Was the action that much better?

[Odin's Lapdog]

Are you kidding!!! X3 beats X1 and X2 by 1000 miles when it came to the action!!! In X1 and X2, Wolverine did all the fighting while the rest of the team used their powers for a few seconds!!!

pretty much the same thing happens in this film ya know....

 

[martinbluther]

Are you kidding!!! X3 beats X1 and X2 by 1000 miles when it came to the action!!! In X1 and X2, Wolverine did all the fighting while the rest of the team used their powers for a few seconds!!!

first, he did ask "was it better?" Not was there more of it?

...and combine the time Wolverine spent fighting in this film to the time others did.... really, on-screen time. It's been that way in the last two films, that Wolverine dominated the fighting while the rest of the team used their powers for a few seconds, and was especially true in this one. In fact, no one-on-one fight in the whole film lasted more than a few seconds, with the exception of Jean v. X.

 

[D-scythe]

The problems with the action in X-Men 1 were not budget related. Pacing, editing, choreography, direction, those were the problems with the action scenes.

Other's disagree. Including me. I thought X1 had okay action. Not the best, but it was solid.

 

[TheVileOne]

It's unfair to make the comparison for X-men 1. Why? Because well it didn't cost over $200 million freaking dollars.

The money that should've been spent on X-men before was only spent on X-men 3 basically. So of course you can see all your little action scenes you always wanted.

Unfortunately you get bad dialogue and crappy characters to go along with it.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

The problems with the action in X-Men 1 were not budget related. Pacing, editing, choreography, direction, those were the problems with the action scenes.

you don't like wolverine's cage bout?

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

It's unfair to make the comparison for X-men 1. Why? Because well it didn't cause over $200 million freaking dollars.

The money that should've been spent on X-men before was only spent on X-men 3 basically. So of course you can see all your little action scenes you always wanted.

Unfortunately you get bad dialogue and crappy characters to go along with it.

i don't think a direct corellation between money and fight scenes is proper..

i mean look at the matrix trilogies, people are split across the board as to which fights they enjoyed most right from the first neo/morpheus one (my favourite) through all of neo's encounters with mr smith throughout as well as other gems like the hallway scene in the first film.

there is a blatant monetary difference in the making of the first one and last two, yet the fights aren't necessarily better.

whatever be the case, money shouldn't always be a defending argument as it doesn't always reflect.

it may attribute to reasons why but it doesn't count for a whole.

 

[Pickle-El]

120 million in 4 days, it wasn't for the pathos.

So, will it always come back to this number when someone asks a legitimate question?

 

[PhoenixRisen]

So, will it always come back to this number when someone asks a legitimate question?

It was a legitimate answer to a legitimate question.

 

[bosef982]

120 million in 4 days, it wasn't for the pathos.

No. It was from marketing.

 

[bosef982]

There was MORE action, not BETTER action. I can understand if some of you are not able to understand the difference.

 

[TheVileOne]

i don't think a direct corellation between money and fight scenes is proper..

i mean look at the matrix trilogies, people are split across the board as to which fights they enjoyed most right from the first neo/morpheus one (my favourite) through all of neo's encounters with mr smith throughout as well as other gems like the hallway scene in the first film.

there is a blatant monetary difference in the making of the first one and last two, yet the fights aren't necessarily better.

whatever be the case, money shouldn't always be a defending argument as it doesn't always reflect.

it may attribute to reasons why but it doesn't count for a whole.

The Matrix wasn't forcibly taken away from the filmmakers like X-men was near the end of production.

It wasn't being rushed like X-men was. It wasn't severely under-budgeted like X-men when they nearly cut the budget in half before it started filming. Because of that, no origin scenes for Storm or Cyclops. No Danger Room. No Beast. No Angel.

 

[Avalanche]

There was MORE action, not BETTER action. I can understand if some of you are not able to understand the difference.

People undertstand the difference. They just think X3 had better action.

 

[JTStarkiller]

Though I really wanted Phoenix flames shooting out of Jean from every direction possible.

That just sounds... nevermind.

 

[zanos]

Are some people on here stupid or just plain ignorant, look at the budgets Singer got compared to Ratner, let me spell it to you all, X-Men: $70 million, X2: $110 million, X-Men: The Last Stand: $200 million ($210 million according to the front) page. Ratner got more for one movie than Singer got for two, now how the **** do you expect Singer to do better?

Budget only plays a smart part in how well an action scene is shot. Creativity and talent is what makes an action scene great. Some of the best action sequences ever put to film were all done during a time when movie budgets were extremely low compared to today. Singer has no talent for the genre because his vision of fantasy films is so narrow. All one has to do is look at how dull the SR trailers have been to realize this. I believe he got 200 million to make that one. What excuse will the Singer fanboys be using when they see there isn't any action in that film either?

