World Webbing formula

[Symbiote-Man]

Well then I really suggest using the formula. Also, I forgot to test this, but dish soap may proove to have better results.

 

[White_widow]

I suppose that when it comes to the web, we won't be swinging from it. Even if it was strong enough to hold the weight, consider that swinging would take alot of fluid so you would have to have a strand of fluid so small in diameter that you couldn't hold it without the adhesive. Considering that the connection of the end of the web to the object is much bigger because the collision causes the fluid to splatter before hardening, there is much more surface area for the web to grip. The small diameter wouldn't allow it to have a large surface area of glue so you'd still likely slip. I would just wear rubber gloves with a blade on the thumb nail to cut the thing.

 

[spidey44]

It would take some strength to swing also.

 

[Symbiote-Man]

If it is sticky enough, it might stick to the valve when it closes. Then you don't even have to hold on. By the time it comes off it might be dry.
Spidey 44, it takes more strength to hold on if it is small, less if it is bigger.
I might not use the foam formula, because it would just have to foam in the cartridge, exposing air bubbles, which might prevent it from coming out in strings.

 

[Symbiote-Man]

Container wise, though, a little combo goes a long way! I tested it and it almost tripled in size! It would be a good special effect, but if I put soap and baking soda in the gum, it might not expand as much when you put the vinegar and lime juice in.

 

[White_widow]

The point about the clogging of the valve is an example of how important it is to oil and polymer coat the parts that are in contact with the fluid. To symbiote man when it comes to the experiment, the surfactant expands with pressure. The reaon it tripled in size is because it expanded with the small pressure generated by the chemical reaction. Just imagine the massive expansion you could manipulate with a sieve and a co2 cartridge.

 

[Symbiote-Man]

Wow! Ok... That would be BIG!

 

[Symbiote-Man]

Would I need the vinegar and lime juice, or the soap and baking soda?

 

[White_widow]

personally, I would go with vinegar, salt, soap, and water while using the co2. This is because it would simultaneously cause expansion and chemically speed up the reaction to cyanoacrylate. Again, the reason for expansion is solely found in the surfactant (though to be fair, it can be limited by anti-foaming agents). That is why bubble soap works. Here, I'm going to help you out.

http://www.aquafoam.com/MilitaryDefenseLaw.html

Study the ingredients of some of these patents and you will find out alot.

 

[Symbiote-Man]

JMA610 said in the other forum that we should make the fluid biodegradable, we could work on that. How long was it? One hour? Personally, I would go for twenty four, since that way it doesn't lose it's strength so quickly.

I still can't find something good to strengthen it! AHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGG!!!!!

Any ideas? I'm out of strengthener ideas. I have looked EVERYWHERE!

 

[StanLee Wannabe]

Sorry I've been off the boards for awhile. What's new on this project?

 

[White_widow]

Symbioteman: For bio-degradability, there is several ideas, but I don't know how to make it dissolve it self unless it will dissolve in a weak acid that is a product of it's chemicals. There is another way to make it dissolve. There are plastics such as the ones in plastic bottle rings that become brittle and lose strength in light. Strength comes in chemical bonds.

To Stanleewannabe: We have been working on a formula. We found a shear thinning liquid that in theory is supposed to be very strong and biodegradable to bacteria. With a controlled ration of anti adhesive, vinegar, salt, orange juice, and superglue it might be possible to increase adhesive powers beyond that of contact cement.

 

[White_widow]

I still can't find something good to strengthen it! AHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGG!!!!!

Any ideas? I'm out of strengthener ideas. I have looked EVERYWHERE!

http://www.sell123.org/detail_24598.html

 

[White_widow]

I was bored and created a polymer. The classic Glue and borax, water and cornstarch, and added sugar between both experiments. The test was for more crosslinks. The result of more crosslinks was a ball that was not water soluable, dried within five minutes, had the same resonance structure as rubber, it bounces, it retains its shape, and it is stonger but much more brittle. It proves one thing about our current formula. The most crosslinks will make it harder to use. It allows us to remove the ---- --- powder which was replaced with sugar in the formula. This can change a few details. I don't know what this will mean, but I will assume that the current formula won't work but modifications will make it highly successful.

 

[Symbiote-Man]

Again, you solved my problem. White Widow, if you like Red X, you will love Spider-Man Noir. I have not read the comics, but the game Spider-Man Shattered Dimentions makes him look (and act) awesome! He is like a cross between Spider-Man and Batman!

 

[White_widow]

No problem. That's just an idea for you. That must be done under heat. As for noir, I know him. I read the comics and won most creative in a costume contest using his costume.

 

[Symbiote-Man]

Cool! His costume is my favorite part, next to the webbing, of course! As for heat, that might be okay, I can take apart some glue guns and make something. I am still thinking about a real spider-web, with glycine and alanine. The third idea is fibers, not sure if that would strengthen gum, but it is worth a shot, too.

 

[Symbiote-Man]

So here is the qualities I want in the web:

Streachy _/
Sticky _/
Strong _/
Expanding

Although my expansion test was successful, I realized it would only expand when the second mixture was mixed with it. I will look for something that will expand with contact with an object other than the cartridge. I also want it to expand quite a bit.

 

[Symbiote-Man]

http://www.aquafoam.com/MilitaryDefenseLaw.html
Whoops! I forgot this!


Expansion _/

 

[Symbiote-Man]

Is it just me, or did everyone's computers just crash for the week... Hello? Helloooooooooo? ANYONE?

 

[White_widow]

I'm just super busy. I had to build a roller coaster prototype in Physics which took a total of way over twenty collective hours outside of class, not to mention time and money spent buying materials for it, and the frustration of a member not pulling his load when it comes to the lift system that he promised he would make. In the end, we settled for a handmade crank, that I had to make since that one member didn't help, one member didn't know how to theorize, and one member had adhd, so he was distracted because his eaily frustrated girlfriend was in the group.

 

[spidey44]

Wow! That sucks!

 

[Symbiote-Man]

Wow! Honestly, the roller coaster sounds awesome. But it stinks your member guy didn't help.
I have most of the formula down. Now, (Once summer break starts, I really have to study!!!) I can start every scientist's most fun, irritating, dangerous, and coolest game...

TRIAL AND ERROR!!!
(To the layman, I GOT TO TEST A BUNCH OF STUFF! )

 

[Symbiote-Man]

With a controlled ration of anti adhesive, vinegar, salt, orange juice, and superglue it might be possible to increase adhesive powers beyond that of contact cement.

Anti Adhesive? Please explain how that plays a role in stickiness.

 

[White_widow]

I like that comment on trial and error. It is one hundred percent true. Now as for the anti-adhesive, aka solvent, it is used to keep the adhesive in liquid form so that it won't destroy the formula. Guarenteed, when the solvent evaporates, the glue will harden instantly, because the formula consists mostly of hydroxide.