shinlyle said:The Jeph Loeb/JSC on Spider-Man almost got my vote, but then I remembered the last time a "New Hope" came along for the Spider-Man titles. Peter David was supposed to be our saving grace in the midst of "The Other" and everything else, and then he goes and brings an alternate reality Uncle Ben back to our time, makes Flash a bully again due to "amnesia", and after that, I just lost interest. I'll buy Loeb/JSC's Spider-Man book and hope it's good, but I don't hold out much hope nowadays. Every story now has to revolve around a "major change" or a "shocking revelation"...kind of takes away that thing we used to love so much....you know, "enjoyable storytelling".
wolvie2020 said:Yea, that's true, but don't forget, PAD is way past his prime. He still does good stories, but he hasn't really done something to stick in the comic book audiences minds like 'The Sin-Eater Saga,' for quite a while... I really don't think you can compare the 2 really.
And to be honest, I never put that much faith in FNSM anyway... Marvel just never seemes clear on their direction with it, even during the early promotion. The book was designed to be made by Waid and Ringo, which at the time was a top of the line team, who worked great together, and really got to the roots of characters personalities, and what made them special. The fact that Waid pulled out really said something to me, it was SO obvious that he didn't dig IN THE SLIGHTEST what Marvel wanted to do with Spidey. Think about it, he was getting a dream job! His OWN high profile Spider-Man title, that would get major marketing, an A-list book, with Marvel's flagship character. Something had to be SERIOUSLY wrong for Mark to pull out of that, and I'm guessing, 'The Other,' and the general direction of Spider-Man was a big part of it.
Marvel are slowly finally learning people DO NOT LIKE what they're doing with Spidey. I'm not thinking that Loeb/JSC will forever change Spidey, but Loeb has a hell of a lot of clout, and only does things as long as it's on his own terms. He likes Spidey stories the way they were in the 70's, and he wants to write that way, that's why SM:Blue was set in that time. So naturally, I have a really good feeling about this team. I mean, SJC's work is SOOOO great, and the Loebs only stuff I didn't like was the last 7 issues of his run on Super-Man/Batman, which is pretty damn impressive. Oh yea, the end if Hush was REALLY lame, but the ride was REALLy fun as well.
Red X said:"SM leaving Avengers" I thought he was staying or at least joining Cap's Avengers.
Do you read X-Factor? I won't compare it to The Sin-Eater Saga, but it is one of the best titles coming out at the moment, IMO.wolvie2020 said:Yea, that's true, but don't forget, PAD is way past his prime. He still does good stories, but he hasn't really done something to stick in the comic book audiences minds like 'The Sin-Eater Saga,' for quite a while... I really don't think you can compare the 2 really.
CConn said:Didn't Waid back out of doing FNSM cause he signed an exclusive deal with DC? I could be wrong...
In any case, I picked Loeb/JSC on a Spider-title in 07. While I actually agree with Shinlyle, it is a bit of a gamble - not just because of Marvel's recent track record, but Loeb himself, as well. That said, out of the options given, it's really the best shot at a really quality Spider-Man title, and stories.
Do you read X-Factor? I won't compare it to The Sin-Eater Saga, but it is one of the best titles coming out at the moment, IMO.
wolvie2020 said:Nope, Joey Q said in an interview in Wizard that Spider-Man will no longer be an Avenger, and Peter will be working at the bugle, more like how Stan envisioned him i the late 60's, early 70's. I'm think around the death of Gwen, just before or after.
And think about it, Peter has just pissed of about every super-hero in the MU. No one will trust him on either side now, he's betrayed both sides in a sense, and we keep getting told life will be hard for lonely ol' Pete
Ouch! Ouch! That's harsh. What about "Fallen Angel"? I keep hearing raves about that?wolvie2020 said:Yea, that's true, but don't forget, PAD is way past his prime. He still does good stories, but he hasn't really done something to stick in the comic book audiences minds like 'The Sin-Eater Saga,' for quite a while... I really don't think you can compare the 2 really.
Waid's disappearance seemed... odd, that's for sure.wolvie2020 said:Ouch! Ouch! That's harsh. WhaAnd to be honest, I never put that much faith in FNSM anyway... Marvel just never seemes clear on their direction with it, even during the early promotion. The book was designed to be made by Waid and Ringo, which at the time was a top of the line team, who worked great together, and really got to the roots of characters personalities, and what made them special. The fact that Waid pulled out really said something to me, it was SO obvious that he didn't dig IN THE SLIGHTEST what Marvel wanted to do with Spidey. Think about it, he was getting a dream job! His OWN high profile Spider-Man title, that would get major marketing, an A-list book, with Marvel's flagship character. Something had to be SERIOUSLY wrong for Mark to pull out of that, and I'm guessing, 'The Other,' and the general direction of Spider-Man was a big part of it.
One can only hope this is true.wolvie2020 said:Marvel are slowly finally learning people DO NOT LIKE what they're doing with Spidey. I'm not thinking that Loeb/JSC will forever change Spidey, but Loeb has a hell of a lot of clout, and only does things as long as it's on his own terms. He likes Spidey stories the way they were in the 70's, and he wants to write that way, that's why SM:Blue was set in that time. So naturally, I have a really good feeling about this team. I mean, SJC's work is SOOOO great, and the Loebs only stuff I didn't like was the last 7 issues of his run on Super-Man/Batman, which is pretty damn impressive. Oh yea, the end if Hush was REALLY lame, but the ride was REALLy fun as well.
sounds good to this freindly neighborhood spder-fanwolvie2020 said:Nope, Joey Q said in an interview in Wizard that Spider-Man will no longer be an Avenger, and Peter will be working at the bugle, more like how Stan envisioned him i the late 60's, early 70's. I'm think around the death of Gwen, just before or after.
And think about it, Peter has just pissed of about every super-hero in the MU. No one will trust him on either side now, he's betrayed both sides in a sense, and we keep getting told life will be hard for lonely ol' Pete
wolvie2020 said:Nope, Joey Q said in an interview in Wizard that Spider-Man will no longer be an Avenger, and Peter will be working at the bugle, more like how Stan envisioned him i the late 60's, early 70's. I'm think around the death of Gwen, just before or after.
And think about it, Peter has just pissed of about every super-hero in the MU. No one will trust him on either side now, he's betrayed both sides in a sense, and we keep getting told life will be hard for lonely ol' Pete
SpideyInATree said:Definitely looking forward to Jeph Loeb writing a Spider-Man book again. I've heard that his book is going to be out of continuity but that's all good with me, it's Jeph Loeb writing Spider-Man again...conitnuity or not it's still going to be awesome to see where he goes with it.
Boo ya!
wolvie2020 said:Nope, Joey Q said in an interview in Wizard that Spider-Man will no longer be an Avenger, and Peter will be working at the bugle, more like how Stan envisioned him i the late 60's, early 70's. I'm think around the death of Gwen, just before or after.
And think about it, Peter has just pissed of about every super-hero in the MU. No one will trust him on either side now, he's betrayed both sides in a sense, and we keep getting told life will be hard for lonely ol' Pete
stillanerd said:As for working at the Bugle again? How is that going to happen? Jonah already knows Peter is Spider-Man, and has fired and sued him because of it? Plus, as long as he's unmasked, there's no reason for Peter to take pictures of himself as Spider-Man to sell to the bugle.
Dragon said:As mentioned above, the Loeb/Campbell series is "out of continuity", so the unmasking must not apply [Dragon wipes a tear of joy from his eye].