Sequels What is Fox's gameplan?

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[Rorschach2012]

there ar emore than 5 people seeing X-men films

True but that's not what I said at all. There's only like five dudes on here that actually want the XMEN to stay where they don't frickin belong, And the same five people defend the foxmen movies every time.

I'm sorry it's just a matter of right and wrong I truly believe that. XMEN don't belong in their own universe, I can't believe some of you can't see how truly wrong that is. I'm right here, and I will be validated in time. I guarantee it

 

[Rorschach2012]

We can argue this forever but you will see that I am right in time. Just wait for gambit and new mutants to fail and for new Spider Man to succeed. 2017 is a good call for the eventual announcement

 

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[Rorschach2012]

yes there is downside for X-Men fans.another f-ing reboot

more humor forced into X-Men films

X-men losing darkness and whta makes it X-Men

X-Men turned in third avengers and second rate Inhumans

You are too ignorant and stubborn for anyone to ever get to you lol. None of what you said has to be true. TWS proves this, and when it DOES happen, fox will be producing the movies anyway, just with some say from Marvel.

Oh btw it won't be another reboot because there hasn't been a reboot in the XMEN films. That's not a reboot. Not even close. You don't know what that word means

Here's what we get with Marvel

Not **** costumes

A restart for this **** timeline

New wolverine without things being weird (if you think they can replace Jackman in this universe you are wrong, people will be ok with a new Wolverine if he is in the MCU )

A dark tone is all but guaranteed, it's what XMEN are known for. TWS style tone is surely what we WILL(not can, will) get

Do you know how many characters have been utterly ****ed by fox? They need to restart desperately. From the beginning. It's gone too far.

Thinking that this universe can go on this way is truly a joke. Maybe before the golden age of comic book movies, but not anymore

 

[Rorschach2012]

foxmen just proves your MCU fanboy

How the **** .... Ok, except that's what these movies are. XMEN though the fox filter . With Marvel thy would be actually accurate XMEN not through an outdated ass filter. Fox is so afraid to get truly comic booky, and the MCU never has been

Once again it's just right and wrong, I won't sway because five dudes prefer the segregation. It doesn't. Make. Sense. Why a marvel fan would ever want this to be separate.

If a poll was conducted, virtually everyone in the world with an opinion on the matter would agree that the XMEN belong with the other marvel characterS. It's literally too simple and easy to understand

Fox would still be making the solo movies, guaranteeing a dark tone, you are coming up with DESPERATE excuses why this shouldn't happen. You are too wrong.

 

[magneto23]

MCU reboot: fresh start, guaranteed more money, precedent exists for there to be dark movies in the MCU (TWS), literally NO DOWNSIDE

No downside? You mean besides the fact there's been no mention of mutants in the mcu? 3 phases of world building and not a single mutant around? It's not believable. Unless you're suggesting reboot all around for every franchise? Because that's the ONLY way any marvel/mcu reboot works.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I have provided all the correct reasons for this to happen but some of you are too ignorant and stubborn to realize what the right decision is here. In time you will surely realize how right I am about this.

 

[Rorschach2012]

No downside? You mean besides the fact there's been no mention of mutants in the mcu? 3 phases of world building and not a single mutant around? It's not believable. Unless you're suggesting reboot all around for every franchise? Because that's the ONLY way any marvel/mcu reboot works.

Truly a **** excuse, the worst. No imagination here... The XMEN have been hiding, they have always been secluded they are simply waiting for the right time to come out of the dark. Soooooo damn easy to explain. And the worst reason to not incorporate those characters into the mcu

Edit: do you know how easy it'd be for Professor x to mind wipe anyone that witnessed the XMEN or mutants? Come on just use your imagination. If the XMEN aren't ready to come out of hiding yet, then they can believably remain hidden

Plus with Civil War looming, that totally sets the stage for the mutant fear. The timing couldn't be better

 

[2kt09]

The XMEN exist in the same universe as other Marvel heroes, it's not right for them to be in their own universe.

Also **** the stupid idea of incorporating the convoluted timeline of the XMEN movies into the MCU via multiverse. That's even worse than no XMEN at all. Just reboot the whole damn thing, the time has come for us to get the true XMEN.

The alternate is even dumber akin to the way they've already intro'd the Inhumans. Oh wow, speak of the devil:

Truly a **** excuse, the worst. No imagination here... The XMEN have been hiding, they have always been secluded they are simply waiting for the right time to come out of the dark. Soooooo damn easy to explain. And the worst reason to not incorporate those characters into the mcu

You're in this for costumes and different portrayals which apparently has zero impact as you implied to the quality of the films. So, that's completely doable with the same characters from this universe being forced to interact with the Avengers and the ilk.

I'll rephrase: Vaughn rebooted and the fact that the franchise lingered on to this instead of making First Class another Origins movie and then just go back to where it left off means the franchise officially accepted the continuity Vaughn established. The current continuity errors are what people want to make of it because producers and directors tell them otherwise.

