What is DC Entertainment doing? What is their plan?

[theMan-Bat]

Cool covers Man-Bat!

But....don't they show that DC and Marvel started "sharing the universe" at the same time?

New York World's Fair Comics #2 is from February, 1940 and Marvel Mystery Comics #7 is from May, 1940. So DC was first to have their superheroes appearing together, indicating that they are in the same Universe.

I don't know if it's a good thing that a Flash fan could easily die of old age waiting for his movie. ....All while seeing X-Men fans buy tickets to the 5th installment for them.

In December 2004 it was announced that David Goyer signed on to write, direct and produce a Flash movie.
http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2004/12/the-flash-on-film/
David Goyer finished his script for a Flash movie by May 2006, Which had both Barry Allen and Wally Wast as the Flash, and focused on Wally becoming the Flash with the intention of using Barry Allen as a supporting character. In the script, Wally West is touring the crime scene lab of his uncle, Barry Allen, when he’s doused in chemicals - after a lightning bolt strikes them – and he gains super-speed.
http://web.archive.org/web/20060910.../20060504_speedy_movement_on_flash_movie.html
Warner Brothers didn't like his script. David Goyer said, "The script did involve both Barry and Wally as the Flash. I wanted to showcase the legacy aspect of the hero. I wanted to go into the Speed Force and a lot of the cosmic aspects of the character from the more recent past. The God’s honest truth is that WB and myself simply couldn’t agree on what would make for a cool Flash film. I’m quite proud of the screenplay I turned it. I threw my heart into it and I genuinely think it would’ve been the basis of a ground-breaking film. But as of now, the studio is heading off in a completely different direction."
http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/02/02/goyer-my-version-of-the-flash-is-dead-at-wb/
David Goyer wanted Ryan Reynolds as Wally West/The Flash, Bradley Cooper as Zoom/Reverse Flash, Robert Patrick as Captain Cold and Grace Park as Linda Park.
http://www.videosurf.com/video/the-flash-movie-the-cast-that-david-goyer-chose-76366122
On June 9, 2010, Green Lantern script writers Greg Berlanti, Michael Green and Marc Guggenheim were hired to write a treatment for a Flash film starring Barry Allen.
http://speedforce.org/2010/06/gl2-trio-to-write-flash-movie/
On September 25, 2010, Greg Berlanti said, "Green Lantern is always a bit lighter than that on Earth but mixed with a twinge of the space opera, which has its own epic qualities to it. The Flash as we're getting into it is interesting, too. Though Barry Allen was a little lighter in the comic, I think because of the nature that he was a CSI and moved in this world of crime investigation before this stuff happened. I think it’s tonally somewhere in between Green Lantern and The Dark Knight. It’s actually a little bit darker than when we were working on (Green Lantern), because you’re dealing with somebody who is already a crime-fighter in a world of those kinds of criminals and that kind of murder and homicide. I find you talk a lot about different films when you’re working on a film, and we spend a lot more time talking about Se7en or The Silence of the Lambs as we construct that part of Barry’s world, then I thought when we got into it. It helps balance a guy in a red suit who runs really fast. A third thing I'd throw at you is alternate dimensions, so it's true that we want to find the things that make it… With Green Lantern, we used to say there's a space opera component and then there's the down on Earth. In The Flash, there's the sci-fi component and there's the crime component and it's fitting those two things together, and the sci-fi thing, we obviously want to nail that and honor that and do that in a way that feels visceral and real and cool and probably more in the tone of The Matrix films or things like that. I always think of The Flash stories where he met Jay Garrick and knows there was Earth-Prime and things like that. There's an avenue for these films to broaden the DC Film Universe in that way, so that's the hope."
http://www.superherohype.com/news/a...t-for-the-flash-and-gl2-treatment-in-progress

That's interesting. I put them the other way around for some reason. DC seems more Treky to me. Maybe because DC was first and "the establishment" when Marvel hit big kinda like how Trek was "the establishment" when Star Wars hit big. Marvel and SW seemed to "break the rules".

