World Web shooter shop class

[Spectacular23]

Is it possible to put pressurizers in the webshooters without actually having to supercomompress the web fluid into a cartridge. I was looking at the image of the web shooter from the new movie teaser trailer and notice how the nozzle the big round part and the single cartridge that was loaded into the web shooter. What if and i do believe this is possible, that the round part actually super compress the web fluid itself and actually maybe make the web fluid Smaller for more. So technically using a little amount of web fluid to create alot as far as actual webbing. I have a really good gut feeling that the web shooters do a lil more as far as just firing the web fluid. I think and this is my opinion in which i believe every fan is entitled to, i believe the web fluid gets super compressed and maybe do a little something else who knows.... But since the actual design of the web shooters themselves are very different then what we used too, they might do more than expected. What do you guys think? I really wanna hear opinions.

 

[White_widow]

Well, if you notice in the trailer, He uses his web fluid very sparingly? He only uses it once. I don't know as far as that goes, but I have a theory on how he could get away with swinging on a thread. Ordinarily, in the case of us, we can hold onto something like dental floss. It's just to small. But the old cartoon says, "Can he swing from a thread?" A thread can't be swung on, if he couldn't grasp it. Also, if the web was super sticky after it came out of the shooter, he couldn't let go.

Under those two premises (I.e. Being too sticky to let go and being too thin to hold) Then it is possible that he uses his natural adhesive abilities to hold on. It makes sense. He can swing on a line of silly string, whereas we would need at least a pencil width because of length, consuming much more fluid. Also it means he can keep a vice grip.

 

[Spectacular23]

Well, if you notice in the trailer, He uses his web fluid very sparingly? He only uses it once. I don't know as far as that goes, but I have a theory on how he could get away with swinging on a thread. Ordinarily, in the case of us, we can hold onto something like dental floss. It's just to small. But the old cartoon says, "Can he swing from a thread?" A thread can't be swung on, if he couldn't grasp it. Also, if the web was super sticky after it came out of the shooter, he couldn't let go.

Under those two premises (I.e. Being too sticky to let go and being too thin to hold) Then it is possible that he uses his natural adhesive abilities to hold on. It makes sense. He can swing on a line of silly string, whereas we would need at least a pencil width because of length, consuming much more fluid. Also it means he can keep a vice grip.

He like to call them, stick'em powers. LOL So how do you think peter formula will work in the film. It looks too smple. Like it's just a batch and another batch of chemicals into each other to create the web fluid. If it's a multipolymer that's synthetic then i believe we can all do the same. I'm gonna see if it's possible to create a more simplistic web fluid formula that doesn't give me a headache. t: In the SSM his web fluid was very adhesive and could hold his weight and pound from pound when sprayed out differently. But i swear it's ripped like toilet paper. But I'm really curious still to how the web formula works in the movie. But here's to making a more simple web fluid formula!! Now I'm thinking of getting some nylon 6,10 formula and either gorilla glue or CA and maybe have the round part of the shooters do some type of cool thing to keep the fluid very adhesive and the nylon part comes into place when it is sheared out through the nozzle... This might not work or will. Who knows? White Widow might know! But it still wouldn't hurt to try it. One thing i like about the USM theory was that the web fluid formula was never to be swung on. It was more of a very strong adhesive liquid. That when sheared out the nozzle created the adhesive strong fibers that he swings on. He didn't actually make the web fluid untill he did some tweaks and work on the original. Maybe a strength additive? IDK.

 

[White_widow]

Oh man..., that's the third dimension to use that joke. :P The way I figure they will do it in the film is this:

Peter will develop the webbing formula from his father's lab.

The reason for that is that most movie directors like to keep characters relatable. Peter is smart, but making him too much of a nerd will alienate certain members of an audience. So way to do that is to say that he took it from someone else. However, Peter is also a character with a strong sense of justice. Therefore the film will portray it in a way that makes it alright. Basically, if Peter were to steal the research from oscorp, then it would make sense because oscorp has a research and development center. If Peter's father worked for oscorp, then it would give a moral opening. Technically, it would be his birthright. That is only an inference. There is no guarentee that that is how it will happen.

