Welcome to Earth One!

[PreK]

Wake me up when instead of doing the 30 millionth cover version of the origin they actually take Superman forward in an interesting way. Best origin in years was in All-Star Superman.

Eh, from what I've read of this book that's exactly what it's doing. Modern Supes comics have been rehashes of the old in fresh paint. Fans can flame what JMS has been changing, but at the very least he's actually translating the mythos to a modern context.

Also, don't you mean Secret Origins by Geoff Johns? I don't recall All-Star covering his origin. If so, your complaint and subsequent appraisal comes off as a bit hypocritical. As much as I liked that arc, it did nothing but pick-and-choose everything we've already seen and put it in a nicer package.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Eh, from what I've read of this book that's exactly what it's doing. Modern Supes comics have been rehashes of the old in fresh paint. Fans can flame what JMS has been changing, but at the very least he's actually translating the mythos to a modern context.

Also, don't you mean Secret Origins by Geoff Johns? I don't recall All-Star covering his origin. If so, your complaint and subsequent appraisal comes off as a bit hypocritical. As much as I liked that arc, it did nothing but pick-and-choose everything we've already seen and put it in a nicer package.

Doomed Planet
Desperate Scientists
Last Hope
Kindly Couple

 

[Tron Bonne]

Doomed Planet
Desperate Scientists
Last Hope
Kindly Couple

Yep, kind of all you really ever needed.

 

[echostation]

We need Alan Moore back on Superman or at least do some more Superman stories... his comics were classic

 

[Kurosawa]

Doomed Planet
Desperate Scientists
Last Hope
Kindly Couple

Exactly. Now go forward instead of rehashing and doing cover versions of the past.

 

[TwilightPro101]

Another review from Wired:

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/10/superman-earth-one-2/?pid=1595

Also more pages from Ain't It Cool News:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47186

 

[Motown Marvel]

wait, this isnt in continuity, right?

 

[HighFivingMF]

wait, this isnt in continuity, right?

Nope, it's own new continuity. The only other book in the same universe will be Batman: Earth One.

 

[Motown Marvel]

ok, good, yeah thats what i thought. it just seemed like these reviews were acting like its supermans new in continuity origin....and that bugs me.

 

[HighFivingMF]

ok, good, yeah thats what i thought. it just seemed like these reviews were acting like its supermans new in continuity origin....and that bugs me.

They also think making the character different from his peers and putting him in a hoody makes this the capes & tights equivalent of Twilight. Best just not to listen to them.

 

[Kurosawa]

Another review from Wired:

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/10/superman-earth-one-2/?pid=1595

Also more pages from Ain't It Cool News:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47186

I will say this much...if the villain destroying Krypton angle wasn't here, I would probably like this book very much. I like Superman being a more normal size, and I like the scenes where he explores being a scientist or a stockbroker, as they show his intellect. A lot of the ideas-Ma Kent making the costume from the blankets, Pa naming him Superman, etc, are actually very traditional ideas. I am a bit disappointed that Pa dies and Ma lives because that's yet again the gospel according to Dick Donner, but it's better than them both alive I guess. The more I see of it, the less I dislike it and I think it will at least be better than Grounded.

I think I will give it a look.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

I think what most people tend to forget is that this is Ultimate Superman in a matter of speaking so things will be changed so that you don't get it confused with New Earth Superman. I mean it is like what Marvel did with Ultimate Spider-Man, X-Men, the Ultimates, etc. They are changing the history here and I for one am okay with it. Just like how they are changing the history of Batman for Earth One. I for one am okay with this change as long as it stays on Earth One. I mean this is a whole new ongoing book there is nothing wrong with the changes their going to make because this is a new world. I am okay with change in this matter as long as the writing is good and at the end of the day you stay true to who and what Superman is and that he ends up with Lois that's one thing IMO that should never be messed with.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

I will say this much...if the villain destroying Krypton angle wasn't here, I would probably like this book very much. I like Superman being a more normal size, and I like the scenes where he explores being a scientist or a stockbroker, as they show his intellect. A lot of the ideas-Ma Kent making the costume from the blankets, Pa naming him Superman, etc, are actually very traditional ideas. I am a bit disappointed that Pa dies and Ma lives because that's yet again the gospel according to Dick Donner, but it's better than them both alive I guess. The more I see of it, the less I dislike it and I think it will at least be better than Grounded.

I think I will give it a look.

