Iron Man Was this really Iron Man?

[Kirk Langstrom]

I have a feeling this thread is going to turn into an ugly Batman Begins vs. Iron Man fight.

Better get the popcorn ready.

maybe if you'd stop instigating it every five seconds, it wont.

 

[Figs]

I disagree. I think this is RDJ just being RDJ and people just fall for it because he is a likeable guy.
When Bale was Batman he felt he had to create some sort of character and aura, something that was not Christian Bale. Spiderman was a freakin joke, all three of them and Singer and Ratner pissed on the great X-men.
I think that Iron Man benefits a lot more being a hardcore serious movie. Bridges was the only character that really brought forward what Iron Man should be in film-form. Come on guys, yes it's made all this money because the family can so easly watch it because it is just sooo light. Iron Man is waaay more than that and they should show that right from the get go. I think the danger now is they have a formula that works, so they'll just keep on using it.

Most actors come out a little in their roles. I don't think it was entirely RDJ that we saw on the screen. I thought he played the part very well. The thing is, RDJ naturally has that attitude and personality if you've seen him in interviews before. That's part of the reason I liked that he was picked for the role.

No, the movie is not "sooo light". It's not incredibly dark but calling it light is pure BS.

You can call me on Bull **** all you want for saying this but so far from a number of things you've said...it screams out FANBOY. The kind that isn't happy unless the comics are brought to film literally and entirely without change.

It's almost as if you wanted them to rush things and cram in the Demon in a Bottle story as well as origin in the same damn film. I have a good feeling if you hated or disliked this one that the sequel should be more of what you want out this franchise.

 

[Angeloz]

And I was looking forward to the "Catwoman" and "Electra" fight (not really).

Angeloz

 

[SFII]

what kind of ******** question is this

 

[Angeloz]

You could take the mickey out of it rather than take it seriously.

Amgeloz

 

[kakashi]

You have an agenda my friend. Bash Iron Man for the sake of Batman

My guess as well.

man...if they ever make a Deapool movie, and it turns out succesfull, there still going to be jaded batfans coming to the board bashing the movie for being too comical...complaining how Deadpool wastes too much time with funny one liners..instead of moping aroundw ondering about the 'nature of insanity'...or things like that.t:

 

[Immortalfire]

This was Man Iron.

 

[fallenAngel]

Yeah most people called it refreshing that Tony Stark did just sit there and brood all the time.

Seriously, what is with the sudden need for every superhero movie to be so insanely dark and depressing. That's Batman's stick and frankly a lot of batfans are worried that the Dark Knight won't make as much money since it isn't really "family Friendly".

I agree that there can be a dumbing down of marvel superheros on film coughFantasticfourcaough. But at the same time these stories are supposed to be fun and exciting, with substance sure, but they still are meant to entertain. Especially the origin movies, the heavy stuff is supposed to come later.

 

[Angeloz]

So not Bronze Man?

Angeloz

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Yeah most people called it refreshing that Tony Stark did just sit there and brood all the time.

I would definitely call it that. I thought his character was great and the tone of the movie worked perfectly. Like someone else mentioned, I kind of think the OP may have an agenda against Iron Man because of its enormous success. Maybe the OP feels threatened being a Batman fan. Which would be extremely silly. BB was a phenomenal movie and so was Iron Man. Plenty of room for both.

 

[Excel]

he and Rhodes even get drunk on his private jet that has stripper flight attendants....

Despite pretty damn funny, this may go down as the STUPIDEST scene in comic book history; including batman n robin n supes 2 n 3. It was funny but....what is this? Austin Power?

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Despite pretty damn funny, this may go down as the STUPIDEST scene in comic book history; including batman n robin n supes 2 n 3. It was funny but....what is this? Austin Power?

I thought this scene best displayed Stark's brilliance. Designing a plane that had secret stripper poles that rise up from the floor. t:

 

[Figs]

Despite pretty damn funny, this may go down as the STUPIDEST scene in comic book history; including batman n robin n supes 2 n 3. It was funny but....what is this? Austin Power?

Nope Spider-Man 3 won that award...a few times over.

 

[Raiden]

Despite pretty damn funny, this may go down as the STUPIDEST scene in comic book history; including batman n robin n supes 2 n 3. It was funny but....what is this? Austin Power?

It's a funny scene, yes, but it also shown the old Stark being indulgent in his love for alcohol and women. After his ordeal, you don't see that anymore, and in fact Stark began to take interest in the lady who has his confidente and assisted him tremendously: Pepper Potts. I don't see why this scene is the "STUPIDEST scene in comic book history".

