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[Brainiac 8]

I love Loeb, so him on a title is pure awsomeness.t:

Those who disagree have silly opinions.

 

[Dragon]

I assumed when Wolvie2020 was quoting Joe Q's interview in Wizard he was talking out plans for Spider-Man in the regular continuity, not the Loeb/Campbell series, which I already knew was going to be an "out-of-continuity" book or a "untold story." The way he mentioned it, it sounded like he wasn't talking about that series at all and actually regular Spider-Man continuity. Either way, the Jeph Loeb series does sound pretty good. Then again, what could be a "Long Halloween" could end up being another "Hush."

You might be right and I'm just mixing things up. I'm just so giddy over the Loeb series not being a part of "continuity" (Like such a thing exists at Marvel anyway )

 

[Gamma Burst]

It's gotta be the Loeb/JSC project

 

[DarkArachknight]

i'm really interested to see how Civil War turns out and it's impact on the marvel universe.

 

[freemadison]

Civil War Ending!!! WOoOOOO!

ummm, so is the Loeb title gonna be "in-continuity" or not?

 

[Kraven]

As far as I know, it hasn't officially been stated either way. Then again, I've been wrong before.

 

[SpideyInATree]

Civil War Ending!!! WOoOOOO!

ummm, so is the Loeb title gonna be "in-continuity" or not?

The last official word that I recall from the Loeb/Campbell run is from Wizard a while back when they stated that the team would be doing an ongoing Spider-Man series in 2007. When I first read it I was under the impression that they were going to be taking over Amazing Spider-Man, because I could see that team on the book. But I've been seeing fans lately saying that the book is supposedly out of continuity.

 

[Dragon]

I'm seeing that Wizard #176 from back in the spring devoted several pages to the Loeb/Campbell project and included design sketches of various characters. Has anyone seen it?

 

[SpideyInATree]

Yeah, I remember that article, that's the same one that I'm recalling where they say it's supposed to be an ongoing. Those sketches were really good too, MJ and Gwen had sketches and Loeb talked a lot about spending time in Spidey's past.

 

[Themanofbat]

If it's "out of continuity", then I'll pass....

I don't need another "Ultimate Spider-Man"...

 

[Hobgoblin]

Loeb/Campbell

Couldnt careless about the other stuff.

 

[Cullen]

If it's "out of continuity", then I'll pass....

I don't need another "Ultimate Spider-Man"...

Me, I don't care so long as it's good.

 

[freemadison]

If it's "out of continuity", then I'll pass....

I don't need another "Ultimate Spider-Man"...

Ditto.

 

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Spidey leaving the Avengers is obvious after his flip-flopping during Civil War.

Not necessarily, I suppose...after CW there are going to be two Avengers titles, remember? The Mighty Avengers is led by Iron Man (which may or may not be Tony Stark) and I'd bet that the New Avengers will be led by Captain America. I can see him sticking around the New Avengers with Cap...

...unless you get into a situation that some have suggested, and NOBODY trusts Peter because of his flip-flopping (which I don't see in the case of Cap, honestly).

 

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Nope, Joey Q said in an interview in Wizard that Spider-Man will no longer be an Avenger, and Peter will be working at the bugle, more like how Stan envisioned him i the late 60's, early 70's. I'm think around the death of Gwen, just before or after.

And think about it, Peter has just pissed of about every super-hero in the MU. No one will trust him on either side now, he's betrayed both sides in a sense, and we keep getting told life will be hard for lonely ol' Pete

Oooh, I hadn't seen that.

I guess ignore my above post, then...

 

[Dragon]

If it's "out of continuity", then I'll pass....

I don't need another "Ultimate Spider-Man"...

Is current continuity really something you feel needs to be adhered to?

 

[TarachnidX]

The return of the black spidey suit!!

 

[freemadison]

Is current continuity really something you feel needs to be adhered to?

Yes. I like an ongoing story, not a brand.

 

[wolvie2020]

I'm seeing that Wizard #176 from back in the spring devoted several pages to the Loeb/Campbell project and included design sketches of various characters. Has anyone seen it?

That's the one I'm talking about... Why doesn't anyone know what I'm talking about

If people want to know that badly, I could go and dig up the bloody mag, it'd take me quite a while though!

I really don't understand where this confusion is coming from... If someone has an article or something that tells me otherwise, show me, but it was in the Wizard article, and on the net, that they're on a Spider-Man title that's in regular continuity.

And to make that COMPLETELY OBVIOUS, there's one part of the article where there's a sketch of Gwen, so Wizard ask if it's set in the past, or different continuity. Loeb replies no, it's set in the surrent MU. Cambell goes on to say that these are 1st test sketches, and drawing Gwen is a bit of wish fulfillment, and they go on to say that there's no reason NOT to have her in a flashback...

