What is DC Entertainment doing? What is their plan?

[REDophile]

HP trounces DC Comics in its fan base size, no denying that. Its just that next year Marvel has the Avengers from their own studio, a new Spidey franchise and loads more ahead. Marvel more often than not has proved the superhero movie is profitable and works when done right. Warners just so happens to own rights to every single DC character. For every flop like GL there could be an epic Flash or WW film. Its not so much about replacing HP, but more about taking that queue from Marvel. Whether Marvel is its own independent studio or not, its the concept of churning out more films from the depths of their roster.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Comic books just don't have the reader base that Harry Potter does. Look at the monthly sales and the industry is slowly declining. Maybe in the 90s when they were selling a million copies if they had the movies coming out they could have really made a lot. There just aren't enough fans like some of these book series have such as twilight and potter. Look at the twilight movies, the sheer amount of fan base has willed those movies to make a fortune.

I think what hurts comic book films in a way is that they have no ending and if you read the message boards its a laundry list of things you can't do with the character. Thats why its hard creating a film thats suprising, something I think the dark knight managed to pull off for once. That's why its exciting to see Nolan end it.

Do we really need to see a rebooted batman after this series? Probably not, there is only so much you can do with the character. They really need to give it a rest for a good 10 to 20 years.

Comic books are suffering from the same ailment as newspapers: The decline, and eventual demise, of print periodicals. With things like the internet, TV, video games, and films, people have more options than they used to for entertainment. It's a lot more convenient to use one's computer to purchase access content via the internet than it is to go to a bookstore or a comic book shop to buy it on a printed page. This, combined with the resurgence in popularity of superheroes in movies, video games, TV, et cetera, I think will cause the genre to move on to those alternate mediums, leaving comic books behind in order to survive.

Harry Potter, on the other hand, is a series of novels, which remain relatively unaffected by the demise of print periodical. They have a lot more fans as a result.

The last thing I wanna see is Batman trotted out and rebooted constantly, just because of greedy fanboys and executives. I too would prefer not to see a Batfilm franchise for a long time.

Why? After The Dark Knight Returns, Batman: Year One or Batman: The Killing Joke did anyone say, "I would rather not see is Batman trotted out, and published month after month, just because of greedy fanboys and executives."? No. Comic book films will only be popular for so long, so to even think you can depend on waiting 10 to 20 years to make more Batman films is asinine. Batman already had to sit out the first half of the 2000s because he was stuck in development hell. I don't know about you, but I am not Ra's al Ghul, I am not immortal. I only have so many years on this Earth, why should I have to wait to see a new Batman film because of a self-imposed moratorium "out of respect for the Christopher Nolan films". As awesome as they have been, Batman has been around for more than half a century before I was born, and he will be around in some form after I am dead. I think Warner Brothers should go ahead with more Batman films once they have a great idea.

 

[The Batman]

Why? After The Dark Knight Returns, Batman: Year One or Batman: The Killing Joke did anyone say, "I would rather not see is Batman trotted out, and published month after month, just because of greedy fanboys and executives."? No. Comic book films will only be popular for so long, so to even think you can depend on waiting 10 to 20 years to make more Batman films is asinine. Batman already had to sit out the first half of the 2000s because he was stuck in development hell. I don't know about you, but I am not Ra's al Ghul, I am not immortal. I only have so many years on this Earth, why should I have to wait to see a new Batman film because of a self-imposed moratorium "out of respect for the Christopher Nolan films". As awesome as they have been, Batman has been around for more than half a century before I was born, and he will be around in some form after I am dead. I think Warner Brothers should go ahead with more Batman films once they have a great idea.

These arent the comics. Constantly churning out Batman films will only make Batman films lose their luster, imo. This isnt about respect to chris nolan alone. This is about making sure the Batfranchise dosent go through another backlash. Batman shouldnt be ****ed out like a horror film franchise that just gets tired after so many movies being put out consecutively.

Maybe we shouldnt have to wait 20 years, but i sure as hell dont want to see another bat film for at least 5

 

[Godzilla2014]

These arent the comics. Constantly churning out Batman films will only make Batman films lose their luster, imo. This isnt about respect to chris nolan alone. This is about making sure the Batfranchise dosent go through another backlash. Batman shouldnt be ****ed out like a horror film franchise that just gets tired after so many movies being put out consecutively.

Maybe we shouldnt have to wait 20 years, but i sure as hell dont want to see another bat film for at least 5

I understand that these aren't the comics, but I really don't see how it's any different just because it's film. I don't see how 4 Batman comics can come out in a month and it's great, yet a Batman film coming out every 3 years would be "****ing out the franchise".

