Visualizing A Superman Reboot: Pictures Welcome

[blake]

Superman and Jason team up as Nightwing & Firebird and go have adventures in Kandor.

 

[buggs0268]

Someone else step in and fix this mess that Bryan and the wack pack made for themselves.

 

[The Question]

Superman VS The Parasite. That fight would be freaking epic.

 

[CGHulk]

Singer said something to Brett Ratner, something like, don't listen to the fans/message boards because they'll ruin your creativity. If he's paying attention now, I'd be surprised. He's the grand all powerrful film genius is he not?

 

[CConn]

No demands, but just things I hope to see or not see:

No Zod.

Push Lex even further into the contradicting, arrogant, xenophobe that he is. "Gods are selfish beings..." was a good tease. Let's have more exploration into the inner thinking of Lex Luthor.

Superman attempting to teach wisdom.

Superman being happier now that he's found someone who's like him and his connection to humanity.

Brainiac would be nice.

A brighter color pallette or more daytime shots.

I'll third that.

 

[KaptainKrypton]

I don't really have many demands for the next installment. I don't mind if they use Braniac or if they use Zod, as either villain is fine with me. I just want to be pleased with the end result. Also, I do feel the relationship between Superman and his son needs to be expanded upon. Finally, I think the terms of Lois and Superman's relationship (or lack thereof) needs to be solidified so he can move on.

 

[dark_b]

i have one demand. dont throw your money away singer.build only sets that you will 100% use in the movie. and film only scenes that you knwo that will be in the movie. and dont make make updated CGI if you will not notice it.

this is throwing away money.

 

[ultimatefan]

Just one request:

- Keep trying to make the best movie you can. If you try to please all fanboys, it will drive you insane. Not even Sam Raimi and Chris Nolan achieved that miracle...

 

[Kabuki_Jo]

Just one request:

- Keep trying to make the best movie you can. If you try to please all fanboys, it will drive you insane. Not even Sam Raimi and Chris Nolan achieved that miracle...

What happens is his best isn't even enough for non-fanboys, man.
The large number of ppl I've talked to that are not fanboys and think this SR is a piece of crap is significant.

 

[The Sage]

i have one demand. dont throw your money away singer.build only sets that you will 100% use in the movie. and film only scenes that you knwo that will be in the movie. and dont make make updated CGI if you will not notice it.

this is throwing away money.

This is solid gold. The Krypton scenes are throwaway money though, unless we see them soon...

 

[DavidTyler]

After talking to a few people who liked 'Returns' I think I can honestly say that what they liked were the action sequences. I've heard more comments about things like the plane rescue and the 'bullet to the eye' scenes than the story.

More often than not, I have to specifically ask the people about the story and they usually smile and say something akin to 'well, what did you expect? It's a comic book movie?'

That is not the response we want from the general public. Not after a lot of non-comics readers have told me how good they thought 'Begins' was.

So, Singer - either go or do these fixes:

1) Fix the friggin costume. You've stirred up such a division in fandom that I want to call you George Bush, the 'uniter not a divider'! Make the costume out of modern materials like you did but ditch the buckle, enlarge the emblem (not billboard size but at least fill Brandon's chest more), brighten the red, and loosen that collar.

2) The kid has to go. I'll forgive Supes one more spin around the Earth if that's what it takes to erase Jason. We don't need this complication or Lois being married to James Marsten's character.

3) You're trying to bridge the gap between modern Corporate Shark Lex and Hackman's? Don't. Just get him up to Corporate Shark level and pretend the Hackman version never happened.

4) No more visitations by Brando. You've already tainted the mix by bringing in Donner's Jor-el but let's let it drop there.

5) You can have the crystals from Krypton but if you ever go back there in a flashback, put some plant life and fields on that world. No humanoid life can evolve on a world of crystal.

6) Fix Clark's look. I don't want to revisit Chris's Clark anymore than I want Gene Hackman's 'Luthor'. Make Clark a quiet 'everyman' and not a nerd.

