What don't you like about The Fox X-Men Cinematic Universe

[Decepticonus]

Another problem with the X Men films IMO is Brian Singer. He is still responsible for the terrible characterizations, ****** costumes, misrepresented powers and blatant unneccessary source material deviations. While certainly looking forward to Apocalypse, I'm glad someone new is taking over.

Agreed. I'm sold he never even read the comics sometimes.

 

[Flint Marko]

If I must be totally honest,I slightly give more credit to Sam Raimi's Spider-Man for its quality and especially Its sensational box office numbers. Singer is a great storyteller but he made oh so many changes.

Agreed. X-men proved a comic book movie could work, Spider-man proved a comic book movie could be a hit.

Another problem with the X Men films IMO is Brian Singer. He is still responsible for the terrible characterizations, ****** costumes, misrepresented powers and blatant unneccessary source material deviations. While certainly looking forward to Apocalypse, I'm glad someone new is taking over.

For what it's worth, every time Fox has tried to make a Marvel movie without Singer involved it doesn't turn out so well. The Wolverine is the only exception, but that film is crashingly mediocre. I have my quibbles with Singer, but he's really the only person to ever bring credibility to the Fox/Marvel movies.

 

[Adhesive Boy]

Singer started it and did good but I hope he steps aside soon to leave room for someone that cares about more classic characters of the comic. And about continuity.

 

[Duran Man]

That it has taken 16 years for Cyclops, Professor Xavier's protege and leader of the X-Men, to have character development. I'm looking forward to Apocalypse as it should rectify this, but it is disgraceful that it has taken so long for Cyclops to have a character arc.

My minor grievances are Banshee being killed off (missed opportunity not having him as a mentor alongside Beast and Havok), young Beast having no charisma or wit, and Colossus' minor role in the OT films.

 

[LouderNoise]

Check out Corey Taylor from Slipknot talking about Deadpool movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLBATGYxtAE

 

[starscream22]

On paper, X-men should be the best Marvel team series out as far as movies go. But there's no real direction.

At this point Fox and Singer are just trying to keep up with Marvel Studios. Even the Fox-Marvel actors continue to beg to be part of the MCU.

-The costumes suck!
-The Villains are terrible...
-90% of the characters are merely Fox's b@st#rds.
-Scott and Alex are strangers and Cain and Charles are strangers. But Fox believes Raven being Charles little blue pet as a child is the way go.
-The stories are all paint by numbers. ***Spoiler Alert*** Magneto will double cross someone.

I don't like any of it and I'll continue to support the CBM's at other studios whenever Fox releases one.

Make mine Marvel.

 

[KevanG]

About 90% of everything that isn't FC and DoFP with maybe 25% of of those being bad.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

I like First Class, The Wolverine and DoFP but I don't love them. I love the parts that they get right though. The rest I couldn't care less, I don't have any interest in ever watching them again. Apocalypse also looks like ****, they went with an atrocious design.

 

[TeeKay]

At the same time though he is heavily credited with being responsible for the current CBM boom. He brought respectability, belivability and realism to a genre that was frankly considered a joke at the time. I think people tend to forget that. The realistic approaches in movies like Iron Man and Batman Begins would not have been possible without X-Men doing it first. You could even argue that no Singers X-Men, no MCU or DCCU.

No one is arguing otherwise. But the first SM came out and it wadba big success. Post SM, there's no excuse for what Fox continued to do with the X-Men franchise. IMO First class was a steonin the right direction and DoFP was sort if a step back for me. I really doubt Apocalypse is going to be as big and huge scale like Singer is describing considering what he did on DofP. I'm all for telling great stories and what not but I still feel Singer misses the point when it comes to the x-men.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

No one is arguing otherwise. But the first SM came out and it wadba big success. Post SM, there's no excuse for what Fox continued to do with the X-Men franchise. IMO First class was a steonin the right direction and DoFP was sort if a step back for me. I really doubt Apocalypse is going to be as big and huge scale like Singer is describing considering what he did on DofP. I'm all for telling great stories and what not but I still feel Singer misses the point when it comes to the x-men.

Well X2 came out after SM, it was when Singer left things went to ****, X3 was a mess and the most disappointing movie of my life, Origins was poor as well. But you do know Singer was heavily involved in FC right? And for me DOFP is one of the best CBMs ever made. The bad movies in the franchise are the ones he was not involved in at all, so I am glad he is back personally.

 

[Fosterson]

I personally love what Singer did with X-Men, X2 and DoFP. However, I also get the complaints regarding him ignoring/not understanding the comic source material and the obsession with Wolverine. Not to mention the costumes. Ohh, the costumes...

Once Apocalypse comes out, it'd be interesting to see Singer given control of a potential Fantastic Four reboot (if that ever happens) if Fox want to retain the rights. I would hope that he could at least deliver a decent FF movie.

 

[Adhesive Boy]

Fox probably has to wait a while before trying FF again since this huge stink of failure is on the franchise. Hopefully the board doesn't want to risk money on a 3 time failure though.

 

[First Avenger]

I hope they just don't try again with F4. God they killed them.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah, I am perfectly happy with X-Men staying at Fox, but I hope the FF rights revert to ?Marvel now. Didn't even bother seeing the new FFafter the reviews.

 

[First Avenger]

X-Men are totally fine at Fox I agree. Great cast and director. Hope they keep up with the good work.