Besides, there's already an Ultimate U for this kind of stuff, and to do something like this would be a marketing nightmare, DC already have their All Star series, and Marvel know that fan boys would very much disrespect a straight rip like that. Also Loeb would in no way go for a job that would ruin his cred like that... Not man enough to take a job in regular continuity??? And it's proven many times, that doesn't work for Marvel characters much, unless it's the Ultimate U, which some people still refuse to read.

I really don't understand the confusion... Does anyone want me to dig up the mag that bad? It'd take me a couple of days, but I could post the quotes up word for word..... It'd need quite a few people for me to waste my like like that.

Saying that, I'm a fan boy, and would do it if people really wanted it enough, lol

 

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Not man enough to take a job in regular continuity???

Psh. Tell that to Grant Morrison.

All-Star Superman pwnz j00.

 

[matt50]

i'm most looking forward to the ending of Civil War and seeing where it leaves the characters.

 

[Dragon]

Yes. I like an ongoing story, not a brand.

But that's not what you're getting with Marvel's current continuity, what with all the retconning and straight up ignoring of even recent history.

 

[Dragon]

That's the one I'm talking about... Why doesn't anyone know what I'm talking about

If people want to know that badly, I could go and dig up the bloody mag, it'd take me quite a while though!

I really don't understand where this confusion is coming from... If someone has an article or something that tells me otherwise, show me, but it was in the Wizard article, and on the net, that they're on a Spider-Man title that's in regular continuity.

And to make that COMPLETELY OBVIOUS, there's one part of the article where there's a sketch of Gwen, so Wizard ask if it's set in the past, or different continuity. Loeb replies no, it's set in the surrent MU. Cambell goes on to say that these are 1st test sketches, and drawing Gwen is a bit of wish fulfillment, and they go on to say that there's no reason NOT to have her in a flashback...

Besides, there's already an Ultimate U for this kind of stuff, and to do something like this would be a marketing nightmare, DC already have their All Star series, and Marvel know that fan boys would very much disrespect a straight rip like that. Also Loeb would in no way go for a job that would ruin his cred like that... Not man enough to take a job in regular continuity??? And it's proven many times, that doesn't work for Marvel characters much, unless it's the Ultimate U, which some people still refuse to read.

I really don't understand the confusion... Does anyone want me to dig up the mag that bad? It'd take me a couple of days, but I could post the quotes up word for word..... It'd need quite a few people for me to waste my like like that.

Saying that, I'm a fan boy, and would do it if people really wanted it enough, lol

Yes. Please. Dig it up, scan it, whatever you need to do (Without driving yourself nuts)

I've only managed to find online some sketches of Spidey's mask and a very freckly and large breasted MJ.

 

[wolvie2020]

Ok, here goes, luckily the the issue of Wizard wasn't too hard for me to find, and I got some waiting around time at work, so here goes... (OK, this post is REALLY long, but please, bear with me. This issue of Wizard focused a lot on what's going to happen to Spider-Man on '07. So this thread WANTS this article, lol) Excerpts from the Loeb/SJC Interview:

Wizard: (Flipping throughsketch book) Wow, the next couple of sketches are Gwen Stacy and MJ together, what's up with that?

Campbell: (Laughs)
Loeb: Well, those are kinda fantasy drawings, "If there was a way," blah, blah, blah. But I have thought a lot about how "Lost" incorprates the past and the present together. And there's something really interesting about Peter's life and whether or not he's going to keep making the same mistakes, and where that comes from. Sp that gives me an opportunity to both reference stuff from when Gwen was alive, and also in the present talking about whatever's going on in his relationships. So there is something very cool about it and I'm trying to figure out if that's the structure I want to use in the story.

It's a cool article, and Loeb says that it'll be in a similar format to his Batman 'Hush.' They both also likened their run, and the timing of the release dates will be more like 'Hush,' and Whedon/Cassady's (imo absolutely freakin' awesome,) Astonishing X-Men. ALSO, Peter will DEFINATLEY be working at the Bugle, for JJ. Although, here's one interesting tidbit; Campbell doesn't seem too bothered, but Loeb clearly wants to Spidey in his classic togs, (you'd think it'd be the other way round....):

Wizard: Will he be in the red and the blue suit in this series?
Campbell: I would assume so, but I don't know if that's a secret or not.
Loeb: He will be in the red and blue suit, yes. That doesn't mean he's not running around in armour in somebosy else's book. However this is going to work, it's going to work the way it's going to work.

Okay, That's quite interesting quite interesting... It'll either mean that that like in the 80's, the main Spidey book will have him in his black suit, and other's will have the red and blue if they like. Which would mean that they wouldn't be on ASM

OR, it could mean that their story will start much later in the year, when Spidey gives up the black suit...

