What is DC Entertainment doing? What is their plan?

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DC should see if The Man of Steel is good, if so then they should keep Nolan on board of the other movies too, and if they feel it's time for it, maybe in 5-10 years they can make a Justice League movie, but firts they should give Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Arrow and Darth Vader their oun movies
 
Darth Vader? His own film? Well, you need to ask George Lucas!
 
For a first film, it was a bit too much. If they had kept it at 150 million production budget, I think they'd be okay.

The problem, and this has to do with all the studios and not just WB, is the marketing budget. In the last ten years, the marketing budget at the studios has gotten out of control. That's why you hear rumbles that the studios are not going to be going to Comic Con that much anymore.

If the studios could ever get the marketing budgets and the contracts from the stars under control, they wouldn't loose as much money.

They should've know that from the beginning with the CGI and FX for GL. If you can create just about anything with a tiny ring the special effects should been great. The marketing really threw me off, they did some animation films (I think it was 3) with the character and it wasn't until the last two weeks before the movie came out that they started pushing it thruough all media. I agree with you.
 
DC should see if The Man of Steel is good, if so then they should keep Nolan on board of the other movies too, and if they feel it's time for it, maybe in 5-10 years they can make a Justice League movie, but firts they should give Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Arrow and Darth Vader their oun movies

Nolan is weird, he wants Superman and Batman in different universes. How can you make a world with JL when he wants everything separated? I would understand if its the films but he literally wants them in a separate worlds. WTF? Even the new Superman seems already bad.
 
Who is the head of DC Entertainment at the moment?
 
Nolan is weird, he wants Superman and Batman in different universes. How can you make a world with JL when he wants everything separated? I would understand if its the films but he literally wants them in a separate worlds. WTF? Even the new Superman seems already bad.

Keeping the heroes separate in the solo movies is a valid decision. And frankly, Nolan is totally right not to want some other idiot's crap to mix into his film universe. I can understand him being protective and territorial, when everybody else at the WB doesn't seem to have a clue.

They need to successfully launch separate solo franchises other than Batman, before any talk of a Justice League movie happens. As of right now, even Superman is still waiting to be reestablished. I actually think that a lot of fans were way too hard on Superman Returns (stupid love child and all), but as a franchise starter? In that role it was completely ass backwards. Singer's very premise was the type of thing that ought to have been vetoed right away by the higher ups. Just goes to show how smart the WB leadership is.
 
Getting nolan to godfather everything is an unimaginative idea. Its what a hack executive would think up. I'm kinda bothered he has anything to do with MOS in the first place.
 
Getting nolan to godfather everything is an unimaginative idea. Its what a hack executive would think up. I'm kinda bothered he has anything to do with MOS in the first place.

Agreed on both points
 
They need to successfully launch separate solo franchises other than Batman, before any talk of a Justice League movie happens. As of right now, even Superman is still waiting to be reestablished. I actually think that a lot of fans were way too hard on Superman Returns (stupid love child and all), but as a franchise starter? In that role it was completely ass backwards. Singer's very premise was the type of thing that ought to have been vetoed right away by the higher ups. Just goes to show how smart the WB leadership is.
I can't help but wonder why Superman needs to be reestablished. He's Superman!

Wouldn't it be ok to put him in a JLA movie as he is?

Not that I don't want a great Supes movie.
 
Getting nolan to godfather everything is an unimaginative idea. Its what a hack executive would think up. I'm kinda bothered he has anything to do with MOS in the first place.

I said that in frustration, to express my utter disgust with the way that the WB is running things. Of course there's not one blanket formula that should be applied to everything.

I'm fine with him "godfathering" other superhero movies though, since that's a a limited role that's distinct actually directing a movie. MOS is Snyder's movie. For all we know, "godfather" might boil down to "make some suggestions and veto the stupid ass ideas." Something that the WB desperately needs. Just someone to say, "wait a minute, that's freaking stupid" could've spared us the pain of CINO, Superman's bastard son, DEK's Wonder woman, and a $300 (or is it now $400?) million budget for GL.
 
I can't help but wonder why Superman needs to be reestablished. He's Superman!

Wouldn't it be ok to put him in a JLA movie as he is?

Not that I don't want a great Supes movie.

Problem is, there is no "as he is" right now. Brandon Routh's contract expired and he wasn't renewed. The only Superman we have now is the one who will appear in the upcoming Zach Snyder movie. That's the one who should be used in any JLA movie.