 

[Mjölnir]

X-Men should stay with Fox in my mind as well. I think that franchise works better on it's own, where the mutant struggle isn't diluted by that there's a ton of other super beings that are just like mutants, only that they have a different source of their powers.

What they've shown from Deadpool also indicates that they might finally spread their wings a bit more, and it looks to be successful. Most interesting trailer from Comic Con imo, and I've never even read any Deadpool focused comics.

 

[Aztec]

It's been 15 years of the Wolverine and Magneto show. I lost interest years ago.

 

[Erzengel]

Discussing the topic about the best action scenes and you can't help but realize that there aren't many team movies and for the one with the most multiple releases, they team battles are few and far between with very few good ones.

The Sentinel battle in DOFP and Battle of Cuba are the only ones that come to mind as good.

One of my earlier critiques is the poor mutant on mutant fights. And the only good action battle scenes are usually Wolverine based.

X-2 has the better action scenes with Nightcrawler's attack on the White House, Wolverine protecting the Mansion and Wolverine vs. Deathstrike.

 

[TeeKay]

Whilst FC and DofP team action scenes were a step in the right direction. They're way still inferior to the Avengers fight scenes. I was literally crying during that slo mo scene where they were all protecting the core.

 

[Knight_SV]

Everyone else pretty much summed up my opinions on the matter. I'll just add Gambit and Storm.

Was there anyone, ever, who wanted a Gambit solo movie? No? I didn't think so. There is literally no reason to make this movie. On the other hand, Fox has one of the most popular female superheroes in Storm, who has a very interesting backstory which they could explore. But no. Despite being one of the most popular X-Men behind Wolverine, she's not going to get a solo movie until at least after we've already had three Wolverines, two Deadpools and one Gambit movie.

To be clear, I'm not complaining about the obvious sexism of having six solo movies about white guys before one Storm movie. I'll even say that Wolverine and Deadpool are even somewhat justified. Wolverine is the most popular X-Man and Deadpool plays better on his own than with a team. But there is no excuse at all for doing Gambit before Storm. No, what I'm complaining about is the fact that Storm is a great character, one that could have her own solo film, and she has been completely underutilized. Even in the movies she did appear in, she was never given any real development or character arcs. She was just a chick who shot lightning.

There is one, and it is lauren shuler donner.
That's why i hope gambit will flop because it doesn't deserve a solo movie. Especially with that (rumored) kind of big budget. And gambit had went from an a-list character into c-list character in comics. It shows he doesn't have the popularity

 

[CB Fan]

Agreed. X-men proved a comic book movie could work, Spider-man proved a comic book movie could be a hit.



For what it's worth, every time Fox has tried to make a Marvel movie without Singer involved it doesn't turn out so well. The Wolverine is the only exception, but that film is crashingly mediocre. I have my quibbles with Singer, but he's really the only person to ever bring credibility to the Fox/Marvel movies.

Well the movies should be good since its his universe and he understands it better than anyone else. My biggest gripes are the lack of fantasy, the horrible/bland characterizations (Storm/Bobby/Rogue), and the lack of truly pleasing action between mutants with powers. I honestly feel that Matthew Vaughn made the best x-men film with FC and I hope he comes back to direct a film with cyke, storm, and jean in it. I hope that Singer really steps it up with Apocalypse in terms of action and characterization cause when you have characters like Jubilee and Nightcrawler you just can't afford bland characterization. And hopefully for all that is good they don't defeat Apocalypse together only to have Magneto be the big bad once again that twist is beyond played out as is the character to be honest. The over reliance on Magneto is on par with the over exposure of Wolverine the x-men have other villains who are just as compelling and yet it's 5 movies of magneto.

 

[Flint Marko]

Whilst FC and DofP team action scenes were a step in the right direction. They're way still inferior to the Avengers fight scenes. I was literally crying during that slo mo scene where they were all protecting the core.

I mean look at that, it's a splash page come to life. The X-men film series has never once gotten in the same league with Marvel's action sequences.

Well the movies should be good since its his universe and he understands it better than anyone else. My biggest gripes are the lack of fantasy, the horrible/bland characterizations (Storm/Bobby/Rogue), and the lack of truly pleasing action between mutants with powers. I honestly feel that Matthew Vaughn made the best x-men film with FC and I hope he comes back to direct a film with cyke, storm, and jean in it. I hope that Singer really steps it up with Apocalypse in terms of action and characterization cause when you have characters like Jubilee and Nightcrawler you just can't afford bland characterization. And hopefully for all that is good they don't defeat Apocalypse together only to have Magneto be the big bad once again that twist is beyond played out as is the character to be honest. The over reliance on Magneto is on par with the over exposure of Wolverine the x-men have other villains who are just as compelling and yet it's 5 movies of magneto.

Agreed. If Apocalypse ends with Magneto going "I'm secretly a bad guy, again!", I will be furious.

 

[Jason Kane]

Agreed. I'm sold he never even read the comics sometimes.

Only the 90s TAS he watched as hus reference guide. He did the same with Superman by just watching the Chris Reeve films.

 

[Flint Marko]

I'm fine with him not reading the comics, at least he honored the spirit of the source material well enough. He never Tranked his movies up.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I am not tired of Magneto as a character (he's actually my favorite X-character), but I agree him being the main villain at the end is played out. Personally, I would like to see some sort of atonement storyline like we glimpsed in the future of DOFP.