 

[Octoberist]

Film is a different medium all together.

 

[jmc]

I understand that these aren't the comics, but I really don't see how it's any different just because it's film. I don't see how 4 Batman comics can come out in a month and it's great, yet a Batman film coming out every 3 years would be "****ing out the franchise".

Because movie audiences are fickle.

 

[Octoberist]

The film audience is much more broader too where as comic books fits a very specific demographic.

 

[JoeyConQueso]

Personally, they should try a big screen animated movie. Maybe they could get lucky and start the Pixar equivalent for superhero/action cartoons. It's what they do best and they've got such a great animation dept. stuck doing most of their best work in the Direct To Video ghetto.

 

[psylockolussus]

Personally, they should try a big screen animated movie. Maybe they could get lucky and start the Pixar equivalent for superhero/action cartoons. It's what they do best and they've got such a great animation dept. stuck doing most of their best work in the Direct To Video ghetto.

Eh no

I think the problem with Warner Brothers, is they keep doing Batman and Superman movies, put other DC heroes (Wonder Woman, Flash, Justice League) in hell development and when they released movies other than Superman and Batman, it flopped.

 

[merced]

The last thing I wanna see is Batman trotted out and rebooted constantly, just because of greedy fanboys and executives. I too would prefer not to see a Batfilm franchise for a long time.

In the best of worlds WB wouldn't have to turn aroun and do another Batman film shortly after TDKR.

However, WB has problems with it's DCE characters. The recent GL disappointment front and center right now. A few years ago it was the SR disappointment.

My take is Robinov wants a rebooted Batman up fairly quickly. IMO we'll see another Batman film as early as 2015.

Other than that it's trying Flash or WW or another character. But with the big budgets required I don't see a solo film other than Batman from WB until after WB does a JL film.

 

[Raiden]

Eh no

I think the problem with Warner Brothers, is they keep doing Batman and Superman movies, put other DC heroes (Wonder Woman, Flash, Justice League) in hell development and when they released movies other than Superman and Batman, it flopped.

Exactly. WB is so preoccupied with only Batman and Superman movies because they never have any faith in the majority of their DC properties. They finally put together DC Entertainment which supposed to serve as a liason between WB and DB, and their first major outlet GL flopped. It will definitely make WB have even less faith on their non-Supe & Bat franchises, that's why I think they will decide to make a JLA movie instead of a solo movie for Flash, WW, and other superheroes.

 

[Donut]

Exactly. WB is so preoccupied with only Batman and Superman movies because they never have any faith in the majority of their DC properties. They finally put together DC Entertainment which supposed to serve as a liason between WB and DB, and their first major outlet GL flopped. It will definitely make WB have even less faith on their non-Supe & Bat franchises, that's why I think they will decide to make a JLA movie instead of a solo movie for Flash, WW, and other superheroes.

I hope Green Lanterns failure does not make the WB & DC think twice. They should look at what they did wrong with Green Lantern & do not do it again. First by not allowing any Studio Heads & Executives to not interfere with movie making decisions. They clearly just ruin things

 

[Airwings]

Green Lantern hasn't opened in Australia, Japan or half of Europe yet. I believe it will make a decent amount of money in these countries, all together.
So why say it's a failure already now???

 

[solidsnake86]

Why? After The Dark Knight Returns, Batman: Year One or Batman: The Killing Joke did anyone say, "I would rather not see is Batman trotted out, and published month after month, just because of greedy fanboys and executives."? No. Comic book films will only be popular for so long, so to even think you can depend on waiting 10 to 20 years to make more Batman films is asinine. Batman already had to sit out the first half of the 2000s because he was stuck in development hell. I don't know about you, but I am not Ra's al Ghul, I am not immortal. I only have so many years on this Earth, why should I have to wait to see a new Batman film because of a self-imposed moratorium "out of respect for the Christopher Nolan films". As awesome as they have been, Batman has been around for more than half a century before I was born, and he will be around in some form after I am dead. I think Warner Brothers should go ahead with more Batman films once they have a great idea.

Do you honestly think normal people care to see batman that much. Comparing it to releasing comics is comparing apples to oranges. Its also assuming that the dark knight rises is a well received film, which considering the insane heights TDK reached, the film may be a critical failure. In the grand scheme of things this will be batmans 7th feature film. I remember when begins came out people were saying "there making another one". Its got nothing to do with respect for nolan, it has to do with over saturation.

