World Web shooter shop class

[spidey44]

this should work but I'm going to need a capacitor.

 

[spidey44]

I'll probably need a capacitor for this one, I guess i'll stick with a mechanical way of opening the valve.

 

[White_widow]

Alright! I'm impressed. I had to look that one up. Do you have any experience with electronics spidey44?

 

[spidey44]

not really just some simple stuff, this shouldn't be too hard, what i had in mind was something like a mini coil gun that would pull the pin back in a schrader valve.

 

[spidey44]

White Widow is your webshooter going to mix 2 parts together and shoot them.

 

[White_widow]

You know, I thought about that once, but there's a problem with seperating two components in a chemical equation. There is a very difficult rationing process. For example, the "two part equation" is like a recipe. To work for the scenerio, the recipe calls for ingredients in certain ratios. Even if the formula is a nice 50/50, it's going to be hard calculating how much pressure you should use to make sure that the ingredients are in the proper ratio. You'd have to calculate weight, viscosity, non-newtonian properties, and other such things. It would be even harder in ratios any different. Imagine trying to calculate how much pressure to propel 80% of a formula and twenty percent so that they'll mix.

I prefer to make one solid fluid compound. In almost any scenerio, if you have to mix it, it's not meant to be instant.

 

[spidey44]

new valve idea hopefully this one works.

 

[White_widow]

What's the new idea?

 

[spidey44]

It was, that i was going to stick the base of a small nail into the cap of a schrader valve and sand small slits in the side to let the air escape, but the slits were too big and when i put the nail in it collapsed.

 

[spidey44]

Another idea!

 

[spidey44]

It works!

 

[White_widow]

oh, do tell!

 

[spidey44]

this time I moved the nail over and made it contact the pin in the schrader valve at an angle, but first you have to sand a hole exactly opposite of where the nail is, I tested this on my bike tires and it worked, you have to glue the nail in place so it doesn't move, the only problem is this is a valve that you have to twist to use it, so I'll have to use a motor or servo to use this, it shouldn't be too hard,
Tip: If you're going to use this idea, use a lighter or something to widen the hole if it's too small, be careful! I burnt myself.

 

[Spectacular23]

no problem. And I hope I'm wrong about some of your ideas. Tesla was told that oscillation of electricity was impossible and yet he invented it! as for the 2012 shooters, I figure only three things are possible (if you look closely at the picture of the shooters when he's wearing the jacket, you'll notice that there are metal bit hidden by a cloth. It could be a cartridge or a battery. In the trailer, you'll notice he pulls a web from his neck..., odd).

1.)The web shooter is a web manipulator. Even if he had webs coming out his wrist, it would only be in one strand and he couldn't fire it. Maybe this one uses a piston to fire the webs. from the wrist

2.)He compresses web fluid from his body into cartridges that are covered by some form of fabric.

3.) It's like every other spiderman from the comics with a web shooter.

I'm not 100% sure until I see more action involving it, but those are my three primary guesses.

I have to look at that image again. But I'm liking all 3 theory but Webb said specifically that he incorporated mechanicals. Theory 3 is what they're going with according to the director but i have no idea how these shooters will work. Hopefully we get a explanation or another image to explain these shooters more clearfully.

 

[White_widow]

To spidey44: That's interesting to say the least. I'm curious to see how the result transfers to the project, as those valves can hold quite a bit of pressure. My question for you is, "is this valve for the shooter, or a containment vessel for fluid?" I suppose it could be both. This valve idea seems similar to a solenoid with a more mechanical aspect. Also, did you get the valve from a tire or from something else? Keep up the good work!

To Spectacular23: to say he "incorporated mechanicals" doesn't neccessarily mean that they are all mechanical. Still, I hope for the third theory to be true. It would make our job here harder, but it would be cool nonetheless. Look at this picture very closely:

There are little metal rectangular bits next to/ under the watch face. It's hidden by a nylon cover.

 

[Spectacular23]

To spidey44: That's interesting to say the least. I'm curious to see how the result transfers to the project, as those valves can hold quite a bit of pressure. My question for you is, "is this valve for the shooter, or a containment vessel for fluid?" I suppose it could be both. This valve idea seems similar to a solenoid with a more mechanical aspect. Also, did you get the valve from a tire or from something else? Keep up the good work!

To Spectacular23: to say he "incorporated mechanicals" doesn't neccessarily mean that they are all mechanical. Still, I hope for the third theory to be true. It would make our job here harder, but it would be cool nonetheless. Look at this picture very closely:

There are little metal rectangular bits next to/ under the watch face. It's hidden by a nylon cover.

I see what you talking about and i was able to find a screen grab of the teaser trailer and there's something behind the nozzle see:




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A cartridge perhaps? Mybe they going back with the one cartridge at a time like TAS 90's spider-man.

 

[White_widow]

perhaps. I wonder if that piece in the back of the shooter is a cartridge, then what about the metal bits beside it? This is quite the conundrum (While I pride myself on being a tad bit more literate on some of my posts than others, I would have to say shamefully that I have no idea if that is spelled correctly.) One thing that I would like to point out is that the web is only two strands, and I would also like to praise how small a quantity he used of webbing. Surely, he couldn't conjure a thick rope out of such small mass would he?

 

[spidey44]

The valve is to release the co2 or whatever propellant i'm going to use. My design uses the Venturi Effect.

 

[White_widow]

Sweet! What are you going to use to stop the liquid from just dripping out?

 

[Symbiote-Man]

Ohhhhhhhh I am so jealous of you guys!!!!! I would love to start now. Maybe I can start on the week end. I don't have much time now.

 

[White_widow]

I know how you feel symbiote-man. I want to start making the parts for the shooters and here I hear that spidey44 is making a schrader valve modifications and one of my other friends is working on a formula modification.

 

[Spectacular23]

perhaps. I wonder if that piece in the back of the shooter is a cartridge, then what about the metal bits beside it? This is quite the conundrum (While I pride myself on being a tad bit more literate on some of my posts than others, I would have to say shamefully that I have no idea if that is spelled correctly.) One thing that I would like to point out is that the web is only two strands, and I would also like to praise how small a quantity he used of webbing. Surely, he couldn't conjure a thick rope out of such small mass would he?

I see i see...

 

[spidey44]

White Widow I got the valve from a bike inner tube, and I never thought about how I was going to keep the fluid from dripping out, thanks for bringing it up.

 

[White_widow]

I see. I found some things recently. They won't work for us yet because of the pressure we use.

http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?14,5870

http://www.nitrous.info/nitrous-solenoid.htm

 

[spidey44]

I've see the first one before but not the second one, I agree our pressure would be too high for them.