The Dark Knight Well....this is intresting? (Joker news)

[Two-Face]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! sounds good!!!

 

[DV8]

I've been talking to Jett about that EXACTLY that thing and he says its not gonna be small, as in a "cameo" or even small at all. Just very mysterious. But IMO, thats not the Joker we all know and love from the comics, as we were told we were getting.

I disagree . . . I think that the Joker being mysterious, and not too over-the-top is exactly the kind of Joker this franchise needs . . . plus Batman is a detective! That gives him more of a chance to flex those muscles

But . . . I want to see the Joker do some hardcore shyt!! I don't want him to have a small role!! Possibly less screen time, which doesn't mean that his 'role' is small . . . but if they're saying that his role will be bigger in the 3rd . . .. goddam it! I can't wait that long!!!

 

[Ronny Shade]

but figure this:

The Joker is an attention ****e. It's okay if his motives and origins are mysterious (I prefer that actuallly), but he shouldn't be lurking in shadows and hiding. That's just not like him.

 

[thedarks0ldier]

Liam Neeson's characters could fit under the "small and mysterious" term

 

[Two-Face]

I thought Batman would try finding out that was doing these murders that near end of the film Joker is relaved

 

[DV8]

but figure this:

The Joker is an attention ****e. It's okay if his motives and origins are mysterious (I prefer that actuallly), but he shouldn't be lurking in shadows and hiding. That's just not like him.

I hear you . . . and I by no means think that they should detract from the comic-book Joker like they did in BM 89 . . . but just think . . . he could show up, do damage, and then mysteriously vanish like Batman does . . . I think they're really going to do a good job, now that I think about it . . .

 

[Ronny Shade]

It could work. but not if they make him some depressed guy who laughs about stuff to himself in a straight jacket and hides in the shadows so no one can see him laughing or something.

 

[Two-Face]

Let's just wait see what the movie will like....

 

[Ronny Shade]

yes let's

 

["V"]

I think this could work work if we had a slow build up in the first half, a host of mysterious killings like "Man who laughs". Batman, Gordon and Dent get a tip off about a drug bust on the docks and when they get there find a host of corpses all bearing manic grins. They then work together Long Halloween style to try and find out who is behind this and then in the last half an hour the Joker elaborately reveals himself to the Gotham public and tries to execute his grand scheme.

The only problem with a scenario like this is that the fans will all know it's Joker who would be behind this. It will be interesting to see how "mysterious" his role really is.

 

[raybia]

Liam Neeson's characters could fit under the "small and mysterious" term

OMG, don't tell me that Joker is really...Ra's !



THAT WOULD SUCK!

 

[ultimatefan]

but figure this:

The Joker is an attention ****e. It's okay if his motives and origins are mysterious (I prefer that actuallly), but he shouldn't be lurking in shadows and hiding. That's just not like him.

Like I said, wait and see. And remember they´re still working on the script.

 

[Ronny Shade]

OMG, don't tell me that Joker is really...Ra's !



THAT WOULD SUCK!

LOL

 

[thedarks0ldier]

well then you make black mask the culpret, make joker seem like the man to blame, and have dent kill black mask, or reveal dent to be the culpret and not know it (multiple personality dissorder)

 

[Ronny Shade]

but Dent's MPD isn't dissociative

 

[Babs Gordon]

generally i'm going to essentially ignore stuff coming off of BOF. sure some things may turn out to be right but there are typically an awful lot of letdowns in the mix. after years of checking out that site i've started to realize that checking the news there, more often than not, doesn't give me that much more. rumors aren't that satisfying in the long run.

if the joker's role is small they are probably referring to screentime. and honestly, i'd prefer it that way. it's more gripping. like batman, the joker is going to evolve as his career in crime progresses. perhaps he's less confident to start, more of a reclusive psychopath who is still developing. there are lots of cool possibilities here.

 

[Ronny Shade]

I don't want the Joker being reclusive. That's just unforgivable IMO.

 

[Equinox]

I don't want the Joker being reclusive. That's just unforgivable IMO.

Guys! Nothing has been finalised yet... All these are just rumors... Even the script isnt done yet... Lets be patient and see how it all turns out...

 

[Babs Gordon]

i don't mean reclusive per se, i just mean operating under the radar for a bit. perhaps unintentionally.

if blatant debauchery is used from start to finish... where's the mystery? sure you can argue it's in his origins but even DC hasn't established where they guy came from. i don't anticipate they'll explore and reveal them in a franchise movie if they do.

i think that's good story telling and is perfectly forgiveable.

 

[Ronny Shade]

as long as he's not hiding out of fear or shyness, fine.

But of all comicbook villains in all of history the Joker is the most likely to realistically show up and make some big spectacle and announce himself to the world. This has been an overused gesture in the past with villains, but with the Joker (and usually ONLY the joker) it works.

 

[Babs Gordon]

but in the comic book movie world, don't you think that's getting a bit cliché? i suppose one could argue 'clichés be damned!'... i just want it done well and not 'comic booky' or cheesy. i can't see it done in a non-cheesy way. maybe it's just because i can't think outside the box at the moment.

 

[Ronny Shade]

but in the comic book movie world, don't you think that's getting a bit cliché? i suppose one could argue 'clichés be damned!'... i just want it done well and not 'comic booky' or cheesy. i can't see it done in a non-cheesy way. maybe it's just because i can't think outside the box at the moment.

It's a cliche because it works. Usually in most cases it totally sucks and is out of character for the villain and creates major cheese, I agree. but Joker is a different story. Take Return of the Joker for example. Works great. I love it.

 

[Babs Gordon]

yeah... but that's a cartoon. i love ROTJ... but i wouldn't apply anything used in batman beyond to begins. it's like comparing broadway theater with the big screen. everything is bigger, gaudier... because it needs to be.

subtlety is the big screen's friend sometimes.

 

[Ronny Shade]

Yeah I know.

But subtlety has never been the Joker's friend.

That's all I'm saying

 

[L0ngsh0t]

I like Hugo too but he seems to be getting a little overexposed.

dude, don't misquote me like that, what i said was, i am a huge Hugo Weaving fan, but i am not sold on him as the joker yet\