Once again I'm going to have to agree with The Batman, which I have been a lot recently. Its basically greedy fanboys that want more and more and executives that drive these franchises to the ground because they don't know when to stop.

 

[Airwings]

As for Narnia, I don't see why WB would want this franchise, since even Disney didn't think it was that viable and gave up the rights to another studio.

I think Warner bros have the ability to make Narnia into something big. Think about it! The other big non-Potter fantasy franchise should NOT be Twilight, it should be Narnia.
And Narnia has something Potter doesn't have, an actual fantasy world not like ours. It's a completely different dimension, or whatever you wanna call it, with its own geography. Potter is mostly about a single school, with a few journeys away from it. Narnia is all about new places/time periods

 

[Octoberist]

Green Lantern hasn't opened in Australia, Japan or half of Europe yet. I believe it will make a decent amount of money in these countries, all together.
So why say it's a failure already now???

Ummm...after being out for weeks, it barely cracked 100 million in the US. With the international market (so far), it's at $140 worldwide. And the overall budget with marketing is over 300. it's frigging doing worst than Ghost Rider. GHOST RIDer!!

It's a bomb even when it opens in the rest if the countries. Considering that Harry Potter opens worldwide soon too.

Even if it's 200 million, WB won't make a profit and it's pathetic since Thor has scored over 300 in a shorter time span.

 

[Stikmann]

I’m curious to see what Warner/DCE does with Batman after DKR. I mean, without Nolan to guide them, will the Bat-franchise fall apart? Other than Nolan, the track record just isn’t so great for WB/DCE. All it would take is another Schumacher to come along. And if they really do rush the re-boot, it could get ugly. Everyone assumes that we’ll keep seeing Batman movies…without a strong visionary like Nolan behind the franchise though, even Batman is no lock. I hope WB takes their time in considering where to go next. They put a lot of time and effort and nurturing behind the Potter franchise and it paid off bigtime…why rush Batman?

 

[Airwings]

With the international market (so far), it's at $140 worldwide.

I think it will at least double that number before the last showing in cinemas, perhaps even make more.

 

[MadVillainy]

lol I doubt it.
The WOM isnt that good
The reaction to the marketing isnt that good (hence why I ddint do that well in the first place)
and it has alot of competition\

and even if it doubles that it's still only 280 mill, which is under the 300 mill mark

 

[chiefchirpa]

I think it will at least double that number before the last showing in cinemas, perhaps even make more.

Too optimistic. Try 200 million WW or below.

GL has been lost in the shuffle with the incoming bigger movies, which is even more apparent overseas since they got their own locally produced movies and pirated media may be readily available.

 

[Octoberist]

I didn't expect or wanted GL to crash and burn like that. It's very sad and I just hope DC will make a decision soon.

I wouldn't be surprised if they something bold by getting a kickass producer to handle the properties. (JJ Abrams for example)

 

[Karelia]

JJ Abrams' doing Green Lantern... That would be amazing.

 

[Red Mask]

Ummm...after being out for weeks, it barely cracked 100 million in the US. With the international market (so far), it's at $140 worldwide. And the overall budget with marketing is over 300. it's frigging doing worst than Ghost Rider. GHOST RIDer!!

It's a bomb even when it opens in the rest if the countries. Considering that Harry Potter opens worldwide soon too.

Even if it's 200 million, WB won't make a profit and it's pathetic since Thor has scored over 300 in a shorter time span.

I've already mentioned that Green Lantern is opening in Australia when kids will already have gone back to school. Harry Potter is already coming out next week. Captain America will debut on July 28th. GL is coming out in August. Despite the push of commercials it's very doubtful it will make serious gains Down Under.

Plus they want to count on the Japanese market at a time like this? Bad planning, y'all. Very bad planning.

(FYI in neighboring New Zealand it's grossed a total of $1,229,448 so far.)

 

[TheVileOne]

What I want to know what will happen to the current regime at the features division of DCE following Green Lantern? Will things stay as is? I mean . . . has Diane Nelson really done a bang up job here?

 

[psylockolussus]

I think Warner bros have the ability to make Narnia into something big. Think about it! The other big non-Potter fantasy franchise should NOT be Twilight, it should be Narnia.
And Narnia has something Potter doesn't have, an actual fantasy world not like ours. It's a completely different dimension, or whatever you wanna call it, with its own geography. Potter is mostly about a single school, with a few journeys away from it. Narnia is all about new places/time periods

Yeah I agree

Narnia's fantasy world is bigger.