 

[Raiden]

I thought this scene best displayed Stark's brilliance. Designing a plane that had secret stripper poles that rise up from the floor. t:

Bruce Wayne could only wish he's brilliant enough to install riseable stripper pole in his private jet.

 

[Angeloz]

I thought this scene best displayed Stark's brilliance. Designing a plane that had secret stripper poles that rise up from the floor. t:

LOL. If this is true I'm glad I'm waiting for the DVD.

Angeloz

 

[Darknightnomis]

I've been Reading Iron Man for over 35 years and YES this was the REAL IRON MAN !

The movie showed great respect for the characters comic book origin and yet Fav tweaked it for today's audience without losing his history.

And if you didn't see the subtle foreshadowing in some scenes to the problems Tony Stark is notorious for in the comics then you need to look a litlle more closer the nest time you watch the movie.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Despite pretty damn funny, this may go down as the STUPIDEST scene in comic book history; including batman n robin n supes 2 n 3. It was funny but....what is this? Austin Power?

please, there have been worse, Spider-man dancing, Bruce Wayne jumping in the pool with the euro models, Dr Doom's Macro Polo line, and plenty others.

 

[Angeloz]

Well I've seen a couple of trailers and I noticed he had a drink in his hand in more than one scene. I'm not that knowledgeable about him though.

Angeloz

 

[Iron_Stark]

So not Bronze Man?

Angeloz

Actually Gold-Plated Titanium Alloy Man.

(I thinks that's the line Tony uses at the end)

 

[bkey]

He is Iron Man. The second film should be darker, exploring Stark's alcoholism and what not, if that's what you feel "makes" him Iron Man.

I personally loved the movie. Best one of the year so far (which isn't saying much.)

Even if it wasn't 100% true to the comics, it did them justice, and has made Iron Man a household name, where as before he was, IMO, a lesser known superhero.

 

[Angeloz]

Actually Gold-Plated Titanium Alloy Man.

(I thinks that's the line Tony uses at the end)

Heh. Interesting.

Angeloz

 

[8blades]

Wow guys, maybe I should have mentioned that I thought the movie was good...not great, but good. I just find it disheartening that a film that is so basic and simple is being heralded as the greatest thing ever and folks are getting just a little bit over-excited. Yes, it was good but it could have been so much better and taken a lot more risks in its story. Again, we are in the year 2008 and you can't just show WMD's and not really address the issue or just show it as a side-thing.
I actually think this was a better film as a whole than Batman Begins, but Begins took a lot more risks and was very bold in what it was trying to do. Hence, why even RDJ commented on trying to steer clear away from what Nolan and Bale did.

Oh, and I think Bale is the only genuine dark brooding hero...the others just pretend to be but fail miserably. Basically, Iron Man was what films like Fantastic Four and Spiderman tried to be but failed, while Begins, eventhough it was flawed, was trying to bring some new things to the table.

 

[Riven]

I'm not very well-versed in the Iron Man comic books, so I couldn't say if the portrayal of Tony Stark was "accurate" or not, but I don't feel that the lighter, funnier side of Tony Stark conflicts with his darker side, his weaker side that leads him to become an alcoholic.

Many people with substance abuse problems are cool people to be around, who seem genuinely fun and carefree. It's only later, when you get to know them better, that cracks in the facade will become apparent and you get glimpses of the darker soul that has a serious problem. They'll hide whatever troubles them inside from the rest of the world and lie to themselves to great extent.


So I think Favreau was clever and indeed faithful to portray Stark as happy-go-lucky in this film and save the darker stuff for later. It's called building a character arc...

 

[kakashi]

I'm not very well-versed in the Iron Man comic books, so I couldn't say if the portrayal of Tony Stark was "accurate" or not, but I don't feel that the lighter, funnier side of Tony Stark conflicts with his darker side, his weaker side that leads him to become an alcoholic.

Many people with substance abuse problems are cool people to be around, who seem genuinely fun and carefree. It's only later, when you get to know them better, that cracks in the facade will become apparent and you get glimpses of the darker soul that has a serious problem. They'll hide whatever troubles them inside from the rest of the world and lie to themselves to great extent.

So I think Favreau was clever and indeed faithful to portray Stark as happy-go-lucky in this film and save the darker stuff for later. It's called building a character arc...

Sadly..that is true in most cases....