Sequels What is Fox's gameplan?

[Zarex]

the integrety of the MCU is to important to disney and marvel since if people start losing interest in marvel movies then what has marvel got left?

Marvel is first and foremost a publishing concern with a catalog of sci-fi, fantasy, crime, horror, romance and comedy stories. If folks start losing interest in those genres all creators of scripted entertainment are in deep doo doo.

 

[Sithborg]

Except, the MCU is NOT a diversified product. I mean, the branching out that their Netflix ventures are doing is not going into the movies.

And Marvel Comics is such a tiny concern compared to the MCU, moneywise.

 

[Zarex]

Except, the MCU is NOT a diversified product. I mean, the branching out that their Netflix ventures are doing is not going into the movies.

Agree to disagree! Not counting the Netflix shows, we've gotten sci-fi, fantasy, a monster movie, a WWII period piece, a political thriller, a space opera and a superhero mash-up. And films exploring the supernatural and a superhero coming of age are in the queue.

Even if the market for superhero based entertainment starts to dry up, all indications are that the MCU will be the last man standing. Marvel Studios can also do what Atlas did in the 1950s - explore genres that are less "superheroicy", as they've already done with Guardians

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

the integrety of the MCU is to important to disney and marvel since if people start losing interest in marvel movies then what has marvel got left?

The legacy of the highest grossing franchise in cinematic history? The same thing Lucasfilm has when people lose interest in Star Wars? They didn't make a Star Wars movie in ten years, did Lucasfilm shrivel up and die?

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

To post on topic I think it would be good to have Apocalypse weakened, near depowered at the end of X-Men: Apocalypse and for him to flee and then have X-Force formed to hunt him down as he'd get stronger again and pose a big threat.

Their overall gameplan is rather obvious with Gambit, Wolverine 3, untitled 2018 X-Men movie, New Mutants and two TV shows. The only real question is how the stories will unfold and the eras of each movie and other such details

Your opinion. Not the general consensus. Based on box-office numbers, people are supporting what Fox is doing with the X-Men.

And if Fox could reboot their other film series, I don't see why they cannot do that with X-Men 10 years from now. Its small minded if you think the only way for success is a reboot set in the MCU.

Hit the nail on the head. Some however don't care about Marvel franchises unless they're shackled to other Marvel franchises.

This reboot at Disney discussion isn't even part of the thread topic as Fox packing up the franchise and selling isn't a gameplan its an end.

This thread is for the future movie and tv shows of the IP at Fox, not the end of it at Fox.

Doesn't matter what any fan here wants though. This is all business.

Exactly. Business-wise there's little reason for Fox to give away a valuable IP or sell it when it's doing this well.

Sony & Columbia made their deals as they were progressively receivng poor reception and decreasing box office on their Marvel movies. Fox & New Line relented on Daredevil & Blade as they weren't being utilised.

Neither of those is the case with this IP as X-Men is receiving increasing box office returns and glowing reception rivalling the other comic book movies in the market

The legacy of the highest grossing franchise in cinematic history?

They'd have the legacy of the highest grossing mega-franchise.

The Harry Potter franchise is the highest grossing movie franchise as a franchise is a movie and its sequels and remakes and reboots not a movie and other movies, even if they share continuity.
Thor isn't a sequel to Iron Man as it has different lead characters, different supporting characters, different story, different setting ect. It's it's own thing in every way except continuity.

 

[ImSGirl95]

The Harry Potter franchise is the highest grossing movie franchise

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...s#Highest-grossing_franchises_and_film_series

 

[Mike Murdock]

It still is if you go by average per film (obviously, there are more Marvel films so they'll eventually pass anything with fewer films).

 

[Val_Zod]

Your opinion. Not the general consensus. Based on box-office numbers, people are supporting what Fox is doing with the X-Men.

And if Fox could reboot their other film series, I don't see why they cannot do that with X-Men 10 years from now. Its small minded if you think the only way for success is a reboot set in the MCU.

They can't do that because they have to release an Xmen film every few years. They don't own the property.

 

[psylockolussus]

They could release small budgeted films for Cable/Domino/Wolfsbane in a span of 10 years and keep the film rights for the X-Men. Then release the reboot film after that.

The MCU is too big, too profitable and too important to Disney to completely destroy just to incorporate the X-men, so... errr yes

No one is indicating that but you.

But if you want to shoehorn X-Men after 20 films from MCU and a dozen of TV shows and act like mutants been around all those times then okay. Thankfully that won't happen anytime soon.

 

[Havok83]

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No one is indicating that but you.

