The Dark Knight Well....this is intresting? (Joker news)

[Mr. Socko]

We've known for a long time that there was never a plan to go with one main villain in each movie. I think one of aspects of the "realism" here is that Batman's enemies don't strike one after the other. They're all out there doing bad things all at the same time.

Ra's Al Ghul was still the main villian of Batman Begins. Not Scarecrow.

And if they're all about striking at the same time then lets have Joker, Freeze, Riddler, Bane, Man-Bat, Black Mask, Scarface, and Two Face all in one movie!

 

[Brian2887]

But in one of the films, he must be the main villian.

Which is what's being set up for #3. In 2, he's probably the wild card, operating in the underworld with his own chaotic agenda. By 3, he'll be large and in charge.

 

[The Fallen]

Brian... I like that idea. Build up the Joker...

 

[Mr. Socko]

Brian... I like that idea. Build up the Joker...

I like it too

 

[El Payaso]

You think by BB 4 or 5 we'll have him at last?

 

[trustyside-kick]

Which is what's being set up for #3. In 2, he's probably the wild card, operating in the underworld with his own chaotic agenda. By 3, he'll be large and in charge.

Ya that is basically what Goyer has been hinting at right?

 

[Mr. Socko]

Nah, by Batman 542 the Joker can be the main villian

 

[StorminNorman]

Time for my two cents.

I believe that Hulme is the dark Horse candidate - it makes sense, he is a true no name, he is Australian, and he does not have a single role that we can point to and say "here is talent".

Law makes sense as a WB choice, he is a name guy, he is a "sexy" guy, he is a media move.

Hugo Weavng makes sense because his name hold water among the comic fan base. Comic geeks loved him as V, Agent Smith and in LOTR - he would be a big name for that community. His name does not have the selling power of Law however when it comes from a Main Streme perspective.

I am not sure how much weight to give this report however when it comes to Paul Bettany. We know that his name has been mentioned by Chris Nolan - he and the Bat bunch were heard discussing him on the set of the Prestige - plus his name has been mentioned the longest of any of teh candidates and his name has frequently been mentioned. I can't believe that EVERY single report we have gotten about Bettany has been wrong.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Time for my two cents.

I believe that Hulme is the dark Horse candidate - it makes sense, he is a true no name, he is Australian, and he does not have a single role that we can point to and say "here is talent".

Brilliant! This is why he should be cast!!!

hehe, I agree. Hulme is the dark horse who just might pull the win away.

Law makes sense as a WB choice, he is a name guy, he is a "sexy" guy, he is a media move.

True.

Hugo Weavng makes sense because his name hold water among the comic fan base. Comic geeks loved him as V, Agent Smith and in LOTR - he would be a big name for that community. His name does not have the selling power of Law however when it comes from a Main Streme perspective.

I want Hugo to be the Joker now

I am not sure how much weight to give this report however when it comes to Paul Bettany. We know that his name has been mentioned by Chris Nolan - he and the Bat bunch were heard discussing him on the set of the Prestige - plus his name has been mentioned the longest of any of teh candidates and his name has frequently been mentioned. I can't believe that EVERY single report we have gotten about Bettany has been wrong.

You still hold on hope for Bettany and I'll still hold on hope for Depp or Weaving

 

[StorminNorman]

Ladies and Gentlepeoples:

 

[Mr. Socko]

Now, it doesn't bother me who is cast as The Joker. I'm sure Nolan will make a fine choice in casting the Clown Prince of Crime. I'm not worried about that bit. There are tons of candidates, Nolan will choose the best.

 

[The Guard]

Not "uber-faithful"..."uber" sounds stupid man, lol... But at its core, he is faithful.

That really depends on if you believe his core does not involve several of the most important motivations he's ever had in the comics, and involves a completely different worldview than the one he has in the comics.

 

[StorminNorman]

How is the Batman Musical going Guard?

 

[Keyser Sushi]

Ra's Al Ghul was still the main villian of Batman Begins. Not Scarecrow.

I never said Scarecrow was. I said it was reported that they did not plan to go with a single main villain for the sequels.

And if they're all about striking at the same time then lets have Joker, Freeze, Riddler, Bane, Man-Bat, Black Mask, Scarface, and Two Face all in one movie!

Obviously, good storytelling demands that the characters who appear have some kind of way of connecting... and that they shouldn't pull a Jeph Loeb and have every character ever created appear in the story... but still, Batman should have his hands full at all times.

From what we've heard, the way they plan to use the Joker is that he's the royal pain in the ass who shows up at all the wrongs times and ruins things for EVERYBODY... the good guys, the bad guys... EVERYBODY.

 

[The Fallen]

^ And that's what will make the Joker different and stand out from the likes of Ra's and Scarecrow. He's a loon and chaos incarnate... who know's what he'll do!?

 

[Calendar Man]

All I have to say is....

Could Jude Law ever play a respectable Joker? No. (And I won't see it if he is in that role.)

Should The Joker's role be small? Hell no. (Unless they are saving him up for the third film.)

I was just starting to like the idea of Bettany....

 

[GoldenState]

Wasnt Joker's role always suppose to be small in the second with the third having more of a main focus on him? Second one just sets up things for Joker in the third while focusing on other things.

I remember hearing that Joker would kill Holmes character in the second, that would be the way to go imo.

 

[LadyVader]

I'm still rooting for Rockwell!

 

[El Payaso]

I remember hearing that Joker would kill Holmes character in the second, that would be the way to go imo.

Let's say i wouldn't mind even if Gordon kills her.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Ouch lol. Feeling the love for Rachel and it hurts.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Wasnt Joker's role always suppose to be small in the second with the third having more of a main focus on him? Second one just sets up things for Joker in the third while focusing on other things.

I remember hearing that Joker would kill Holmes character in the second, that would be the way to go imo.

I agree.

 

[StorminNorman]

Wasnt Joker's role always suppose to be small in the second with the third having more of a main focus on him? Second one just sets up things for Joker in the third while focusing on other things.

I remember hearing that Joker would kill Holmes character in the second, that would be the way to go imo.

We dont know one way or another - I could see it easily working though. Have the mob be the main focus in the second film, pump it full of TLH goodness (mobs v. freaks, Dent v. mob, etc.) and then have the Joker emerge fully at the end of 2 and all of 3. Also the Joker needs to beat up Harvey Dent ala TLH.

 

[Mr. Socko]

The mods have advised me to not "gay-bash" as they call it, so I'll do the opposite and suggest a love scene between The Joker and a random thug of his.

All in favor of my suggestion say Aye.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Lmao. When and why (cause of which thread?) did they do that. Haha.

 

[DV8]

Wasnt Joker's role always suppose to be small in the second with the third having more of a main focus on him? Second one just sets up things for Joker in the third while focusing on other things.

I remember hearing that Joker would kill Holmes character in the second, that would be the way to go imo.

hahahahaha . . . all that stuff you said I think was speculation by Hype members . . . no weight to any of it, but that's how I hope it works out!

I think the general factual consensus (as close as it gets to fact, anyway) is that they're really saving Two-Face for the 3rd.