But for New Earth Superman (current Superman) it is strongly hinted that Brainiac was the cause for Krypton destruction.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Well, I do think it's possible for someone to understand this is an alternate continuity and still not be fond of certain aspects. I don't care much for the brooding, darker super heroes, period, so a brooding, darker Superman doesn't appeal to me, alternate universe or not. Not all of it sounds that bad, though, but I still don't have a huge amount of care for a 'modern' retelling of something, that's already been 'moderning' retold several times, and something that you really don't even need anymore. The whole concept of Earth One/Ultimate is like that to me, though, so I'm obviously not the audience.

But for New Earth Superman (current Superman) it is strongly hinted that Brainiac was the cause for Krypton destruction.

It was? When?

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

It was? When?

Since the Geoff Johns Brainiac arc.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Oh, well, that's relatively new then. Eh, unless Johns outright follows that up, I'm going to stick with that just being a fanwankery to the animated show. There's really no reason for Krypton to be destroyed by anyone.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Oh, well, that's relatively new then. Eh, unless Johns outright follows that up, I'm going to stick with that just being a fanwankery to the animated show. There's really no reason for Krypton to be destroyed by anyone.

He did and it has all through out the New Krypton story arc. Right down to Last Stand of New Krypton. It is strongly suggested that Brainiac is the cause of Krypton's sun going nova.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Well, this is the first I remember hearing anything about this. What exactly was in the books to suggest this, since it seems like this would be something that would be talked about more in relation to New Krypton when it was coming out.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Well, this is the first I remember hearing anything about this. What exactly was in the books to suggest this, since it seems like this would be something that would be talked about more in relation to New Krypton when it was coming out.

It starts in the Geoff Johns Brainiac arc where Superman is captured by him and Brainiac tells Superman he is going to destroy Earth's Sun just like how he did Krypton's. Then from there you have him talking about with Luthor and in LSONK how he is going to destroy New Krypton like how he destroyed Krypton. So from Johns arc things changed and Brainiac is the cause of Krypton's death.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Well, that's pretty stupid. I really don't what the point of that is suppose to be. Guess Johns a fan of the animated show or something (even though he really didn't destroy Krypton per say in that).

 

[Drz]

Newsarama has an review up!

And there's a lot more I could say about Earth One, like the surprisingly light portrayal of Lois Lane or the complete bad-ass (and absolutely accurate, from a photojournalism perspective) overhaul of Jimmy Olsen, but I don't want to give too much away. It's not unfair to say that Superman: Earth One is a flawed work, particularly since there are so many other recent origins for the Man of Steel (including Superman: Secret Origin or, my personal favorite, Superman: Birthright) that have had more solidity to their central premise. But as far as uncomplicated popcorn entertainment — and perhaps more importantly, something unencumbered by continuity or sci-fi weirdness that might scare off new readers — this is certainly a stylishly-drawn calling card to hook people into more of Superman's adventures.

The book actually spoils about something that i don't even wish to imply or guess what it is. The reviewer liked the new villain simply because it was something new, really he pretty much just liked that it wasn't Zod, Luthor or Brainiac, but doesn't really tell the reader *why* he liked the villain.. Outside not being Zod/Luthor/Brainiac. >_>

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Eh, from what I've read of this book that's exactly what it's doing. Modern Supes comics have been rehashes of the old in fresh paint. Fans can flame what JMS has been changing, but at the very least he's actually translating the mythos to a modern context.

Pff... do you really think Superman is still the same as he was in 38? He's always went with the time, "modern context"? What's that supposed to mean? Is everyone a Twilight emo these days? It hurts Superman that everyone is trying to fix him as soon as they get their hands on him. How often have we heard from the new team taking over phrases like "We want to show why he is relevant", "modernizing his relationship with Lois", "We want to show why he does what he does". And every time we got the same BS. They do not even try to do something new, is Twilight Superman something new? In the 80s we got X-Men Superman. The only thing most writers can do with Superman is rewriting his origin. Because it's not very difficult to do. But then it's over. They aren't capable of doing other things. They cannot invent new additions to the mythos. Say what you want about the Silver Age, but it was back then when the reshaped Superman's world.

And yes, I think this direction is the wrong one, again. Insecurity is nothing that will boost Superman's popularity and success. it will further diminish his legacy.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

I think JMS is not even behind his own take. He's just doing it because he feels that will make it popular.

 

[Drz]

That might be true about Superman as a character, but he constantly has talked about how he wants to make Daily Bugle more "real" since he was a journalist and "knows better than anyone else in comics" how newspapers work.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

That might be true about Superman as a character, but he constantly has talked about how he wants to make Daily Bugle more "real" since he was a journalist and "knows better than anyone else in comics" how newspapers work.

well, okay, it's JMS, a truly modest guy at heart!