Visualizing A Superman Reboot: Pictures Welcome

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Apellation said:
Just because you didn't care doesn't mean no-one else did. You can't honestly say no-one was scared for Richard & Jason when they were trapped in the ship. I could cut the fear in the theater with a knife.

That's one scene. Of course no one wanted to see them drown. I thought we were talking about the characters in general. I just don't think people fell in love with Richard as you said. You didn't mention that scene in your earlier post. You simply mentioned an emotional attachment with Richard. I certainly agree that in that one scene, people felt for them.

But, how many people out of 100 would care if Richard came back for a sequel?
 
Some suggestions:

1) Lois and Clark working together on a case, investigating some guys, maybe bring in Morgan Edge (as Lex's ally, while he's in prison).

2) A (Super)Villain with some brain. Guess who that could be? ... ;)

3) A well thought out story that not only makes sense but builds up a climax for the end.

4) Bring in some other DC characters - like Shazam or GL (OK, just dreaming here ...)
 
Kid_Kaos said:
4) Bring in some other DC characters - like Shazam or GL (OK, just dreaming here ...)
I want Lantern to have his own movie.
 
I do believe most people want at least one big fight with major destruction and major bashing.
 
I think the movje was fine. Its just that WB threw in more money than what it needed. Plus, I think the main flaw is that it reintroduced the things that people, who don't read the comics, already knew about thanks to Smallville.

And the backstory, what was kept and what wasn't from the first two films, was confusing for many.
 
Binker said:
I think the movje was fine. Its just that WB threw in more money than what it needed. Plus, I think the main flaw is that it reintroduced the things that people, who don't read the comics, already knew about thanks to Smallville.

And the backstory, what was kept and what wasn't from the first two films, was confusing for many.

Also the fact that the plot was terrible, the acting wasn't that good, and there wasn't anything new or original about the movie is why it failed to reach the target audiance.
 
BareKnucklez said:
Also the fact that the plot was terrible, the acting wasn't that good, and there wasn't anything new or original about the movie is why it failed to reach the target audiance.
If those things you said were true, then SR would not have made nearly as much as it had. SR underperformed, not bombed, and most movies as terrible as you are painting SR to be make considerably less than SR made.
 
If I knew, I´d produce movies and be a kagillionaire...
 
To be honest , the mass audience could care less about a faithful to the comics superman.

All they want to a quality flick for their money which includes :
1 Good solid action scenes which haven't been done and/or are better then the previous movie in a related genre...in this case Spiderman 2 and Matrix Revolutions

2 Good acting without it being too complicated or forced.

3 A movie that doesn't have pacing problems and basically keeps them entertained

That's it really.
 
hmm maybe

I just think the audience wants something they've never seen before or own on dvd already.
 
Precisely.
I mean especially with blockbusters , each movie is tryint to be better then hte previous one in terms of action ..and story and acting .


Supes while great on the realism of NK , the plane rescue and the saving of metropolis , doesn't give you anything original.

I mean take Spidey 2 for example. Here you have 1) spiderman fighting Doc Ock and 2) having to save a subway from crashing .
Heck they're doing for or less the same thing for spidey 3
You have 1) spidey stopping a bankrobbery 2) while fighting sandman 3) and also participating in a car chase.
Even tough it has similar things , it's combines them for something new.

Did Sr have that ? No. Plane Resuce -> better version of the helicopter rescue.
Supes lifting NK in space -> countless shots of superman lifting heavy stuff,
Supes saving the city -> how many times has he not done that in the earlier movies .

I mean we are going back to the same old disucssed topic which is superman fighting a supervillain.
But again , it's important for the makers to go back to the comics because
1) you can choose a solid villain
2) you know what the villain can do in terms of action and destruction
3) you get a free backstory as opposed to creating a entirely new villain
4) finally you get do finally do something new because the action of a superman fighting a superhero villain in in many ways greater and more epic then the spiderman movies so far.
 
matrix_ghost said:
Precisely.
I mean especially with blockbusters , each movie is tryint to be better then hte previous one in terms of action ..and story and acting .


Supes while great on the realism of NK , the plane rescue and the saving of metropolis , doesn't give you anything original.

I mean take Spidey 2 for example. Here you have 1) spiderman fighting Doc Ock and 2) having to save a subway from crashing .
Heck they're doing for or less the same thing for spidey 3
You have 1) spidey stopping a bankrobbery 2) while fighting sandman 3) and also participating in a car chase.
Even tough it has similar things , it's combines them for something new.

