What does it mean to be black?

Ladies and gentlemen, Matt knows what it is like to be like you. He looooves grape soda. He knows what its like when "the man" at the super market won't take food stamps or to wait all month for a welfare check *waves arms in the air* HEY! HO! HEY! HO! :cwink:

Joking, of course. Great post Raybia :up:

it's orange soda, let's get it right :o
 
I don't know how to dance and I'm pretty sure I don't know how to sing. I hate Watermelon and any melon for that matter and I don't like hotsauce on my fried chicken.

Do I get to keep my black card?

Ryhthm: check
Good singing voice: check
Likes orange soda: check
Big schlong: check

I'm not black, but maybe you could just give me your card :D
 
Ryhthm: check
Good singing voice: check
Likes orange soda: check
Big schlong: check

I'm not black, but maybe you could just give me your card :D

When a girl says its a good size....that means its small.....but 3 out of 4 isnt bad:oldrazz:
 
Does anyone besides me remember a rap group back in the early 90s called Young Black Teenagers? The members were all white, and their philosophy was "being black is a state of mind". This thread kinda reminded me of that.
 
BlackLantern said:
As far as Africa is concerned, they are not too friendly towards black Americans. I never focused on it and am surprised that so many people still do today

Why is that?I would have thought they would stay in touch with their family and such.Do they think living in America is a "easy life" and hate or envy them for it?

I disagree. It is not possible to export 38 million blacks without having a complete race war break out.

Nor would African Americans voluntarily leave America. Why would we? This is our home. We don't know anything about living in Africa. In fact I believe a majority of Africans would move to the U.S. if given the opportunity.

We would not leave to go to Africa no more than Whites would leave America to move to Europe.

I am an American and I love America and I support it when its right and when its wrong then I don't leave it, I try to fix it.

I would have thought to hear a rough reply,but that's well thought out.That's very honorable,yes America is the "nation of immigrants" but not always so.I also thought you were from the middle east,not africa.
 
Why is that?I would have thought they would stay in touch with their family and such.Do they think living in America is a "easy life" and hate or envy them for it?



I would have thought to hear a rough reply,but that's well thought out.That's very honorable,yes America is the "nation of immigrants" but not always so.I also thought you were from the middle east,not africa.

Well considering when slaves were taken against their will, they lost all touch with any family they had. My family, we have managed to trace our family all the way back to 1863...my ancestors were slaves owned by a Virginia farmer, and when he died sometime later he left the land to them.

I wouldnt know why some Africans feel that way, I just know that some just dont like American blacks...
 
Why is that?I would have thought they would stay in touch with their family and such.Do they think living in America is a "easy life" and hate or envy them for it?

I would have thought to hear a rough reply,but that's well thought out.That's very honorable,yes America is the "nation of immigrants" but not always so.I also thought you were from the middle east,not africa.

I can understand why Africans don't see African Americans as family. I mean they have their own culture and languages. Plus its not like your directly related as they haven't lived or had their relatives live in africa for hundereds of years.

Most africans are friendly nice people who would share with you their last piece of food even if it meant they went with out for a week. But for any african american to turn up in africa and expect african people to say hey we are like family would be delousional.

Its like a white american whos great great grand father was scottish to walk up to a scotsman and say we are family.
 
Q: What does it mean to be black?
A: MANDINGO

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Destroyers of puppies and slayers of orphans.

---Morzan
 
I don't know how to dance and I'm pretty sure I don't know how to sing. I hate Watermelon and any melon for that matter and I don't like hotsauce on my fried chicken.

Do I get to keep my black card?

No.:o
 
I don't know how to dance and I'm pretty sure I don't know how to sing. I hate Watermelon and any melon for that matter and I don't like hotsauce on my fried chicken.

Do I get to keep my black card?

that's it, hand over your blackness card.

(i actually heard a black person say that to another black guy, for not being "black enough")...
 
My sentiments exactly. I hear this question come from the mouth of blacks way too often and as long as it does then we are the ones guilty of perpetuating the stereotypes given to African Americans throughout our history.

Its one thing for non-blacks to believe these misconceptions but once we as Blacks buy into them then what you have is...well what you have is the present day African-American community.

Too many of us have accepted a culture or lifestyle that was deemed "Black" (a culture that in many ways was not created or designed by us personally), that is essentially a "culture of death".

