The Amazing Spider-Man What do you want out of Spider-man 4???

One thing I don't understand is, if they want multiple villains, then use one up to start the film! Why does a villain have to be part of the plot? Open the movie with a throw down brawl on the streets of NY with Electro or Rhino trying to rob a bank. Have Spider-Man win and leave the villain webbed up. The coolness factor would be satisfied. Fans would be satisfied and the story could take its time developing after an action packed opening. It would eat a big part of the budget but it would also give many cool "trailer clip" sequences. I'm longing for a film that keeps some action from the heart of a film out of the trailers. SM3's budget featured four major brawls and one major rescue sequence. Move one of those brawls up front. The Lethal Weapon sequels opened in such a fashion. Blowing up a building or taking out a flame throwing armored man had nothing to do with the plot but was a great way to open. It defines character and provides free reign on action.
I agree with you on an action scene in the beginning. But, I don't think they should have villains in the beginning just for the sake of action. They should contribute to the plot in some ways, maybe be used in future installments, plots, or later in the story.
 
I agree with you on an action scene in the beginning. But, I don't think they should have villains in the beginning just for the sake of action. They should contribute to the plot in some ways, maybe be used in future installments, plots, or later in the story.
I agree, unless it's a very small villain that no one cares about or a villain that just can't hold a movie. If it's a villain that a lot of people care about, they might possibly feel like they were wasted and should have been developed if used at all.
 
I agree, unless it's a very small villain that no one cares about or a villain that just can't hold a movie. If it's a villain that a lot of people care about, they might possibly feel like they were wasted and should have been developed if used at all.

The Rhino certainly fits that description. What about the Shocker? Spider-Man has a ton of villains that they can use that can never hold an entire film on their own.
 
The Rhino certainly fits that description. What about the Shocker? Spider-Man has a ton of villains that they can use that can never hold an entire film on their own.
Very true.
 
What's wrong with making changes? It worked for the Dark Knight.
Of course theres gonna be changes, theres always changes. But if the changes your talking about about the Dark Knight is something like Joker's skin, thats nothing compared to changeing someone's power set. The point of Chameleon is that he is not a physical fighter with strength powers.
 
Of course theres gonna be changes, theres always changes. But if the changes your talking about about the Dark Knight is something like Joker's skin, thats nothing compared to changeing someone's power set. The point of Chameleon is that he is not a physical fighter with strength powers.

I see where you are coming from, but like I said the interesting part of the fight would be the pyschological part of the fight and seeing all previous actors again. That's why it would be a sweet fight. But they would probably end up giving chameleon some physical ability and possibly even have him mimic powers so there would be a decent brawl too. That's just how they have to make blockbuster movies.

And they did more than just change the joker's skin. They gave him a cut smile, and he no longer used gags weapons or his famous laughing venom. Instead he just used guns, bombs, and knives. That's a huge change.
 
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No its not. They went closer to how Joker was in his first couple of appearences in the comics, sans the scar.
 
They could really tone down on everything being so sentimental this time. The villians don't need to be sympathetic . I want to see the sinister six storyline built up over the next couple films. A villian at the begining is a good idea but they should come back into the story at another point.

I'd like to see SM4 and 5 filmed together so at the end of 4 we get a cliffhanger. Screen reads " To be continued" in true comic fashion.
 
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No its not. They went closer to how Joker was in his first couple of appearences in the comics, sans the scar.

He still used joker venom to kill people in his early appearances and not by cutting up their face with a knife like in the Dark Knight.
 
. No Venom or symbiote. They ****ed up the character, simple as that. Let's just move on

. Cool opening scene

. No sympathetic villain


. A villain that can hold his own

. No more constant *****ing from MJ

. Get Kirsten Dunst back in shape. She looked great in 1, imo, but I thought she looked awful in 2 and 3.
 
Only two major villains. A cameo of a thrid or fourth would be fine. I would like a Lizard/Kraven combo...but if it goes another route, I'm not gonna cry. If they do have Lizard, I want Raimi to make him creepy. If he can make Ock scary, he can make Lizard a nightmare.

Know what I can see Raimi maybe doing? A death of Gwen Stacy story. I can see him incorporating that somehow.

I can definitively say what I don't want. That would be
1. No dancing.
2. No Goblin (we are done with that story).
3. No symbiote (see above)
 
  1. Danny Elfman
  2. NO ressurections (they totally cheapened Norman's death in the comics by bringing him back).
  3. Spidey keeping his mask during the final fight.
  4. Avoid Spidey's identity getting revealed.
 
I want...Spider-Man's mask to stay on while fighting, no dancing, cool fight scenes, Lizard/Kraven, Spider-Man's identity is not revealed, and just a good, plausible plot. :D
 
I'd like MJ to ****, stop bed hopping, and just support Pete so he can go out and kick some arse. I understand that Pete needs drama in his personal life, but I just don't want it to always be about the ging giving him sh**.
 
-Two villains

-For the movie not to focus too much on Peter and MJ's relationship

-If the Lizard isn't the villain I don't any sympathetic villains

-No symbiotes

-Keep Spidey from taking off his mask during the middle of a fight. Why Raimi likes doing this? I have no idea

-For the villain not to find out who Spider-man is

-None of the villains turn nice at the end(If Lizard is in then this is an exception)

-For Spidey to say "My spider-sense is tingling."

-For Spidey to crack jokes and annoy the villains. He does this in the video games based off the movies so why not in the actual movie? This is one thing that really bugs me.

-A fight scene that's violent just like the final battle between Spidey and GG. I cannot watch that without cringing. Why didn't the other two have fight scenes that violent? Did soccer moms complain about it?
 
I want...Spider-Man's mask to stay on while fighting, no dancing, cool fight scenes, Lizard/Kraven, Spider-Man's identity is not revealed, and just a good, plausible plot. :D

If Lizard is a villain, I think it's likely that Connors will learn Spider-man's identity...if he's the only one, that suits me fine.
 
I kinda hope they introduce Ned Leeds at the Bugle. This way they can stretch is character out for him to become HobGoblin in SM5. I know a lot of people don't want another goblin, but he's one of my favorite villains.

edit: Or even if Kingsley is introduced as a fasion designer for Gwen
 
I kinda hope they introduce Ned Leeds at the Bugle. This way they can stretch is character out for him to become HobGoblin in SM5. I know a lot of people don't want another goblin, but he's one of my favorite villains.

edit: Or even if Kingsley is introduced as a fasion designer for Gwen
I am all for that setup. Would love to see other supporting characters brought in for future stories instead of just a minor cameo. I have nothing against seeing Hobby in a future movie beyond SM4.
 

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