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So what are you most looking forward to?
 
Loeb and JSC on their Spidey project. I like about everything I've read that that guy's written.
 
I'll have to go with the loss of the Iron Spidey duds, simply because it is the only thing on the list that I know can only be a positive thing. CW ending will probably result in a massive ret-con (which, as much as it would fix things, is a total cop-out), or the death of MJ/end of the marriage. Spider-Man: Reign looks cool, but it may just flat-out suck, and Spidey leaving the Avengers is obvious after his flip-flopping during Civil War.

The Jeph Loeb/JSC on Spider-Man almost got my vote, but then I remembered the last time a "New Hope" came along for the Spider-Man titles. Peter David was supposed to be our saving grace in the midst of "The Other" and everything else, and then he goes and brings an alternate reality Uncle Ben back to our time, makes Flash a bully again due to "amnesia", and after that, I just lost interest. I'll buy Loeb/JSC's Spider-Man book and hope it's good, but I don't hold out much hope nowadays. Every story now has to revolve around a "major change" or a "shocking revelation"...kind of takes away that thing we used to love so much....you know, "enjoyable storytelling".
 
shinlyle said:
The Jeph Loeb/JSC on Spider-Man almost got my vote, but then I remembered the last time a "New Hope" came along for the Spider-Man titles. Peter David was supposed to be our saving grace in the midst of "The Other" and everything else, and then he goes and brings an alternate reality Uncle Ben back to our time, makes Flash a bully again due to "amnesia", and after that, I just lost interest. I'll buy Loeb/JSC's Spider-Man book and hope it's good, but I don't hold out much hope nowadays. Every story now has to revolve around a "major change" or a "shocking revelation"...kind of takes away that thing we used to love so much....you know, "enjoyable storytelling".


Yea, that's true, but don't forget, PAD is way past his prime. He still does good stories, but he hasn't really done something to stick in the comic book audiences minds like 'The Sin-Eater Saga,' for quite a while... I really don't think you can compare the 2 really.

And to be honest, I never put that much faith in FNSM anyway... Marvel just never seemes clear on their direction with it, even during the early promotion. The book was designed to be made by Waid and Ringo, which at the time was a top of the line team, who worked great together, and really got to the roots of characters personalities, and what made them special. The fact that Waid pulled out really said something to me, it was SO obvious that he didn't dig IN THE SLIGHTEST what Marvel wanted to do with Spidey. Think about it, he was getting a dream job! His OWN high profile Spider-Man title, that would get major marketing, an A-list book, with Marvel's flagship character. Something had to be SERIOUSLY wrong for Mark to pull out of that, and I'm guessing, 'The Other,' and the general direction of Spider-Man was a big part of it.

Marvel are slowly finally learning people DO NOT LIKE what they're doing with Spidey. I'm not thinking that Loeb/JSC will forever change Spidey, but Loeb has a hell of a lot of clout, and only does things as long as it's on his own terms. He likes Spidey stories the way they were in the 70's, and he wants to write that way, that's why SM:Blue was set in that time. So naturally, I have a really good feeling about this team. I mean, SJC's work is SOOOO great, and the Loebs only stuff I didn't like was the last 7 issues of his run on Super-Man/Batman, which is pretty damn impressive. Oh yea, the end if Hush was REALLY lame, but the ride was REALLy fun as well.
 
wolvie2020 said:
Yea, that's true, but don't forget, PAD is way past his prime. He still does good stories, but he hasn't really done something to stick in the comic book audiences minds like 'The Sin-Eater Saga,' for quite a while... I really don't think you can compare the 2 really.

And to be honest, I never put that much faith in FNSM anyway... Marvel just never seemes clear on their direction with it, even during the early promotion. The book was designed to be made by Waid and Ringo, which at the time was a top of the line team, who worked great together, and really got to the roots of characters personalities, and what made them special. The fact that Waid pulled out really said something to me, it was SO obvious that he didn't dig IN THE SLIGHTEST what Marvel wanted to do with Spidey. Think about it, he was getting a dream job! His OWN high profile Spider-Man title, that would get major marketing, an A-list book, with Marvel's flagship character. Something had to be SERIOUSLY wrong for Mark to pull out of that, and I'm guessing, 'The Other,' and the general direction of Spider-Man was a big part of it.