Death in terms of moral death, spiritual death, mental (intellectual) death, socio/economic death, political death all which leads to the premature physical deaths of African-American.

Once we change our mentality and change our culture (by removing the worst aspects of our culture but retaining the best ones; the ones that are conducive to a health life) we will see a change for the better regarding our situation.

i think you and i talking to each other is just preaching to the choir, hehe.

i see all these talk shows and stuff these days with black activists trying to attack rap music, accusing it of making black people look bad, and all that stuff.

i just sit there and think to myself about how much bull**** that is.

if you don't want rap music, or any kind of music, to define you as a person, don't let it! it's not about making rap artists change their act, it's about you not letting somebody else define who you are.

as a white male, i don't see nelly as being a spokesperson for black people. i don't see nelly on bet and think "wow, black people are <insert stereotype here>". i see NELLY as that. or whatever rapper is putting themselves out there like that. and if nelly wants to bring that attention upon himself, so be it.

if other people are lumping an entire group of people into that category, why does it matter? why are those people so special?

you aren't like that, and neither is any black person who know, most likely. don't let that **** bring you down. other races want to look at white people a certain way - that we are rich, priveledged, and don't go through any financial struggle. that we always hold the power. that's not me. i wasn't born into wealth. my parents have worked just as hard as anybody to earn what they have. i don't like the stereotypes against white people either. but i'll be damned if i'm going to go out and try to stop dave chappelle, or chris rock, or any black comedian, or entertainer, from doing their acts just because i don't like it. i might not like it, but that's okay. i don't have to watch it. it's that simple.

don't let other people define who you are. if you don't want to be affiliated with rap music, then don't allow yourself to be.

it's a mentality that we as a people need to overcome. not white, not black, not mexican, not asian, not middle eastern, or indian, or jewish, or christian, but as a people, as americans, we need to come together and overcome this mentality, or else we will NEVER truly progress to a state of being truly equal.
 
i think you and i talking to each other is just preaching to the choir, hehe.

i see all these talk shows and stuff these days with black activists trying to attack rap music, accusing it of making black people look bad, and all that stuff.

i just sit there and think to myself about how much bull**** that is.

if you don't want rap music, or any kind of music, to define you as a person, don't let it! it's not about making rap artists change their act, it's about you not letting somebody else define who you are.

I agree that individually a person should not let other people define them or even let society define them. You are defined by the live you live. Rap music in its present form did originate in the black community and is an expression of African-American culture. There is nothing
wrong with Rap per se, though I'm not a fan of it, but the problem lies within the lyrics and even more so, the rated NR and X videos. I have a BIG PROBLEM with that and I don't consider it a part of my individual culture. But this can be said of any art form that is perverted for whatever reason.


as a white male, i don't see nelly as being a spokesperson for black people. i don't see nelly on bet and think "wow, black people are <insert stereotype here>". i see NELLY as that. or whatever rapper is putting themselves out there like that. and if nelly wants to bring that attention upon himself, so be it.

Neither do I however there are many people regardless of
race, nationality, and ethnicity that are both consciously and subconsciously influenced (programmed) by the music and music videos associated with blacks and black culture.


if other people are lumping an entire group of people into that category, why does it matter? why are those people so special?

I does matter because people are programmed to think this way and the way a person thinks influences the way they act. So consider the ramifications of millions of people on various levels of society who have bought in to stereotypes and misconceptions of not only black people but any and all people that are wrongly portrayed.





it's a mentality that we as a people need to overcome. not white, not black, not mexican, not asian, not middle eastern, or indian, or jewish, or christian, but as a people, as americans, we need to come together and overcome this mentality, or else we will NEVER truly progress to a state of being truly equal.

Agree.
 
Great thread Raybia. You seem to be saying, and correct me if I am wrong, that by being "black" you are just being. You happen to be black and you are not letting the color of your skin affect the way you act. You are just being who you are and you are not letting race define that for you. Americans of all races could learn something from you. Kudos, man. :up:
 
Great thread Raybia. You seem to be saying, and correct me if I am wrong, that by being "black" you are just being. You happen to be black and you are not letting the color of your skin affect the way you act. You are just being who you are and you are not letting race define that for you. Americans of all races could learn something from you. Kudos, man. :up:

That is it exactly!