It could also be that he makes the fluid biologically. He did pull that thread from his neck.

Without a doubt, he himself will make the shooters. They are too his style.

Now as for your formula idea. I don't think gorilla glue will do the trick. It tends to take a long time to work. As for the nylon, it desperately needs a plasticizer.

Recently that thought came into my head too. The fact that we can't make nano-cellulose means that we should probably make due. Here's some info that can't change.

1.) Cyanoacrylate is the only glue we can use. It is instant and it a great crosslinking agent. It's also the most adhesive.

2.) It Needs to expand.

3.) We need a strengthening agent.

 

[Spectacular23]

Oh man..., that's the third dimension to use that joke. :P The way I figure they will do it in the film is this:

Peter will develop the webbing formula from his father's lab.

The reason for that is that most movie directors like to keep characters relatable. Peter is smart, but making him too much of a nerd will alienate certain members of an audience. So way to do that is to say that he took it from someone else. However, Peter is also a character with a strong sense of justice. Therefore the film will portray it in a way that makes it alright. Basically, if Peter were to steal the research from oscorp, then it would make sense because oscorp has a research and development center. If Peter's father worked for oscorp, then it would give a moral opening. Technically, it would be his birthright. That is only an inference. There is no guarentee that that is how it will happen.

It could also be that he makes the fluid biologically. He did pull that thread from his neck.

Without a doubt, he himself will make the shooters. They are too his style.

Now as for your formula idea. I don't think gorilla glue will do the trick. It tends to take a long time to work. As for the nylon, it desperately needs a plasticizer.

Recently that thought came into my head too. The fact that we can't make nano-cellulose means that we should probably make due. Here's some info that can't change.

1.) Cyanoacrylate is the only glue we can use. It is instant and it a great crosslinking agent. It's also the most adhesive.

2.) It Needs to expand.

3.) We need a strengthening agent.

I agree with you as far as how the film will portray peter's intellect. Or how he will obtain the formula. I do believe he will most likely get the formula from his dad research notes and such... My question as far as the web fluid formula we're working on goes: what is the purpose of the plasticizer? I always liked the idea of CA. Ever since you brought it up back on the old thread (no pun intended) So I'm guessing is how can we get or obtain a strengthening agent. Better yet what can be used as am additive that can perfectly bond with the cyanoacrylate and maybe strengthen it's adhesive properties and the ability to form web lines, fibers, web nets, yadda yadda. It do need to expand i agree with you on that one. But i do agree with you as far as the 3 things needed. Cyanoacrylate is the base for anybody working on the web fluid formula. It's instant and like you said a great crosslinking agent.

So what's next? Obviously we need something that can do one of two things:
1. Strengthen the web fluid. It need to be able to support A LOT of weight and need to have incredible strength in general.
2. Need to be able to react quickly when exposed to air to give it that nice, white clean web-line look. But it also need to be able to do other things also.

 

[White_widow]

what is the purpose of the plasticizer?

1.) So I'm guessing is how can we get or obtain a strengthening agent. Better yet what can be used as am additive that can perfectly bond with the cyanoacrylate and maybe strengthen it's adhesive properties and the ability to form web lines, fibers, web nets, yadda yadda.

2.)So what's next? Obviously we need something that can do one of two things:
I. Strengthen the web fluid. It need to be able to support A LOT of weight and need to have incredible strength in general.
II. Need to be able to react quickly when exposed to air to give it that nice, white clean web-line look. But it also need to be able to do other things also.

1.)Nylon is incredibly weak without modifications. That's why they give it a chemical bath. It strengthens and makes nylon more "healthy".

2.) Graphene, magnesium oxide, and borax. They also make them fireproof, translucent, and conductive.

3.)I have posted a recent comment on the formula on the formula post. This is still the web shooter page. I'd recommend moving this conversation there. I like the way you are thinking though.