DC is definitely like Star Wars. The Guardians of the Universe are like a race of Yoda's. The Green Energy light is like the light side of the Force. The Green Lantern Corps are like the Jedi's. Hal Jordan is the Han Solo - the cocky pilot who discovers that an amazing powerful energy force actually exists. Kilowog is the Chewbacca - gruff towering creature with a heart of gold, and as a friend he's fiercely loyal. The Metal Men's Tin and Mercury are like R2-D2 and C-3PO. Apokolips is like the Death Star. Darkseid is both the Emperor manipulative fascist dictator and the Dark Vader dark father, his son Orion who is called upon a great power called the Source in confrontation with his father, is the Luke Skywalker who is called upon a power called the Force when he battled his father, a young warrior who learns that his arch enemy is also his father. The Source is also very much like the Force. Highfather even states that "the Source will be with us." Himon is like another Yoda. Mr. Miracle is a male Leia - separated as a child from his father with an unknown relation until revealed at adulthood. The Parademons are like the Stormtroopers. Desaad is like Grand Moff Tarkin. Steppenwolf is like Boba Fett. The Citadel soldiers are like a race of Jabba the Hutt's. Granny Goodness' slave camps on Apokolips are similar to the Clone Banks on Kamino. Highfather is the Obi-Wan Kenobi - the former warrior turned wise elder mentor. Big Barda's headpiece on her armor even looks a lot like Queen Amidala's royal headpiece. New Genesis is like Allderaan. The floating city Supertown on New Genesis is like the floating Cloud City on Bespin. Metron is like Lobot.

DC is also like Star Trek as well. The Green Lantern Corps of Sector Planets are like the United Starfleet Federation of Planets. Hal Jordan is the Captain Kirk of the Corps. Tomar-Re is the Mr. Spock of the Corps. Salaak is the cranky McCoy of the Corps. Alan Scott is the Captain Picard of the Corps. Stel is the Data of the Corps. Kilowog is the Worf of the Corps. The Guardians of the Universe Oans are like the Vulcans. The rebellious former Oan Controllers are like the rebellious former Vulcan Romulans. The [FONT=Verdana, ARIAL, HELVETICA]reptilian [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, ARIAL, HELVETICA]torturous [/FONT]Psions are like the [FONT=Verdana, ARIAL, HELVETICA]reptilian [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, ARIAL, HELVETICA]torturous [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, ARIAL, HELVETICA]Cardassians. [/FONT]The Manhunters are like the Borg. The mischievous Mr. Mxyzptlk from the Fifth Dimensional is like the mischievous Q from the Q Continuum. The Okaarans and the Khudians are both brutal war-mongering races like the Klingons. The Shapeshifters of Durala are like the Dominion Shapeshifters. The Star Trek Mirror Universe is like DC's Multiverse.

 

[The Batman]

i agree with man-bat...dc is star wars and star trek. and dc breaks the rules just as much as marvel has.

 

[TheVileOne]

Hal Jordan was meant for something bigger. Why should he else have gotten the ring?

Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four were all meant for something bigger .

It doesn't matter how Superman was raised, he's still an alien.

So is Thor and plenty of other MU characters. Captain Mar-vell anyone?

Bruce Wayne devoted his life to train himself near human perfection. That is pretty larger than life for a normal human.

So have plenty of Marvel characters.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

^ All rip-offs of Superman and Batman.

 

[The Morningstar]

Not really.

 

[Evil Twin]

Obviously DC Entertainment is not building towards the JLA. But, I don't think they're really hiding what they're doing.

1. More Batman films
2. Relaunch Superman
3. Launch a Green Lantern franchise


Marvel really only has 2 proven viable solo franchises so far, IM and Thor, although I expect Captain America to do fine although it's in a tough spot in the schedule. Avengers will do well, but I don't think that's probably a scheduling nightmare. Replacing RDJ after IM3 will obviously be a challenge though. I don't think Ant-Man or Dr. Strange, however good they may be, are likely huge blockbusters.

I think it's pretty obvious that WB is holding off on a Flash announcement until after they see the box office on Green Lantern. Like Marvel held off on their announcements until after the success of IM. And rumors are they have JLA in development too.

We also know DCE is developing a Sandman series for television. Marvel is developing a Hulk series Frankly, I think Sandman is more likely to be a success.

DCE also has an active and good series of cartoons and direct to video animated movies.

Obviously, DCE doesn't appear to have a grand plan of linked movies, but IM2 shows how that's not necessarily a plus. Otherwise, they both have plans for 4 or 5 separate franchises and time to develop more long shots.

 

[TheVileOne]

They already failed at relaunching Superman once. An expensive failed relaunch.

 

[Evil Twin]

So? They're trying again. Is DC not supposed to try to get a Superman franchise off the ground? It's not like they haven't had a successful Superman television show that just ended, so he's hardly been absent from the public consciousness.