Now with that said, I have to admit that for many years I have unwittingly let race define me. For example, when I was in my teens, I listened to rap because that is what most of my friends listened to and it was used for table discussion.

Now that I am...much older, I realize that I not only dislike rap, I never did (Overall). My love is Jazz, classical and most R&B from the 60s and 70s...as well as groups like the Beatles, Eagles, and Elton John! :wow:

Once I learned that I wasn't defined by race, I allowed myself to enjoy the various aspects of world culture and I have grown by leaps and bounds as a person as I have become more diverse in my thinking and behavior and overall attitude.

What I am trying to say is that if we dismiss whole societies of people we are the ones who lose so so much as a result.

The world can be a beautiful place and its worth fighting for.
 
That is it exactly!

Now with that said, I have to admit that for many years I have unwittingly let race define me. For example, when I was in my teens, I listened to rap because that is what most of my friends listened to and it was used for table discussion.

Now that I am...much older, I realize that I not only dislike rap, I never did (Overall). My love is Jazz, classical and most R&B from the 60s and 70s...as well as groups like the Beatles, Eagles, and Elton John! :wow:

Once I learned that I wasn't defined by race, I allowed myself to enjoy the various aspects of world culture and I have grown by leaps and bounds as a person as I have become more diverse in my thinking and behavior and overall attitude.

What I am trying to say is that if we dismiss whole societies of people we are the ones who lose so so much as a result.

The world can be a beautiful place and its worth fighting for.
I was the same way when I was a kid too. I listened to rap because that was what was popular at the time, and eventhough I am white, too me it seemed to define my generation. So in a weird way I thought I was "supposed" to listen to it. Now I listen to everything. Like you, I grew up and realized that being true to myself and embracing what I wanted was more important that a group of people I don't know telling me what I should and should like.

Interesting that white and black youth turns out to not be very different afterall.
 
I was the same way when I was a kid too. I listened to rap because that was what was popular at the time, and eventhough I am white, too me it seemed to define my generation. So in a weird way I thought I was "supposed" to listen to it. Now I listen to everything. Like you, I grew up and realized that being true to myself and embracing what I wanted was more important that a group of people I don't know telling me what I should and should like.

Interesting that white and black youth turns out to not be very different afterall.

That reminds me of a time last summer. I was at a stop light and this Chevy Impala with the spinner rims pulls up and this gangster rap was blaring and the bass was so loud my heart could feel it. I looked over to see who these to brothas were and it was two young white guys dressed in urban gear bobbin their heads to the beat. :wow: :woot:

When you make a specific culture your life, regardless if you have racial or ethnic ties to that culture, you become that culture and that culture becomes
you.

That is not necessarily a good thing. People should remember and take heed of the age old saying, "You are what you eat (consume)!
 
My stance is that the lines between ethnic cultures are blurring and giving way to an American culture. A lot of the things that were considered "black" are now embraced by everyone, and I think that is cool myself. White kids listening to rap is okay, as long as they are doing it because they honestly like it and not because MTV told them they'd be cooler if they did.
 
My stance is that the lines between ethnic cultures are blurring and giving way to an American culture. A lot of the things that were considered "black" are now embraced by everyone, and I think that is cool myself. White kids listening to rap is okay, as long as they are doing it because they honestly like it and not because MTV told them they'd be cooler if they did.

That is my suspicion that many people especially teens and young people are embrace things because of programming.

I do agree that about the emerging "American pop culture. Just because its popular doesn't make it right. So again, I take the best aspects of black, American, and other cultures that I come into contact with and make it my own.

Its better that way...for me.
 
Still, I'm just as racist as anyone...

When I was a kid I thought all black people were like the Huxtables.
 
Still, I'm just as racist as anyone...

When I was a kid I thought all black people were like the Huxtables.

I don't know if racist would be the right word. We all have prejudices and misconceptions about each other and even ourselves.

I even have prejudices about my own people that I recognize and am trying to conquer.
 
I don't know if racist would be the right word. We all have prejudices and misconceptions about each other and even ourselves.

I even have prejudices about my own people that I recognize and am trying to conquer.

Misconceptions is the right word. Most black people can tell when someone is being racist or is just uneducated or unexposed to another.
race.
 

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