4.) Because alot of your ideas are pretty fantastical (Highly creative but limited due to conventional science.) I looked into a material that you might want to study, It might give you what you need. They are called quantum dots. They are programmable atoms that can become pretty much everything when you run a current through them. They also follow quantum physics, which is a fancy way of saying making the impossible happen.

5.) Thread. That was a really good pun t:

 

[Spectacular23]

1.)Nylon is incredibly weak without modifications. That's why they give it a chemical bath. It strengthens and makes nylon more "healthy".

2.) Graphene, magnesium oxide, and borax. They also make them fireproof, translucent, and conductive.

3.)I have posted a recent comment on the formula on the formula post. This is still the web shooter page. I'd recommend moving this conversation there. I like the way you are thinking though.

4.) Because alot of your ideas are pretty fantastical (Highly creative but limited due to conventional science.) I looked into a material that you might want to study, It might give you what you need. They are called quantum dots. They are programmable atoms that can become pretty much everything when you run a current through them. They also follow quantum physics, which is a fancy way of saying making the impossible happen.

5.) Thread. That was a really good pun t:

Ahh i always thought Nylon would look more healthier! But i did see the post you said earlier about Graphene. Is this on sell for commercial uses? Can it be bought locally or what? I will have to go back and look at that post. I will soon though. Also as far as my idea I'm known for thinking outside the box but i still try to keep it within the realm of reality. But quantum dots. I'm actually been wanting to study quantum physics for some time now. I'm gonna Google up what i can on quantum dots, you stated that they are programmable atoms that can become pretty much anything right? This right here just opened up a new are in my mind in which i could maybe experiment with this theory.

Also I'm aware that due to conventional sciences technology is limited. But that doesn't mean it's impossible/ I'm willing to go to the depths of future and foundations of techn ology to see what can be create to better mankind. I believe that web shooters would help indefinitely. But also other tools that might help mankind as far as transportation and other stuff.

Forgive me guys for going off-topic. Once i get started i can't stop lol. But as far as the web shooter. There is absolutely no WAY you can create web shooters that "disappear beneath a costume. Now maybe regular clothes like a jacket or a long sleeve shirt. But I was looking at some gamplay for batman arkham city and i really like how the guantlets he wears are looking. I think with some minor/ or major (give or take) tweakings this could be modified into some web shooters? If not maybe something more than a web shooter?

 

[Wadaltmon]

Sorry for not posting in a while. I've been terribly sick.
As for the web shooter, I am having an engineer build the circuit for double tap.

 

[White_widow]

I'm sorry bud. I hope you're doing better today.

 

[spidey44]

Almost finished with my first cartridge, i have to make sure it's air tight and water tight. and that it won't explode.

 

[Wadaltmon]

Haha, I've had so many cartridges blow up in my face! Wear some sort of protection.

 

[spidey44]

well, I had a set back somewhere between major and minor the way I made it it was pretty much bound to fail. but I have a plan b. this should work.

 

[Wadaltmon]

Can you get pics?

 

[spidey44]

no. I don't have a camera right now. but try to imagine a 5 1/2 inch tube with an aerosol valve attached at the top, then I cut it in half because I wanted a smaller cartridge, then covered it in jb kwik hoping it would hold but then it snapped in half.

 

[spidey44]

finished first cartridge.

 

[White_widow]

Cool! ^^ Can it hold any pressure?

 

[spidey44]

haven't tested that yet once I get some yeast I'll mix it with hydrogen peroxide and see how much pressure it will hold.

 

[Wadaltmon]

I thought hydrogen peroxide was antiseptic...

 

[White_widow]

it is, but it reacts with yeast.

 

[Wadaltmon]

How does it react?

 

[spidey44]

it makes water and oxygen it's a reduction reaction.

 

[Wadaltmon]

Oh, ok then

 

[White_widow]

Yeah, the yeast acts as a catalyst. It breaks down H2O2 into H20 and O2

 

[Wadaltmon]

Yeah, the yeast acts as a catalyst. It breaks down H2O2 into H20 and O2

How does this help us?

 

[spidey44]

I'm using it to pressurize the cartridge.