7) Please drop the 1940's version of Jimmy that has been perpetuated by these films but nowhere else. Jimmy needs to be a 20 something set in today's world. Let him dress in today's styles and do things appropriate to people his age. Let's see him with an iPod stuck in his ear fooling around on the computer. Take a long hard look at 'Superman: The animated series for your model. The BOW TIE is dead.

8) Someone tell Frank Langella that he's not playing a soft, sensitive character. Perry is a loud, gruff, cigar-chomping bear of a man. Let's see him presented that way.

9) Differently than everyone else here, I didn't mind Bosworth's 'Lois'. Just give her some more meat in her role. Let the writers study the comics to get the 'Real' Lois. IN FACT .....

10) ....Get some REAL comics writers on board for the next film. Preferably someone like Roger Stern or Denny O'Neal. People who've actually written good Superman stories.

I think I've covered everything but I'll be back if I think of more.

 

[GreenKToo]

I can see his point somewhat,but when you get this many diehard superman fans togeather, some very good ideas come out...shame he doesnt take advantage of it..

Singer said something to Brett Ratner, something like, don't listen to the fans/message boards because they'll ruin your creativity. If he's paying attention now, I'd be surprised. He's the grand all powerrful film genius is he not?

 

[Apellation]

Singer said something to Brett Ratner, something like, don't listen to the fans/message boards because they'll ruin your creativity. If he's paying attention now, I'd be surprised. He's the grand all powerrful film genius is he not?

Singer is right for saying don't listen to the fans.

Fans have no idea on how to make a movie. All they care about is getting the details right.

A Superman movie made by the fans would be just another generic origin story that brings nothing new to the table. Lex Luthors involvement would be him constantly talking about how untouchable he is thanks to Lexcorp, with no real plan or motivation other than him running a corporation, because apparently thats all you need to make a good villain. Superman would never successfully save or stop anything because the post-crisis fans want a more relatable Superman. The actress cast as Lois would have nothing for her but big breasts. Mike O'Hearn would be cast as Superman. The suit would look completely ridiculous on the actor because all they cared about was how faithful it was to the comics and not how good it looked on the actor. It would be the most boring movie ever with no humour, because humour is campy and the Donner movies were campy and that can not happen! Metallo and Braniac will be shoe-horned in to have Superman fight them for no real reason.

It'd be a big mess.

 

[Mentok]

This is solid gold. The Krypton scenes are throwaway money though, unless we see them soon...

Singer said he plans on using the unseen Krypton footage in the next film. Thats why it didnt make it to the DVDs.

 

[The Sage]

It'd be cool to see Jimmy with an ipod.

 

[ultimatefan]

What happens is his best isn't even enough for non-fanboys, man.
The large number of ppl I've talked to that are not fanboys and think this SR is a piece of crap is significant.

The number of fanboy or non-fanboy people who think any given movie is a piece of crap is significant.

 

[Andy C.]

Singer is right for saying don't listen to the fans.

Fans have no idea on how to make a movie. All they care about is getting the details right.

A Superman movie made by the fans would be just another generic origin story that brings nothing new to the table. Lex Luthors involvement would be him constantly talking about how untouchable he is thanks to Lexcorp, with no real plan or motivation other than him running a corporation, because apparently thats all you need to make a good villain. Superman would never successfully save or stop anything because the post-crisis fans want a more relatable Superman. The actress cast as Lois would have nothing for her but big breasts. Mike O'Hearn would be cast as Superman. The suit would look completely ridiculous on the actor because all they cared about was how faithful it was to the comics and not how good it looked on the actor. It would be the most boring movie ever with no humour, because humour is campy and the Donner movies were campy and that can not happen! Metallo and Braniac will be shoe-horned in to have Superman fight them for no real reason.

It'd be a big mess.

THANK YOU. I can't tell you how many fan-rants and fan-scripts I've read that were total garbage, but get salivated over simply because they filled out the average "wish-list" that the Singer bashers make.

As one of the minority of Supes-fans on this forum who actually liked SR (not saying it was perfect, but I was satisfied), I can't say I have too many complaints. In all honesty, I'd rather see a villain who hasn't already been done, and I'd like to see Superman have more dialogue, but other than that I think the franchise is in good hands.