Marvel are slowly finally learning people DO NOT LIKE what they're doing with Spidey. I'm not thinking that Loeb/JSC will forever change Spidey, but Loeb has a hell of a lot of clout, and only does things as long as it's on his own terms. He likes Spidey stories the way they were in the 70's, and he wants to write that way, that's why SM:Blue was set in that time. So naturally, I have a really good feeling about this team. I mean, SJC's work is SOOOO great, and the Loebs only stuff I didn't like was the last 7 issues of his run on Super-Man/Batman, which is pretty damn impressive. Oh yea, the end if Hush was REALLY lame, but the ride was REALLy fun as well.

I know. I'm trying not to belittle how much I'm looking forward to Loeb/JSC's run on Spidey, but I just hope that they can bring back quality stories that are CHARACTER-BASED, not EVENT-BASED.

Also, good call on Waid/Ringo. I was so upset when I heard that Waid wouldn't be writing it. Those two guys did wonders with Fantastic Four (despite Marvel trying to kick Waid off halfway through his second or third arc), and they really had the best run seen since Byrne was in his prime so long ago. I always wondered why he pulled out so quickly, and then the Other hit and I figured that was what set him off as well.

Hopefully, Marvel will rectify everything and undo this mess they've made.

Also, it's hard not to get psyched about what Loeb and Campbell could do with Spidey if they could keep the higher-ups and crossovers out of their way!
 
I'm going to say the Loeb/JSC run on one of the titles next year, because I'm hoping they are going to return SM to greatness.
Working in the bugle as PP/ working Solo as SM/Supporting cast involved/ classic foes etc.

I’m also quite looking forward to Reign now as well.
 
"SM leaving Avengers" I thought he was staying or at least joining Cap's Avengers.
 
Red X said:
"SM leaving Avengers" I thought he was staying or at least joining Cap's Avengers.

Nope, Joey Q said in an interview in Wizard that Spider-Man will no longer be an Avenger, and Peter will be working at the bugle, more like how Stan envisioned him i the late 60's, early 70's. I'm think around the death of Gwen, just before or after.

And think about it, Peter has just pissed of about every super-hero in the MU. No one will trust him on either side now, he's betrayed both sides in a sense, and we keep getting told life will be hard for lonely ol' Pete
 
Didn't Waid back out of doing FNSM cause he signed an exclusive deal with DC? :confused: I could be wrong...

In any case, I picked Loeb/JSC on a Spider-title in 07. While I actually agree with Shinlyle, it is a bit of a gamble - not just because of Marvel's recent track record, but Loeb himself, as well. That said, out of the options given, it's really the best shot at a really quality Spider-Man title, and stories.
wolvie2020 said:
Yea, that's true, but don't forget, PAD is way past his prime. He still does good stories, but he hasn't really done something to stick in the comic book audiences minds like 'The Sin-Eater Saga,' for quite a while... I really don't think you can compare the 2 really.
Do you read X-Factor? I won't compare it to The Sin-Eater Saga, but it is one of the best titles coming out at the moment, IMO.
 
CConn said:
Didn't Waid back out of doing FNSM cause he signed an exclusive deal with DC? :confused: I could be wrong...

In any case, I picked Loeb/JSC on a Spider-title in 07. While I actually agree with Shinlyle, it is a bit of a gamble - not just because of Marvel's recent track record, but Loeb himself, as well. That said, out of the options given, it's really the best shot at a really quality Spider-Man title, and stories.
Do you read X-Factor? I won't compare it to The Sin-Eater Saga, but it is one of the best titles coming out at the moment, IMO.

Yea, well having what he had at Marvel, he still decided to throw his life upside and abandon ship to a completley different company. They pissed him off one too many times, and he pretty much gave 'em an f u attitude
 
wolvie2020 said:
Nope, Joey Q said in an interview in Wizard that Spider-Man will no longer be an Avenger, and Peter will be working at the bugle, more like how Stan envisioned him i the late 60's, early 70's. I'm think around the death of Gwen, just before or after.

