might fit in amidst the backdrop of Nolan's Gotham.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict Hush. It seems like it would be up Nolan's alley. He is down to Earth enough that he works in the Nolan-verse and is one of the ones that no one would see coming.

If you'd suggested this a couple of years ago, I'd have strongly disagreed. Hush, when he was created, just wasn't a great character. Jeph Loeb was trying to force him as a major player, and I and a lot of other readers just weren't buying it. But with his stellar work in Heart of Hush and beyond, Paul Dini has not only rehabilitated Hush, but managed against to odds to make him one of the more compelling foes in Batman's rogues gallery, and actually worthy of all that early hype.

 

[Mr. Earle]

If you'd suggested this a couple of years ago, I'd have strongly disagreed. Hush, when he was created, just wasn't a great character. Jeph Loeb was trying to force him as a major player, and I and a lot of other readers just weren't buying it. But with his stellar work in Heart of Hush and beyond, Paul Dini has not only rehabilitated Hush, but managed against to odds to make him one of the more compelling foes in Batman's rogues gallery, and actually worthy of all that early hype.

100% agreed.
Besides, Nolan will not adapt the him to the letter, so he can always fix Hush's character problems. I think he has a lot of potential and a great design. Does anyone know who designed him? Was it Lee?

 

[Spider-Kurt!]

Exactly. I'm surprised the Joker never thought of it, with his intelligence and being a criminal mastermind. Then again, he wouldn't want to take the chance of one of Batman's other villians taking the kill away from him.

While I agree,let me point out that Ra's Al Ghul actually did something simular first...
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Batman_Vol_1_400

 

[Figs]

While I agree,let me point out that Ra's Al Ghul actually did something simular first...
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Batman_Vol_1_400

I stand corrected. Never read that issue before.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Nolan likes villains with a lot to say, with a philosophy, and with a clear goal. He likes them to be intelligent, able to plan ahead, and able to outwit Batman and everyone else. And he likes them to be based in reality as much as possible.

The villains of the previous films have come to Gotham with elaborate plans to wreak havoc, not just for the fun of it or for revenge, but because they have a lot of reasoning behind it.

Therefore, it seems that the Riddler really is the obvious candidate.

 

[gusdlt]

Professor Pyg would be awesome... Not likely, but it would be great to see him as a villain

 

[TheScarecrow]

Nolan likes villains with a lot to say, with a philosophy, and with a clear goal. He likes them to be intelligent, able to plan ahead, and able to outwit Batman and everyone else. And he likes them to be based in reality as much as possible.

The villains of the previous films have come to Gotham with elaborate plans to wreak havoc, not just for the fun of it or for revenge, but because they have a lot of reasoning behind it.

Therefore, it seems that the Riddler really is the obvious candidate.

That's true...of Ra's. Other than that, there's not a shred of truth in it. Scarecrow was in it for the money/power of experimenting on his villains - he never intended what Ra's was planning. Joker was just having fun, even if there was a philosophy behind it. Two-Face was just on a rampage.

 

[redhawk23]

That's true...of Ra's. Other than that, there's not a shred of truth in it. Scarecrow was in it for the money/power of experimenting on his villains - he never intended what Ra's was planning. Joker was just having fun, even if there was a philosophy behind it. Two-Face was just on a rampage.

My thoughts exactly

 

[SuperT]

This is incredibly unlikely, considering how new a creation he is, but I find myself kinda really wanting Professor Pyg to show up in the third film.

I just think the guy is utterly terrifying. But also kind of hilarious too. I don't see him being a main villain, but it's the kind of dark villain that might fit in amidst the backdrop of Nolan's Gotham.

Uuuh, why does he look like he's "droppin' it like it's hot" in that last picture?!?!

 

[Keyser Soze]

Uuuh, why does he look like he's "droppin' it like it's hot" in that last picture?!?!

The scene gets worse - he proceeds to give a tied-up Robin a lapdance.

 

[TheBatman072]

I'm so glad that thing has no chance of making it into a Nolan Batman film.