But if you want to shoehorn X-Men after 20 films from MCU and a dozen of TV shows and act like mutants been around all those times then okay. Thankfully that won't happen anytime soon.

No, that sentiment has been reiterated not that it matters.

And thankfully they arent about to destroy the entire the MCU in order to reboot it anytime soon as well

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...s#Highest-grossing_franchises_and_film_series

Exactly.

The films in the cross-franchise Marvel Cinematic Universe have collectively

^ Cross-franchise not franchise

The Harry Potter franchise is the highest-grossing series based on a single property

^ Franchise

One is defined as a cross-franchise of several franchises and the other as a single franchise not several. Therefore MCU isn't a franchise its a cross-franchise, Mega-franchise, or whatever other term that indicates several franchises collected together

 

[Mike Murdock]

It's both a franchise and all those other terms.

 

[Flint Marko]

The Harry Potter franchise is the highest grossing movie franchise as a franchise is a movie and its sequels and remakes and reboots not a movie and other movies, even if they share continuity.
Thor isn't a sequel to Iron Man as it has different lead characters, different supporting characters, different story, different setting ect. It's it's own thing in every way except continuity.

You've been claiming this for quite some time now when it's been pointed out to you dozens of times that you're wrong. If what you keep saying is true, then we need to call up Wikipedia, Boxofficemojo, and Forbes to let them know they need to adjust their lists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Cinematic_Universe

The Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) is an American media franchise and shared fictional universe that is centered on a series of superhero films, independently produced by Marvel Studios and based on characters that appear in publications by Marvel Comics. The franchise has expanded to include comic books, short films, and television series.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchises/sort/World

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/?view=Franchise&sort=sumgross&order=DESC

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emjl45edekd/1-marvel-cinematic-unive/

Why is this so difficult for you to accept?

 

[psylockolussus]

One is defined as a cross-franchise of several franchises and the other as a single franchise not several. Therefore MCU isn't a franchise its a cross-franchise, Mega-franchise, or whatever other term that indicates several franchises collected together

Franchise, megafranchise, semi franchise... who cares on who gets the bragging rights on which is the highest grossing franchise ever? X-Men is not even close to that and I'm not losing any sleep from it. As long as the movies that Fox are producing are good and the box-office gross is enough for them to greenlit a sequel then I'm all good. Not every movie has to gross more than 1 billion or break records.

 

[KDM1986]

If Marvel regains the rights, introducing the Mitants wouldn't be that hard. Dr. Strange has access to other dimensions and could easily have a storyline where an alternate Earth had the mutants or something along those lines.

 

[Havok83]

Im really not a fan of an alternate reality being used to bring an influx of characters not native to the MCU

 

[marvelrobbins]

why are people even talking about X-Men going to MCU? Fox isn't stopping doing X-Men films anytime soon.seriously some people act like they care more about MCU than X-Men in the X-Men section.

 

[Sithborg]

Especially with all the money they are going to make with Deadpool.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I am going to call it now deadpool's success as r rated film is going to cause other studios to consider doing r rated films from comic book films.once someone does something in hollywood and is success others copy it.

 

[Zarex]

FOX desperately needed a star post Wolverine and they've got a big one now with Deadpool. I could see the next slate of FOX films (Gambit, New Mutants, X-Force) relying on Reynolds as the first wave of X-films focused on Jackman. One thing is clear - Gambit is getting a big budget reduction. There's no way Tatum can justify a $150M budget for that one.

 

[Sithborg]

Eh, it is within the range of other MCU first outings. With Deadpool being so profitable, I can see them willing to risk a little bit more.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Eh, it is within the range of other MCU first outings. With Deadpool being so profitable, I can see them willing to risk a little bit more.

Fox will give sequel more money.this gamble by fox is paying off.Deadpool
having a r rating,first time director,and star which had been in a lot of bombs
made it a real risk.it also has at present a 84% fresh at RT which is higher
than first X-Men.I doudt few saw the high box office and high RT numbers coming.

 

[Sithborg]

That's not my point. Deadpool is going to be so, so profitable, that Fox is going to have a little bit of fun money. So, they may easily be willing to try to replicate a MCU high budget first outing.

 

[Mike Murdock]

My expectation is Deadpool will go from 60 to maybe 90 or 100 million next time. Gambit will probably get some money taken away, but not much. Maybe the equivalent amount - 150 to 120. I think it's possible to scale it down a touch without hurting it too much.

 

[Flint Marko]

Deadpool's runaway success might make them more confident and willing to take more risks, but that $150 million pricetag for Gambit still doesn't make any sense to me.