And as I've argued before, I think that they should hold off on JLA until they can actually launch solo franchises. WB can't afford to make another risky big budget flop after Green Lantern.
 
GL was a colossal disappointment with both the box office and critics, so the likelihood of a sequel is definitely tampered. But does that mean the vaster pantheon of DC properties beyond Supes and Bats on screen is less of a possibility? I'd say it dooms GL more than anyone else.

They really don't need a $200-300 million Flash movie. Sure the fastest man alive will require considerable CGI and FX but nowhere near GL. No manifested constructs from a magic ring, no planet Oa, no flock of 3,600 aliens. The Flash is more grounded in reality than much of the DC lineup rendered too mythological and god-like. But at the same time, Flash lends itself to jaw-dropping, super-speed action sequences. Flash should be a February or March release, it doesn't need to be that expensive summer blockbuster.
 
Getting nolan to godfather everything is an unimaginative idea. Its what a hack executive would think up. I'm kinda bothered he has anything to do with MOS in the first place.

Well, if Nolan hadn't brought Goyer's Superman idea to WB they would still be clueless as to what to do with the character.

But, I agree that he shouldn't "godfather" everything. This was a special case as he was the one that came to WB, they didn't come to him. They couldn't force him to come up with an idea for one of their superheroes if he wasn't feeling it, but apparently Goyer's Superman idea really connected with him.
 
Angie is a beautiful women who I love looking at on the big screen but after the reviews from GL, I'd bet my left nut that WBs does everything they can to separate themselves from the movie.
 
Angie is a beautiful women who I love looking at on the big screen but after the reviews from GL, I'd bet my left nut that WBs does everything they can to separate themselves from the movie.

I think she is too beautiful to play Amanda Waller, I prefer Waller as a short, fat woman, it makes more realistic then almost every other female character in DCU looking like a super model.
 
Keeping the heroes separate in the solo movies is a valid decision. And frankly, Nolan is totally right not to want some other idiot's crap to mix into his film universe. I can understand him being protective and territorial, when everybody else at the WB doesn't seem to have a clue.

They need to successfully launch separate solo franchises other than Batman, before any talk of a Justice League movie happens. As of right now, even Superman is still waiting to be reestablished. I actually think that a lot of fans were way too hard on Superman Returns (stupid love child and all), but as a franchise starter? In that role it was completely ass backwards. Singer's very premise was the type of thing that ought to have been vetoed right away by the higher ups. Just goes to show how smart the WB leadership is.

But that's the thing, the whole idea behind creating a universe is to have multiple creators in one room and hatch out how is each film going to come out, what ties will it have with the other films. Now is just a mess, each on their own except MOS and TDKR; I do see some hope with the Flash and other heroes being made, since Goyer is close with Nolan. Goyer has a history of making scripts from comic books that turn up great. He even had scripts for GA, WW and the Flash, he got turned down by WB.

Superman feels like is going on a roundabout, cause Singer makes the movie saying that it takes places 5 years after Superman 2 and now Snyder wants to use the same characters from Superman 2 in MOS. Brandon Routh could've still played Superman, they messed that up in WB.
 
Problem is, there is no "as he is" right now. Brandon Routh's contract expired and he wasn't renewed. The only Superman we have now is the one who will appear in the upcoming Zach Snyder movie. That's the one who should be used in any JLA movie.

And as I've argued before, I think that they should hold off on JLA until they can actually launch solo franchises. WB can't afford to make another risky big budget flop after Green Lantern.

I remember Kevin Smith talking about how studios make their money back, he did say that they make most of their money back thru DVD sales, I'm not saying that they don't make their money out of ticket sales too, but DVDs are defenetly The economy has not been very good as of recently and this is also a superhero orgy from Xmen, Thor, GL and Captain America that's the most comic books movies that have come out in a 4 month period.

I completely agree with you that they should hold on the JLA movie until the solo franchises, but how are they going to build a franchise when they don't even have a plan. WW gets cancelled before it even airs, they should've put all their resources into making the movie. Yesterday, I found out that GL had more time than the 90 minutes that was given plus the cameos from another GL. There's not a strategy in sight at all for DC, they have to work harder than before in order to get such characters out there.
 
So what is Ms. Nelson role again in this venture?
 
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