And think about it, Peter has just pissed of about every super-hero in the MU. No one will trust him on either side now, he's betrayed both sides in a sense, and we keep getting told life will be hard for lonely ol' Pete

I see, well is there anyword is Pete keeps his teacher job? Because thats the one development I've liked.
 
wolvie2020 said:
Yea, that's true, but don't forget, PAD is way past his prime. He still does good stories, but he hasn't really done something to stick in the comic book audiences minds like 'The Sin-Eater Saga,' for quite a while... I really don't think you can compare the 2 really.
Ouch! Ouch! That's harsh. What about "Fallen Angel"? I keep hearing raves about that?

wolvie2020 said:
Ouch! Ouch! That's harsh. WhaAnd to be honest, I never put that much faith in FNSM anyway... Marvel just never seemes clear on their direction with it, even during the early promotion. The book was designed to be made by Waid and Ringo, which at the time was a top of the line team, who worked great together, and really got to the roots of characters personalities, and what made them special. The fact that Waid pulled out really said something to me, it was SO obvious that he didn't dig IN THE SLIGHTEST what Marvel wanted to do with Spidey. Think about it, he was getting a dream job! His OWN high profile Spider-Man title, that would get major marketing, an A-list book, with Marvel's flagship character. Something had to be SERIOUSLY wrong for Mark to pull out of that, and I'm guessing, 'The Other,' and the general direction of Spider-Man was a big part of it.
Waid's disappearance seemed... odd, that's for sure.
wolvie2020 said:
Marvel are slowly finally learning people DO NOT LIKE what they're doing with Spidey. I'm not thinking that Loeb/JSC will forever change Spidey, but Loeb has a hell of a lot of clout, and only does things as long as it's on his own terms. He likes Spidey stories the way they were in the 70's, and he wants to write that way, that's why SM:Blue was set in that time. So naturally, I have a really good feeling about this team. I mean, SJC's work is SOOOO great, and the Loebs only stuff I didn't like was the last 7 issues of his run on Super-Man/Batman, which is pretty damn impressive. Oh yea, the end if Hush was REALLY lame, but the ride was REALLy fun as well.
One can only hope this is true.
 
wolvie2020 said:
Nope, Joey Q said in an interview in Wizard that Spider-Man will no longer be an Avenger, and Peter will be working at the bugle, more like how Stan envisioned him i the late 60's, early 70's. I'm think around the death of Gwen, just before or after.

And think about it, Peter has just pissed of about every super-hero in the MU. No one will trust him on either side now, he's betrayed both sides in a sense, and we keep getting told life will be hard for lonely ol' Pete
sounds good to this freindly neighborhood spder-fan:spidey:
 
wolvie2020 said:
Nope, Joey Q said in an interview in Wizard that Spider-Man will no longer be an Avenger, and Peter will be working at the bugle, more like how Stan envisioned him i the late 60's, early 70's. I'm think around the death of Gwen, just before or after.

And think about it, Peter has just pissed of about every super-hero in the MU. No one will trust him on either side now, he's betrayed both sides in a sense, and we keep getting told life will be hard for lonely ol' Pete

Wow! A Spidey that doesn't rely on every other hero in the MU for help?! That's...almost exactly like he was back in the olden days!!

BRING IT ON!!!
 
Definitely looking forward to Jeph Loeb writing a Spider-Man book again. I've heard that his book is going to be out of continuity but that's all good with me, it's Jeph Loeb writing Spider-Man again...conitnuity or not it's still going to be awesome to see where he goes with it.