Although, this statement could end up meaning nothing, as this interview was from a while ago, and the Marvel editorial change some of their biggest decisions from a month to month basis regarding the 616 U. E.g. Civil War... Not sure about that theory though... I think the 1st would be the simplest solution for the entire thing.

Okay, I thought it's worth mentioning here too, JMS/JQ had very small Spidey discussion at buried in the mag. They admit, (although, it not a very humble manner,) their failings of Spidey over the last couple years. Mainly 'Sins Past,' and 'The Other.'

Annoyingly, JQ ONCE AGAIN goes on about how the marriage is the single most worst thing in the Spidey mytho's, and blames that for their biggest problem in writing Spider-Man. Okkkkkkaaaaaayyyyyyy.... so retconning one of the single most important comic stories of all time, (ASM 121-122,) and making Spidey lose an eye, grow in a cocoon, (AGAIN!) and bite someone's head off has ANYTHING to do with his marriage?????? Go figure. He also goes on about how Spidey was at his best when he was a single teen, and that appeals too all 9 year olds and loads of youngsters don't have an entrance in to Spider-Man anymore. HELLO!!!!! Can anyone say Ultimate Spider-Man??? Marvel best selling mag for teens and pre teens!!? (And a few of us older types too?) And to a lesser extent, Marvel Age SM?

They then go onto say that he doesn't have a supporting cast anymore, and they want one back. Once again, HELLOOOOOoooo???? Whose fault is that? They talk about the lack of supporting cast is because they're all dead or comatose!! (The interview was pre-d**k Flash) Jenkins tried his best to make good use of his supporting cast, Robbie, his girl, that Aussie guys, and several other new neighbours. As well as J.J, and the Bugle lot, but JQ was more interested in Totems. Jenkins also was one of the main inspirations as making MJ a more relatable down to earth actress, shouldn't she have friends? (JQ complained about her being a super model, again!) COME ON! CREATE! Make a more human supporting cast revolving around the classic! Even I could do that!

Okay, getting to the most important part... The next year for Spider-Man. They say thet he's not going to be an Avenger, and his life will suck more than ever, as he's made the biggest mistake of his life, guess what that is? (unmasking, lol.) n.b. Interestingly, in another article, next to a pic of Spidey is a line going to Matt Murdock, Tom Breevort says that during Civil War, Matt Murdock is the earliest example of what happens to a hero when they unmask, hhhmmmm.

Okay, the last bit, says that it'll all lead to a JMS/JQ 6 part story that will take Peter back to, in JMS' words; 'The status Quo that worked well for Spider-Man for so many years. It's dangerous as hell.' They said the entire Spidey team have worked very hard in putting the story together, NOT just JMS and JQ, but they're the ones doing the story. They've planned everything for the next year and more. JMS says, 'It'll tear your heart out, on the 6th issue you'll be on the floor.'

I really don't know what to make of this... Many will jump to the MJ, thing, but I really don't think that'll happen, as JQ has made quite a few jokes about it, and said he'll never divorce Peter, or kill MJ, as it will age him far too much. Between this and what Loeb/SJC have planned for him... I really have no idea how they will get from A to B though...

The whole thing finishes with Wizard asking

Wizard: How do you hope Spider-Man will look a year from now?

Quesada: I hope he looks closer to the incarnation that Stan Lee created back in the day
JMS: I agree
Quesada: Closer to that than anything else

Have they FINALLY learned their lesson? Only time will tell...

before I finish this ridiculously long post, I have to say, the JQ/JMS thing was originally slated to have started by now, and there's been NOTHING mentioned about it since that article. Whether they've dramatically changes the story, or if it's happening, I don't know. Like I said earlier in the article, Marvel nowadays makes fast dramatic decisions. It could end up like JQ last (supposedly,) massive book, DD:Father. That ended being SOOO late, few people even regard it on canon... will that happen to this book? I dunno, but just the thought of JMS/JQ on a Spidey book together has me quivering in my boots. They just can't seem to handle the fact that they keep getting it wrong, and want to be the ones to turn it back around... They want the glory for something they keep failing at. Oh well, I hope for the sakes of all Spidey fans that they FINALLY get it right, at least the WHOLE team of people working on all Spidey titles are making the decision together, not just those 2

I think I just broke my wrist typing.

 

[wolvie2020]

Yes. Please. Dig it up, scan it, whatever you need to do (Without driving yourself nuts)

I've only managed to find online some sketches of Spidey's mask and a very freckly and large breasted MJ.

I don't have the chance to scan it at the moment... But the sketches are REALLY cool, so I think I will soon. If I forget, remind me and I do want to 'cause looking at the sketches, I think I mos def have to use it for work