Watchmen, early Oscar buzz?

[Cadetak]

haley should be nominated for best supporting actor, but that won't happen.

this move will maybe get a few technical noms, if any.

I don't understand why everybody believes Haley should get an Oscar, he was amazing but you have to realize that he was under a mask for most of the film...so that leaves like three scenes to base any real acting on and that isn't enough for an award in my and most probably the academy's opinion.

 

[Dark Globe]

I don't understand why everybody believes Haley should get an Oscar, he was amazing but you have to realize that he was under a mask for most of the film...so that leaves like three scenes to base any real acting on and that isn't enough for an award in my and most probably the academy's opinion.

So, because he was wearing a mask, he wasn't acting? That's stupid. I guess Heath Ledger wasn't acting when he was wearing his face paint. Acting is more than facial expressions.

 

[JerseyJoker]

Face paint and mask are two different things.

The academy wont see it as acting, the see it as voice acting.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Lot of irony here considering the symbol for acting is a couple of masks.

 

[JerseyJoker]

Really thats the symbol of acting for the theater.

Symbol of acting for film is "$$$"

 

[JerseyJoker]

Really thats the symbol of acting for the theater.

Symbol of acting for film is "$$$"

 

[Infinity9999x]

I don't understand why everybody believes Haley should get an Oscar, he was amazing but you have to realize that he was under a mask for most of the film...so that leaves like three scenes to base any real acting on and that isn't enough for an award in my and most probably the academy's opinion.

What are you talking about? He has a mask so he wasn't acting? That's an incredibly ignorant comment to make. If anything, that should help his case more, because it's harder to act without your face than with it. You have to be very meticulous about how you use your voice and carry your body to convey emotions. There's a reason the guy they brought in before Hugo Weaving quit V for Vendetta. He said it was too hard for him to act with his entire face covered.

If you think that somehow Haley wasn't acting because his face was covered, then you don't know much about acting at all.

 

[Anita18]

What are you talking about? He has a mask so he wasn't acting? That's an incredibly ignorant comment to make. If anything, that should help his case more, because it's harder to act without your face than with it. You have to be very meticulous about how you use your voice and carry your body to convey emotions. There's a reason the guy they brought in before Hugo Weaving quit V for Vendetta. He said it was too hard for him to act with his entire face covered.

If you think that somehow Haley wasn't acting because his face was covered, then you don't know much about acting at all.

Well I think the Academy will be biased against it, because they first they go for the Oscar bait roles, then they go for the showy roles. I thought Gary Oldman did as spectacular a job as Heath in TDK, but Gordon wasn't as showy a role as Joker. Heck, even if Heath hadn't died, very non-Oscar-bait yet showy roles had been given their due in the form of Johnny Depp's nom for Jack Sparrow and this year in RDJ in Tropic Thunder.

Wearing a mask means you can't do a lot of the show-ier emoting with your eyes and mouth. Of course it doesn't make Haley's job any easier, as any actor will tell you, but it makes for a difficult gauge for public acknowledgment.

 

[Raiden]

I expect Watchmen to score some nominations in the technical categories, like TDK, but nothing beyond that. Unfortunately, I doubt any of the actors, including Haley, will be nominated. If TDK and its ensemble of Oscar-nominated/winning actors could not get the Oscar except for Heath Ledger, then I don't think Haley will have much of a chance.

 

[baerrtt]

I expect Watchmen to score some nominations in the technical categories, like TDK, but nothing beyond that. Unfortunately, I doubt any of the actors, including Haley, will be nominated. If TDK and its ensemble of Oscar-nominated/winning actors could not get the Oscar except for Heath Ledger, then I don't think Haley will have much of a chance.

If the 2nd highest grossing movie of all time armed to the teeth with mostly excellent reviews and PGA, DGA and WGA nominations was unable to convert those into into major Osacr nods largely due to older Academy members looking down upon the comic book genre how much hope for an ambitious but (box-office wise) underperforming addition to the genre with mixed reviews at best?

 

[SuperFerret]

What are you talking about? He has a mask so he wasn't acting? That's an incredibly ignorant comment to make. If anything, that should help his case more, because it's harder to act without your face than with it. You have to be very meticulous about how you use your voice and carry your body to convey emotions. There's a reason the guy they brought in before Hugo Weaving quit V for Vendetta. He said it was too hard for him to act with his entire face covered.

If you think that somehow Haley wasn't acting because his face was covered, then you don't know much about acting at all.

I still say that Weaving deserves an Oscar for how well he emoted from behind that mask.

 

[laudanum09]

I don't understand why everybody believes Haley should get an Oscar, he was amazing but you have to realize that he was under a mask for most of the film...so that leaves like three scenes to base any real acting on and that isn't enough for an award in my and most probably the academy's opinion.

riiiiiiight. Just like if someone had 20 minutes of screen time (not solo of course, and I think that figure is rounded up) in a 2 hour plus movie, they don't deserve an Oscar either. Oh wait, remember that guy Hannibal Lecter?

 

[Motown Marvel]

i think haley was really really good, but not necessarily oscar good.

