What is DC Entertainment doing? What is their plan?

[SoulManX]

You know who should have directed GL Brad Bird with his track record I think it would have fair better

 

[Crockett]

I don't know about it being better, especially if he work with the same script Campbell had to worked with.

 

[Airwings]

It's really ridiculous. I knew WB was clueless about what to do with their DC brand but damn this is just sad to see. They're looking everywhere for direction and they have the vision they should follow already under their noses. The way they're handling Batman and Superman (stand alone universes) is they way ALL DC properties should be handled.

Focus on making the best Aquaman, Wonder Woman and Flash movie you could make AT A TIME. These characters are too rich to not get the best possible adaptations they could get. Their all very diverse from each other but the one common denominator is that all have brilliant themes and fantastic concepts. It's all a matter of giving it to the people that could properly translate that into a great cinematic presentation for each individual character.

Put talent that cares to bring these properties to life to their greatest ability. The right talent that will make people outside the fan community understand WHY these characters are so brilliant and have sustained for over 60 years each.

Just look at Batman. You have people that didn't think it was ever possible to see a good Batman movie again or who wrote the character completely off altogether after B&R hotly anticipating the next Batman now. Why? they matched it with the proper talent; people who care enough to adapt it with grace. Not only that they didn't force them into a "shared universe" corner which allowed them to make the best Batman movie they could make at a time TWICE already cause of the freedom that space provides.

I don't know why they can't see that their characters being more mythological and epic in scope than the competition's are better off with a treatment that explains why each of these "Gods" of the comics universe is worth a damn in the first place within their own individual universes. Really showcasing their importance to their world and why Coast City or Central City or Gotham City would not be better off without them.

I can't describe it any better that you. I will only write everything down again if I even try.
Using the word "god" is right for DC heroes. It's more or less what they are. Even non-powered guys like Batman and Green Arrow still stand out. They are above normal humans in fighting skills, and their use of gadgets is unique.
To make a move adaption really work, you need to find a guy like Peter Jackson. His love for LOTR and the way he pushed his own vision through, THAT'S how to do it.

 

[Kyle Rayner]

Batman and Superman are showing new light to their films for next year release. Batman WILL BE DONE for a least a while and Superman is just starting to breath again.

DC mishandling of their properties has everyone on their toes, from restarting their 52 tittles to not having another movie property in the works to the mishandling of their marketing department they are going to go down in flames.

GL2 in the works? I doubt it. If they keep on putting their hands and not letting directors do their job everything they'll tank. If Nolan is going to be the godfather of the DC films let him and Bruce Timm, and David Goyer create the DC Universe and then work towards a DC JLA film.

 

[Kyle Rayner]

One thing that DC should really do, is get the guys that have had a GREAT record of making films and franchises that were once doomed; just don't **** all over it.

Duncan Jones did an amazing job with the Source Code. Martin Campbell restarted the James Bond franchise, he should've have complete control of GL. J.J. Abraham could make a DC Universe of his own. This is not complicated to do. WB had the library, financial resources and but no direction.

 

[baerrtt]

What makes anyone think these top notch directors have any interest in any of these properties? I remember people used to say Spielberg should do the Captain America movie because of the somewhat similar Indiana Jones movies instead they ended up with Joe Johnston the 2nd rate Spielberg protege. Spielberg obviously had better things to do.

To an extent I agree with you. If we're keeping it to just DC superhero properties and not the Vertigo stuff (where it is easy to imagine Fincher/Del Toro wanting to adapt) some fans are far too assumptive in believing that their favourite characters would also happen to interest top directing talent.

Though regarding the hiring of JJ for CAPTAIN AMERICA Marvel Studios wants directors, however talented, that aren't going to be either too expensive or 'rock the boat' when it comes to final cut (which they have).

 

[akfj]

DC mishandling of their properties has everyone on their toes, from restarting their 52 tittles to not having another movie property in the works to the mishandling of their marketing department they are going to go down in flames.

One thing that DC should really do, is get the guys that have had a GREAT record of making films and franchises that were once doomed; just don't **** all over it.

It's not up to DC, they're not a film studio. Warner Bros. has the control.

 

[Kyle Rayner]

It's not up to DC, they're not a film studio. Warner Bros. has the control.

WB has the control but Geoff Johns, Dan Didio and Jim Lee are running DC Comics, those are the guys that are suppose to be working on pushing out the comic book franchises from pages to film. NOTHING has been heard from either of those three. Robinov is the guy in charge of WB, but he needs to start firing some people. Nolan has delived time and again, give him the reigns to create DC Comics film universe. Obviously, Johns, Didio and Lee are not helping if they are they would be at least giving interviews and stay away from the comic books for a little while.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Nolan has delived time and again, give him the reigns to create DC Comics film universe.

He doesn't want one.