Boo ya! :wow:
 
I will be glad when Civil War ends, because to me, it represented the final straw on the camels back, for a series of poorly made decisions about the Spider-Man character and franchise, over the past few years. I am hoping that when February rolls around, that Spidey will be all sorted out. I really don't see how they plan to resolve the unmasking business. That leaves him too much of an outcast. How will he find employment? People will either hate him, or fear that his presence will bring harm upon them. I know Spidey is always the angsty loner, but that seems like too much of a far stretch. I just hope that some ablely equipped retcon has been repaired, that will neither totally negate all circumstances, or totally ignore all circumstances. I would be more excited for Jeph Loeb's run, but until I find out if his work is canon or not, I am more skeptical. I do like a fun story..and Jeph Loeb is more than capable. Heck...the guy took a Rob Liefeld character (Kaboom) and turned that into an amazingly fun book to read. So I do not doubt Loeb's ability. But I do think his talent would be wasted on a non canon book, because Spider-Man is in serious need of absolute resolve, to get him back on track.
 
SpideyInATree said:
Definitely looking forward to Jeph Loeb writing a Spider-Man book again. I've heard that his book is going to be out of continuity but that's all good with me, it's Jeph Loeb writing Spider-Man again...conitnuity or not it's still going to be awesome to see where he goes with it.

Boo ya! :wow:

If the book is good, then for me it will be continuity. Everything else will be out of continuity as far as I'm concerned.
 
wolvie2020 said:
Nope, Joey Q said in an interview in Wizard that Spider-Man will no longer be an Avenger, and Peter will be working at the bugle, more like how Stan envisioned him i the late 60's, early 70's. I'm think around the death of Gwen, just before or after.

And think about it, Peter has just pissed of about every super-hero in the MU. No one will trust him on either side now, he's betrayed both sides in a sense, and we keep getting told life will be hard for lonely ol' Pete

Well, if that's the official word about Spidey no longer being an Avenger and going solo again, it's about time. But it's not that surprising given the events of Civil War and what appears to be Joe Q's goal of having all the heroes distrust each other again. Also PAD (by the way wolvie, I didn't know that Mark Waid was going to be the original writer for Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, and yes that does say a lot if he declined to work on what most comic book writers would consider a dream job) did mention in a Newsarama interview that he felt Spider-Man worked better if he was interacting with regular people more like his supporting cast than hanging around the Avengers all the time. And even JMS and Joe Q, when talking about their upcoming mini, lamented that Spidey barely has a supporting cast anymore (never mind that JMS had a good four years to use them).

As for working at the Bugle again? How is that going to happen? Jonah already knows Peter is Spider-Man, and has fired and sued him because of it? Plus, as long as he's unmasked, there's no reason for Peter to take pictures of himself as Spider-Man to sell to the bugle. Unless of course:

A. Joe Robertson convinces Jonah that, since Spider-Man was a money maker for them, why not have Betty Brant do a series of articles in conjunction with the local TV news (which, after all Jameson's been involved with) following Spidey's exploits and daily life, sort of an EdTV situation (course, ironically, that sounds an awful lot like what the New Warriors became and look where THAT led), or

B. This is another indication that a possible mind-wipe is in Spidey's future, since if no one remembers Peter is Spider-Man, then Peter can now work at the Daily Bugle again.
 
stillanerd said:
As for working at the Bugle again? How is that going to happen? Jonah already knows Peter is Spider-Man, and has fired and sued him because of it? Plus, as long as he's unmasked, there's no reason for Peter to take pictures of himself as Spider-Man to sell to the bugle.

As mentioned above, the Loeb/Campbell series is "out of continuity", so the unmasking must not apply [Dragon wipes a tear of joy from his eye].
 
Where is everyone getting this "out of continuity" info?
 
Dragon said:
As mentioned above, the Loeb/Campbell series is "out of continuity", so the unmasking must not apply [Dragon wipes a tear of joy from his eye].

I assumed when Wolvie2020 was quoting Joe Q's interview in Wizard he was talking out plans for Spider-Man in the regular continuity, not the Loeb/Campbell series, which I already knew was going to be an "out-of-continuity" book or a "untold story." The way he mentioned it, it sounded like he wasn't talking about that series at all and actually regular Spider-Man continuity. Either way, the Jeph Loeb series does sound pretty good. Then again, what could be a "Long Halloween" could end up being another "Hush."
 

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