Marvel's had more difficulties with getting a Hulk franchise off the ground.

 

[TheVileOne]

Superman should be an easier character to get off the ground than Hulk because its Superman.

And they are rushing this Superman movie out because of the lawsuit.

 

[The Morningstar]

Sandman tv show more likely to be a success than Hulk?

I really wish that was the case, because Gaiman's Sandman is ****ing awesome. But i really doubt it'll be more succesful than a Hulk show.

 

[Evil Twin]

Hulk has the problem of how do you do big special effects on a tv show budget? And what story angle do you take anyway? Obviously, Hulk has more of a built in audience, but it's not exactly a tv friendly format. At least tv friendly without retreading the Bixby series.

Where I see Sandman having an advantage is ready made story that doesn't rely on special effects.

 

[KangConquers]

What happens to DCE if Green Lantern under performs? I Know that's not something anyone wants to think about, but it's a possibility.

 

[HighFivingMF]

What happens to DCE if Green Lantern under performs? I Know that's not something anyone wants to think about, but it's a possibility.

Then they'll probably remove Green Lantern 2 from their slate.

 

[MadVillainy]

ANd Flash will probably stall too

 

[KangConquers]

ANd Flash will probably stall too

I'm worried GL bombing would set DCE back into a holding pattern of 4 batman movies and one or two superman movies per decade.

 

[MadVillainy]

It shouldnt but yeah.

I mentioned Flash because Flash has the same writers as GL so if GL doesnt do well I dont see DCE bringing back the writers of a failed movie when they already seem to be very cautious

 

[HighFivingMF]

I'm worried GL bombing would set DCE back into a holding pattern of 4 batman movies and one or two superman movies per decade.

I think it's a gigantic longshot that it will bomb. It could do less than expected, but an outright bomb? I don't see it.

 

[cherokeesam]

I don't think that an (unlikely) bomb on GL's part would slow DCE down one bit in their development project.

They've already announced, as of today, a HAWKMAN movie, for cryin' out loud. And there's that whole Superman guy currently filming --- I hear he's pretty popular with the kiddies...And it's a safe bet that Flash is still on the table, and that they're probably eyeing up WW for a film treatment again now that the TV pilot was cancelled.

GL isn't going to bomb. But even if it does, it's not going to slow DCE down one bit.
If Dark Knight bombs, OTOH, that's a whole 'nuther ball of wax....

 

[Cherry]

I'd prefer a shared universe, but if not, I guess that's okay, as long as the films maintain their quality. I definitely want to see Batman and Superman on screen together one day, whether it be Christian Bale and Henry Cavill or two other actors entirely; I just want to see them kick ass in all their live-action glory. If we get the rest of the JLA there too, that's just icing.

 

[Octoberist]

never sat never

 

[Octoberist]

With the whole DC comics reboot that came out of nowhere, I expect Johns and Lee will announce 'the move news with a huge splash as well. There's Cimic Con, but there's also that LA Times Hero Complex Film Con in mid June where they are reported to have big news there too.

 

[TheVileOne]

Honestly, I'm sort of sour on Geoff Johns after all this. I don't like this entire DCU reboot. He apparently had a lot of creative power on the GL movie so I don't know what happened there.

I hated Blackest Night and Brightest Day.

So what is next for DCE? How do they come out of this considering since they've formed they've made one lemon after another.

 

[Cherry]

So what is next for DCE? How do they come out of this considering since they've formed they've made one lemon after another.

I'm wondering if they won't just do a Justice League movie after Bats and Supes and hold off on the other solo movies. If/When Justice League succeeds, they may go from there, but honestly, the safest way to introduce these other characters (from DCE's perspective) is to do so with Batman by their sides.

 

[ClarkLuther55]

I disagree with that, since that whole Justice League Mortal thing. Green Lantern shows the risks of releasing a movie. If it's bad or even just mediocre, the character is tainted.

GL may have failed, but the only other thing that's probably been damaged is DC/WB's faith in their other characters. Which shouldn't be damaged, since a good movie is a good movie and should be more successful. Had this latest flop been a Justice League movie, then their entire stable of superhero characters would be lost.

You shouldn't put all your eggs in one basket. Even the GL movie by itself was too much of that, with its huge $300 million budget. Is a JLA movie going to be cheaper than that?

 

[TheVileOne]

No chance in hell.

Green Lantern starring Ryan Reynolds is also all but dead at this point. I guess this means if we ever see Green Lantern again it will be John Stewart in like a Justice League movie.