 

[Karelia]

WB/DC talking about doing more shows for CW. I'd love to see Nightwing or The Question have their own tv show. Anyone else got any picks they'd like to see?

 

[Captain Marvel]

Forget The Question or Nightwing. They should do Batman. How hard would it really be? They could probably grab the costume and the Tumbler off the movies and use it for the series, which would already put it miles ahead of any other television series. And Batman's rogues gallery is already ideal for television, as most of them can be recreated easily for the small screen, as they're mostly just men with gimmicks and equipment, as opposed to people with powers. If they were to get some good writers on board and do fight stuntwork similar to what the series Alias had it'd make for a pretty killer show.

 

[04nbod]

They will never waste Batman on the CW or even TV when its making hundreds of millions in film.

 

[Captain Marvel]

Since when does it have to be an either/or proposition? Last I checked, Superman was appearing in an animated cartoon... while he was appearing on live-action tv... while having a feature film released in theatres... while he was being published in innumerable comics. So why not have a Batman television series running as well as do a movie?

 

[Kyle Rayner]

He doesn't want one.

He (Nolan) doesn't want it but he's behind the new Superman film? Yeah, ok. He doesn't have to direct them, but have some input into them. For a guy who made a superhero movie, billions for a studio I think he can have the input to place on hell of a universe in their pockets.

Now if Bale was more of a team player to be part of the JLA rather than a diva, unlike RDJ, he could be the guy ahead to get the JLA films on track!

 

[HighFivingMF]

He (Nolan) doesn't want it but he's behind the new Superman film?

Which is specifically set in a different universe than the Batman movies. If he or Goyer have an idea for a Green Arrow movie or something they'll get behind it. But Clark, Bruce, and Ollie aren't going to be hanging out anytime soon.

 

[Micromind]

Nolan was interested in Batman as a character and he was a fan of Donner Superman movies so he was partly interested in Superman, that's all, He will not want to be associated with any other superheros.

 

[Kyle Rayner]

Which is specifically set in a different universe than the Batman movies. If he or Goyer have an idea for a Green Arrow movie or something they'll get behind it. But Clark, Bruce, and Ollie aren't going to be hanging out anytime soon.

Goyer had/has the script for a Green Arrow movie called "Supermax." It was going to be GA in a prison with many of DC supervillain, according to Goyer is was a "Superhero film/Prison Break" style of film. For whatever reasons, WB said no and DC Entertaintment didn't even flintch to give GA a bone at all. Goyer is behind the success of Blade trilogy and the Batman trilogy, as to why WB said no is simple (like most people that don't know the character other than on film) GA is not a brand name.

 

[Kyle Rayner]

Which is specifically set in a different universe than the Batman movies. If he or Goyer have an idea for a Green Arrow movie or something they'll get behind it. But Clark, Bruce, and Ollie aren't going to be hanging out anytime soon.

Which brings the next thing, by universe they mean different film or alternate universe overall? If that's the case kill all of DC characters, leave Batman and Superman to survive, then Disney/Marvel can come in BUY THE REST of the DC encyclopedia (since according to them all other DC characters are worthless) and continue branching out movies maybe I'll see a DC vs. Marvel or Amalgam Comics film.

At this point DC Entertainment is based on Superman and Batman.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Goyer had/has the script for a Green Arrow movie called "Supermax." It was going to be GA in a prison with many of DC supervillain, according to Goyer is was a "Superhero film/Prison Break" style of film. For whatever reasons, WB said no and DC Entertaintment didn't even flintch to give GA a bone at all. Goyer is behind the success of Blade trilogy and the Batman trilogy, as to why WB said no is simple (like most people that don't know the character other than on film) GA is not a brand name.

And the script wasn't that good. I've read it. It could be a gem with some polishing, but it didn't have that polishing.

Which brings the next thing, by universe they mean different film or alternate universe overall? If that's the case kill all of DC characters, leave Batman and Superman to survive, then Disney/Marvel can come in BUY THE REST of the DC encyclopedia (since according to them all other DC characters are worthless) and continue branching out movies maybe I'll see a DC vs. Marvel or Amalgam Comics film.

I'd reply to this but I have no idea what the Hell you mean. Nolan was interested in Superman so he helped get Superman made. That has nothing to do with the other characters. They're not going to inhabit the same universe or sell the rights to the characters. Kill the DC characters why? Sell them why? According to who are the DC characters worthless?

 

[HighFivingMF]

And you want to see a movie based on those ****** Amalgam comics? REALLY? REALLY?

 

[Kyle Rayner]

And the script wasn't that good. I've read it. It could be a gem with some polishing, but it didn't have that polishing.




I'd reply to this but I have no idea what the Hell you mean. Nolan was interested in Superman so he helped get Superman made. That has nothing to do with the other characters. They're not going to inhabit the same universe or sell the rights to the characters. Kill the DC characters why? Sell them why? According to who are the DC characters worthless?