 

[El Payaso]

It wont win anything Ledger was great but clearly got an oscar because he died.

Absolutely. Watchmen won't be nominated for anything other than the minor cathegories. If so.

Not a horrible movie, but far from the snobbish Academy's tastes.

 

[Anita18]

riiiiiiight. Just like if someone had 20 minutes of screen time (not solo of course, and I think that figure is rounded up) in a 2 hour plus movie, they don't deserve an Oscar either. Oh wait, remember that guy Hannibal Lecter?

It's officially just over 16 minutes for Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs. Judi Dench WON for 8 minutes of screentime in Shakespeare in Love.

Unofficially (me while bored), Ledger got just under 28 minutes of screentime in TDK.

I think the fact that Haley's role is in a March-released movie will hurt him more than anything else. Two actors in summer movies were nominated for Best Supporting Actor last year (Ledger and RDJ, and RDJ's movie didn't do gangbusters at the BO either) but I think May is absolutely as early as they'll go. Plus the field was pretty weak. Ledger had it practically locked up by December.

 

[DACrowe]

I think Haley was great, but as of yet I'm not sure Oscar-good. I thought Hugo Weaving as V For Vendetta was more memorable and that was also a somewhat mixed-review (though better reviewed than Watchmen) March-released so-so box office comic book movie. I also thought Edward Norton was Best Supporting Actor worthy and gave one of the most memorable supporting performances of 2005 in Kingdom of Heaven as King Baldwin IV aka the Leper King in the silver masks.

Neither of those were nominated. Haley was good, but he just won't sell it to the Academy. The other great turn in Watchmen was Billy Crudup who gave such a sympathetic and tragic performance. But like Andy Serkis as Gollum, his visual expressions were mimiced and his voice is there, but considering it is a CGI character, he cannot be nominated as it is not actually him on screen.

 

[DACrowe]

I think Haley was great, but as of yet I'm not sure Oscar-good. I thought Hugo Weaving as V For Vendetta was more memorable and that was also a somewhat mixed-review (though better reviewed than Watchmen) March-released so-so box office comic book movie. I also thought Edward Norton was Best Supporting Actor worthy and gave one of the most memorable supporting performances of 2005 in Kingdom of Heaven as King Baldwin IV aka the Leper King in the silver masks.

Neither of those were nominated. Haley was good, but he just won't sell it to the Academy. The other great turn in Watchmen was Billy Crudup who gave such a sympathetic and tragic performance. But like Andy Serkis as Gollum, his visual expressions were mimiced and his voice is there, but considering it is a CGI character, he cannot be nominated as it is not actually him on screen.

 

[Shon]

Judging from this post you're probably a dumb individual anyway.

OOOOHHH BURN, wow you are GOOD!

 

[The Apocalypse]

OOOOHHH BURN, wow you are GOOD!

Thank you.

 

[laudanum09]

It's officially just over 16 minutes for Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs. Judi Dench WON for 8 minutes of screentime in Shakespeare in Love.

Unofficially (me while bored), Ledger got just under 28 minutes of screentime in TDK.

I think the fact that Haley's role is in a March-released movie will hurt him more than anything else. Two actors in summer movies were nominated for Best Supporting Actor last year (Ledger and RDJ, and RDJ's movie didn't do gangbusters at the BO either) but I think May is absolutely as early as they'll go. Plus the field was pretty weak. Ledger had it practically locked up by December.

yah, i hear ya. Technically speaking, he's probably not even going to get a nod for these reasons, but if I were the academy, none of that would matter. But I'm not. I'm not old, white, rich (sorry no offense to any whites out there), fat, or full of 'liberal' sensibilities, so that's that.

 

[inflames]

not all whites are rich, trust me. and wouldnt that be conservative and not liberal? since they arn't very open minded? lol

 

[laudanum09]

yeah i should have moved the parenthesis just after white. nah, they love the liberal crap. And by 'they' I'll generalize at the moment to include hollywood in general. IE, wear 'save darfur' shirts because you have the time and money to devote to a cause. It's why Bill Gates is so offensive to me. lol.

PS, I'm not conservative either. I think both are in a suspended state of a false binary opposition. The third way is a response to this, but is still an attempt to overcome what was already a false contradiction, so the libertarian, green party stuff doesn't work for me either. Rant in inappropriate section now finished.

 

[p4poetic]

Maybe a technical nomination or two, outside of that it has no shot at any other nominations.

This.

 

[Leenie]

Haley should have some form of recognition for his performance as Rorschach. He was amazing. Even when he was in the mask (which is for a good 80% of the movie), you can see Haley's performance shining through. That's not easy to accomplish.

Now, do I think that Watchmen will be nominated for stuff like best picture? Nope, I totally can't see that. I can see it getting nominated for technical stuff, though.

 

[Carmine Falcone]

I don't see Watchmen getting any big oscars. But then again, I don't see what the big deal with the Oscars is anyway... I mean, Hitchcock never got one, that's the ultimate proof the Oscars are a joke.

One quote by Werner Herzog really opened my eyes about the whole movie awards business, it goes as follows; I'm not out to win prizes - that's for dogs and horses. Superb!