 

[LadyVader]

None, because Singer isn't the only person making that movie.

 

[AVP82]

X1- had very few action scenes. I loved the fight with Wolverine and Mystique, but that's pretty much it. The Sabretooth vs Wolverine fight was bleh.

X2- Wolverine and Deathstrike's battle was kewl, but rather strange with all those flips and jumps though.

X3- had the best action scenes by far, especially any scene with Juggernaut. Calisto put up a good fight, and who could forget Phoenix

 

[WorthyStevens]

There was MORE action, not BETTER action. I can understand if some of you are not able to understand the difference.

Nope. There's was better action.

X2 had some great sequences (such as the tornado scene and the mansion attack), but sequences such as the GGB redirection and Jean's neighborhood topped them both in my opinion.

 

[D-scythe]

Budget only plays a smart part in how well an action scene is shot. Creativity and talent is what makes an action scene great. Some of the best action sequences ever put to film were all done during a time when movie budgets were extremely low compared to today. Singer has no talent for the genre because his vision of fantasy films is so narrow. All one has to do is look at how dull the SR trailers have been to realize this. I believe he got 200 million to make that one. What excuse will the Singer fanboys be using when they see there isn't any action in that film either?

Budget plays a small (I'm assuming you mean small, not smart) role? Either you had everything handed to you on a silver platter or you're not very bright.

 

[Celestio]

X3 easily had better action in my opinion. The final battle just blew me away.

 

[BMM]

Budget only plays a smart part in how well an action scene is shot. Creativity and talent is what makes an action scene great. Some of the best action sequences ever put to film were all done during a time when movie budgets were extremely low compared to today. Singer has no talent for the genre because his vision of fantasy films is so narrow. All one has to do is look at how dull the SR trailers have been to realize this. I believe he got 200 million to make that one. What excuse will the Singer fanboys be using when they see there isn't any action in that film either?

Hardly, and those action sequences certainly didn't contain power wielding mutants. If budget only plays a small/smart part in how well an action sequence is done (and the rest relies on talent), then X3 should have cost a lot less or been a lot better than what it did/was. Magneto's moving the Golden Gate Bridge comes across well as a result of CGI . . . seeing as how it was all CGI and miniatures (all only possible due to a bigger budget) . . . the same holds true for Jean. Her "action" sequences simply involve her standing still while everything else around her goes to hell--again all the result of CGI--and again, possible because of a bigger budget. To say that budget isn't a necessary ingredient, or doesn't play a big role in a CGI based action film is ridiculous (especially a film like X-Men in which CGI is necessary . . . I would prefer to not see cotton balls in place of Storm's computer generated clouds). X-Men action sequences are fun to watch because they involve the use of power displays, which talent alone cannot afford . . . and you're kidding yourself if you think people aren't wanting to see more power displays within their X-Men action sequences (all of which cost more money and make budget an essential factor).

 

[bosef982]

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[bosef982]

Nope. There's was better action.

X2 had some great sequences (such as the tornado scene and the mansion attack), but sequences such as the GGB redirection and Jean's neighborhood topped them both in my opinion.

I'm sorry, since good action usually has substance, motive, and logic, I was too distracted by how powerful Magneto had suddenly become (considering his previous power levels and also his inability to stop the needles of the cure darts), why he wouldn't just take a boat, how everyone was able to survive him dropping it where and like he did, how it didn't buckle in the center after he dropped it, and just how incredibly pointless and reckless the GGB fit into his overall...plan...to...do...what exactly?

I was also wondering how A Number One Fugitive and his band of 60+ mutants, many fugitives, somehow crossed the entire country and no one noticed.

 

[Nathan]

and just how incredibly pointless and reckless the GGB fit into his overall...plan...to...do...what exactly?

He needed the cars on the bridge so he had something to attack with. Couldn't you figure out his grand master scheme?

 

[bosef982]

He needed the cars on the bridge so he had something to attack with. Couldn't you figure out his grand master scheme?

Was he going to use the cars to drive off of the island?

 

[AVP82]

I'm sorry, since good action usually has substance, motive, and logic, I was too distracted by how powerful Magneto had suddenly become (considering his previous power levels and also his inability to stop the needles of the cure darts), why he wouldn't just take a boat, how everyone was able to survive him dropping it where and like he did, how it didn't buckle in the center after he dropped it, and just how incredibly pointless and reckless the GGB fit into his overall...plan...to...do...what exactly?

I was also wondering how A Number One Fugitive and his band of 60+ mutants, many fugitives, somehow crossed the entire country and no one noticed.

A boat? Perhaps in X1, but he's the leader of many many mutants. He needed to show everyone, humans and his followers, his seriousness in the matter. The GGB was awesome.