Nolan got Superman set up and have Zack Snyder (hopefully it works, the guy has a amazing record). Why wouldn't DC characters occupay the same universe? You answer that. It's preposterous for a director to make such a bold-misguided move when the competitor (Marvel/Disney) has/was connecting films from one another to create a universe.

If they are not going to support their own characters, do right by their own product then they should just "cut" their loses. Obviously, characters like Captain Marvel, Aquaman, Hawkman and GA have had great sales on comic stand. When they appear in shows like "Batman Brave and Bold," JLU and the Batman, those characters get some major exposion. When the company that is "supposed" to be pushing the characters to compete with the other brand (Marvel/Disney) keeps on putting their money in their two major characters there's really nothing else to attrack new fans. They are just going to keep rehashing the same crapfest over and over again.

The major overhaul that DC is trying to do right it may be a hit or miss. If they don't want to do any other characters then sell them. WARNER BROTHERS MAKES THE CHARACTERS WORTHLESS when they hold them back, most writers and artist just want to do the same crap day in and day out "IF IS NOT SUPERMAN/BATMAN THEN I DON'T WANT TO DO IT"! Green Lantern could've been a great film, this was DC moment in the spotlight to show WB that there is potential for other characters outside Batman and Superman. I'm happy that Batman will have a good trilogy, Superman is starting again, that's great for old fans and new fans. However, there are other characters that could and should have a chance, if and THAT'S IF WB learns to stay out of the directors way, leave the director and DC Entertaintment deal with the film itself.

 

[Kyle Rayner]

And you want to see a movie based on those ****** Amalgam comics? REALLY? REALLY?

I was being a smartass, but I probably could pull of a Super-Soldier costume or a Iron Lantern look. I liked the short lived comic book, but just like in the comic book in real live Marvel kicked DC ass!

 

[tfn]

Since when does it have to be an either/or proposition? Last I checked, Superman was appearing in an animated cartoon... while he was appearing on live-action tv... while having a feature film released in theatres... while he was being published in innumerable comics. So why not have a Batman television series running as well as do a movie?

Beacause the studio heads believe that you won't pay to see a character on the big screen that you can get for free on tv. That's why Bruce Wayne and Diana Prince could never be on Smallville. They believe that if you had seen that one episode where Bruce Wayne came to town it would have forever satisfied your need for a live action Batman. So in their eyes no crossover = The Dark Knight made a billion dollars while a crossover = empty seats covered in dust and cobwebs.

When Superman Returns was in production there was talk that they considered canceling Smallville so there wouldn't be competing versions of the same character until Bryan Singer told the studio that different approaches could co-exist. Even so, Gough and Millar had a powwow with Singer so they could kind of streamline things which is why after season 5 everything kryptonian consisted of magic crystals and Krypton didn't blow up, the sun did and took the planet with it.

Which brings us to the other school of thought that some people think that if there is a Batman show while there is a Batman movie franchise that the audience will run out of the theaters screaming into the night plucking their eyes out of their sockets while falling on their knees in confusion because they are too stupid to realize that movies and tv are different beasts.

And then, every now and then it really is a legal matter of "Hey! I paid good money for the rights to Character ABC so everyone else hands off!"

 

[Kyle Rayner]

Beacause the studio heads believe that you won't pay to see a character on the big screen that you can get for free on tv. That's why Bruce Wayne and Diana Prince could never be on Smallville. They believe that if you had seen that one episode where Bruce Wayne came to town it would have forever satisfied your need for a live action Batman. So in their eyes no crossover = The Dark Knight made a billion dollars while a crossover = empty seats covered in dust and cobwebs.

When Superman Returns was in production there was talk that they considered canceling Smallville so there wouldn't be competing versions of the same character until Bryan Singer told the studio that different approaches could co-exist. Even so, Gough and Millar had a powwow with Singer so they could kind of streamline things which is why after season 5 everything kryptonian consisted of magic crystals and Krypton didn't blow up, the sun did and took the planet with it.

Which brings us to the other school of thought that some people think that if there is a Batman show while there is a Batman movie franchise that the audience will run out of the theaters screaming into the night plucking their eyes out of their sockets while falling on their knees in confusion because they are too stupid to realize that movies and tv are different beasts.

And then, every now and then it really is a legal matter of "Hey! I paid good money for the rights to Character ABC so everyone else hands off!"

Batman doesn't need anymore expousure than what it he has. The Wonder Woman tv show that got canned a few months back should've had a more mature and realistic approach. WB should've kept Bale attached to all the other DC projects, if Bale doesn't want to hopefully Cavill will want to take charge of being DC's posterboy for a future JLA film.

 

[Karelia]

Green Arrow/Green Lantern tv series?