 

[thorstone]

Something I've noticed from various places including this own forum.

1. The sequel must include Brainiac or fans are gonna be pissed.
2. Fans want a physical villain for Superman to fight. Everyone and their mother is screaming for Metallo to make it on screen and see Supes throw some punches.

What else do you believe fans have made clear they want in the sequel?

Thing is, if Singer gives the majority what they/we want, there is no way the sequel will fail. "Superman: Man of Steel" btw is the preferred title by most fans, just a note incase Singer gets wind of this

1. Brainiac would be the same movie we've seen half a dozen times now with Luthor.
2. I agree, Superman requires a supervillain worthy of his intervention-- someone like Darkseid.

Singer will most likely go with Zod and noone will be happy.

"A Superman movie made by the fans would be just another generic origin story that brings nothing new to the table."

I want to see the death of Superman.

 

[Superman4ever!]

Just one request:

- Keep trying to make the best movie you can. If you try to please all fanboys, it will drive you insane. Not even Sam Raimi and Chris Nolan achieved that miracle...

in my opinion Raimi & nolan please the majority of fans, More then Singer has ever done!! X1 was okay x2 was Garbage! and Sr was a Blasphemous Disgrace!! SINGER GET THE HELL OUT! Youve had too many Chances and Phucked them all UP!! why is anyone still hiring your Tediously Boring ass? go back to Directing films like apt Pupil!

 

[Superman4ever!]

1. Brainiac would be the same movie we've seen half a dozen times now with Luthor.
2. I agree, Superman requires a supervillain worthy of his intervention-- someone like Darkseid.

Singer will most likely go with Zod and noone will be happy.

"A Superman movie made by the fans would be just another generic origin story that brings nothing new to the table."

I want to see the death of Superman.

Darkseid is an Awesome Villan for supes as well, but he should either come after brainiac, or be teamed with Brainiac, like that Awesome Episode of Justice Leauge when Brainiac And Darkside teamed up to take over the world!! Now that would be a movie Worth Phucking plopping Down Ten Bucks FOR!!

 

[darthbakpao]

I disagree with you about singer, jason, and a sequel. I think Singer and a sequel are essential. I could have done without Jason in SR, as everyone could have i think... but he's a part of it now and I for one would like to see where it's headed and give singer another chance to prove he's added something worthwhile to the Superman mythos (which is why I'd prefer not to see a new director on the SR sequel) BUT I do agree with you about the story. I didnt have much of a problem with the action, but i would like to see Superman fight someONE in the sequel. And also I agree with you about the end. Tom Mankiewicz said on the S:TM special edition DVD something like "you come away with such a reservoir of good will for the character that you come back to see it again" The problem with SR is that it ends on a content note, not a happy one and (emotionally) it pretty much just breaks even, so heres hoping for the sequel! I still have faith...

as much as i'd like to see a re-start, i think it would confuse a lot of people by doing so (re-start). But the whole "Superman with a son" was already a collateral damage (in my opinion). Even WB acknowledged that and might ask Singer to tone down the kid's plot (Jar Jar Binks treatment in SW prequels).

By the end of the day, i think Singer would either choose to compromise and will be back for the sequel with less creative control or he opt to walk away/ fired because of the pressure

Regarding the ending, i think is is 'normal' to expect some 'big action sequences' because Superman is supposed to be an action superhero movie... adding drama is good and would humanize the character and relate them to us, what would be perfect is a balanced mix of action and drama

 

[matrix_ghost]

Singer said he plans on using the unseen Krypton footage in the next film. Thats why it didnt make it to the DVDs.

Que ?

What the hell ? When did he say that ?

NOw this is actually interesting. New Krypton in Space.
Remnants of Krypton in space. What's the connection

 

[I Am The Knight]

Yeah I was gonna ask about that Krypton footage being in the sequel. Anyone has a link to that info?

 

[CGHulk]

Singer said he'd release the Return to Krypton scene back into SR in another release, possibly in IMAX 3D.

 

[Mentok]

Que ?

What the hell ? When did he say that ?

He said it a number of times after the film came out.