Did Sr have that ? No. Plane Resuce -> better version of the helicopter rescue.
Supes lifting NK in space -> countless shots of superman lifting heavy stuff,
Supes saving the city -> how many times has he not done that in the earlier movies .

I mean we are going back to the same old disucssed topic which is superman fighting a supervillain.
But again , it's important for the makers to go back to the comics because
1) you can choose a solid villain
2) you know what the villain can do in terms of action and destruction
3) you get a free backstory as opposed to creating a entirely new villain
4) finally you get do finally do something new because the action of a superman fighting a superhero villain in in many ways greater and more epic then the spiderman movies so far.

yeah.....

PLUS, if they REALLY wanted to have a Luthor that DOES overwhelm Superman's might with his wits, he shouldve been like Jigsaw in the SAW movies....put superman in situations where supes would feel that his might would be useless in solving the solution

In SR, Luthor expected Supes to be dumb enough to go headlong into a kryptonite island without ever analyzing the situation
 
That's what i really disliked about SR.
I mean for me at least , if i were Horn , i'd really be critical about the ideas and script delivered by Singer , HArris and that other dude.
But at the same time . not reject the script but improve on it. Bring on some other (comic) writers and see follow the same line presented in SR but build on exisiting things.

For example :
The scene where Lex gives his prometheus speech. Imagine lex giving that speech to a big crowd as a politician

The scene where he talks about Mind Over Muscle. Needs to be explored more.

~sigh~. Wasted Oppurtunities :csad:
 
Something I've noticed from various places including this own forum.

1. The sequel must include Brainiac or fans are gonna be pissed.
2. Fans want a physical villain for Superman to fight. Everyone and their mother is screaming for Metallo to make it on screen and see Supes throw some punches.

What else do you believe fans have made clear they want in the sequel?

Thing is, if Singer gives the majority what they/we want, there is no way the sequel will fail. "Superman: Man of Steel" btw is the preferred title by most fans, just a note incase Singer gets wind of this ;)
 
I think fans also made it clear they wanted a deeper look into how he became Superman.

Also there is a huge interest in knowing what Krypton once was.

The only thing I can think of is maybe really old flashbacks, which have a younger Jor-el allowing someone other than Brando to play him so it won't tread on what's been done.
 
I want complete dissasociation with the donner franchise. The past is the past, its time to move the heck on already.

Batman's doing it. Supes deserves it even more.

NO ZOD

Even though hes awesome and I loved the little munchkin. No jason. We don't need that **** yet.

Comics > Donner, as far as which makes the greatest influence on supes. It MUST be this way.

NO MORE WIGS. I NEVER had a problem with lex wearing wigs in STM until I saw how lame it was that he threw one at a little girl in Returns. Let's just not have that... none of that land grab crap either.

Kakarot said it and I agree, up the brightness. Up up and away. Its superman!!!!! He's not batman.

One more request. Please do the shirt rip well for this one. Spidey should NEVER have better shirt rips than supes. It's just wrong.
 
Hmm that's a good point about the brightness. Fans have made it clear they want it a bit more vibrant. I do think it sort of fit the story in a way though.
 
The Incredible Hulk said:
No Zod....and No Singer

:rolleyes:
Ok you don't want Zod...

Superman Returns is considered a good film so why no Singer?
 
NO Zod - Brainiac's ok, Brainiac + Metallo would be awesome
NO Jason (yeah, it's hard to avoid now...but still)
NO Rehash of any Donner films
NO "Hackmanized" Lex - lets get him like in the JLA - Political & Scientific genius
NO "*****fication": meaning less of a 'chick flick' and more of an actual Superhero flick.

so far...
 
y2jversion1 said:
NO Zod - Brainiac's ok, Brainiac + Metallo would be awesome
NO Jason (yeah, it's hard to avoid now...but still)
NO Rehash of any Donner films
NO "Hackmanized" Lex - lets get him like in the JLA - Political & Scientific genius
NO "*****fication": meaning less of a 'chick flick' and more of an actual Superhero flick.

so far...

'Reffering to the red text':

Do you like Spiderman 1 and 2??? Because, hell, they where essentially, poor, chick flicks... with hints of action.
 
FIX the suit.
BRIGHTEN up the film.
RECAST Lois.
BEEF UP Brandon.
GIVE us an original, exciting, action-packed adventure.
GIVE us an opponent worthy of Superman.
DITCH the horrible kid.
FIRE Singer.
BEG Donner to return!
 
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