Mind you, Sony was in the same position. They made money from TASM2 and had like 3-4 projects announced.

In what way is the company that made the least grossing Spider-man movie (barely profited as well because marketing budget) with an overall downswing in studio-wide projects and was hacked to reveal the most embarrassing things about who's running them the same as the studio that made the most money (more than Disney!!!) the year DOFP (the highest grossing X-movie to date) released?

 

[Rorschach2012]

Lol just you wait, I've given alllll the reasons. Believe what you want until 2017 then we will talk

Multiverse incorporating the fox XMEN into the MCU is truly a horrible idea, could never work. So unnecessary when it's clear that they just need a clean start

 

[Rorschach2012]

Why would a true marvel fan ever want any segregation in the Marvel movies? It makes zero sense to me

 

[GuestStar2004]

We can argue this forever but you will see that I am right in time. Just wait for gambit and new mutants to fail and for new Spider Man to succeed. 2017 is a good call for the eventual announcement

Whats funny if you seem to have this believe gambit and new mutants will be out by 2017 for them to get desperate and make an announcement

No its gonna be way past 2018, if anything 2021 if the unlikely even happens since as i said FOX own the cards and will be in no rush to back down while they can still use them and see what happens

 

[Rorschach2012]

It's doubtful Gambit or New Mutants even get made. There is absolute silence buzz wise for those films. Why take the risk.... Fox can't even make a good F4 movie

 

[Rorschach2012]

I'm not always right but I am about this. It's wrong for the XMEN to be segregated like this and that's the bottom line. There is zero issue with a MCU reboot so long as the movies stay good, and they would because fox would be producing them. They'd get a muuuuuch needed boost from the MCU connection as well

 

[GuestStar2004]

It's doubtful Gambit or New Mutants even get made. There is absolute silence buzz wise for those films. Why take the risk.... Fox can't even make a good F4 movie

If X-Men: apocalypse,Deadpool and Wolverine 3 do well then there is no reason for FOX to feel desperate or even feel they can't keep going with these other projects and 2017 will be when wolverine 3 comes

 

[Rorschach2012]

Live in denial it does not bother me

 

[magneto23]

Truly a **** excuse, the worst. No imagination here... The XMEN have been hiding, they have always been secluded they are simply waiting for the right time to come out of the dark. Soooooo damn easy to explain. And the worst reason to not incorporate those characters into the mcu

Edit: do you know how easy it'd be for Professor x to mind wipe anyone that witnessed the XMEN or mutants? Come on just use your imagination. If the XMEN aren't ready to come out of hiding yet, then they can believably remain hidden

Plus with Civil War looming, that totally sets the stage for the mutant fear. The timing couldn't be better

A planet full of mutants hidden? That is insane. X-Men hiding while aliens invade? Insane. Hiding when Thanos shows up? Insane. It doesn't work. Square peg round hole.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Please hold on to your bs excuses. It'll happen , and the explanation will be fine, just requires a tiny bit of imagination

I'm not going to change anyone's mind so let's just talk when the deal goes down

 

[2kt09]

Why would a true marvel fan ever want any segregation in the Marvel movies? It makes zero sense to me

Because this isn't Spider-man where everything is basic/similar enough to merge universes via continuation OR reboot.
I'm talking about separate universes where characters cross over to either.
The mutant thing should be an ingrained reality not some Ant-Man/Inhuman nonsense.

 

[Mike Murdock]

So true
In time you will see that I am right about this.

And to set the record straight I am no MCU fanboy. I just like good movies. And I think it's wrong for the XMEN to be in their own universe, there is truly no reason for it. Why would any Marvel fan ever want that? Dofp was aite, better than some MCU films but there are plenty of MCU films that top that movie.

Well, I am a huge Marvel fan. I'd love to see them in a shared universe, but I don't think it's a net positive. Marvel got the ability to produce a Sony movie and immediately pushed back Black Panther and Captain Marvel. An X-Men movie will push them back even farther. And that's assuming they don't produce a New Mutants movie, a Deadpool movie, etc. If they do that, you can kiss half the movies Marvel makes goodbye. I like Fox keeping the X-Men because it creates more Marvel movies.

Would I like the two to be able to reference each other and be part of the same universe? Sure, it would be nice. But unlike the Fantastic Four, I feel the X-Men stuff stands on its own better. And, unlike Spider-Man, I think there's greater potential for spinoffs (ensuring they make at least a movie a year). Hell, I want them to be more ambitious. I want a Starjammers movie, a Longshot movie, a Dazzler movie, etc. While less likely, I know it has no shot if the rights revert.

Even Hugh Jackman wants to be in the MCU lol.

As you pointed out, Hugh Jackman is leaving, so his desire to be part of the MCU is less significant than you think.

They've got like one more XMEN movie with Sinister.

Selene, Nimrod, Mad Emperor D'Kann, the Brood

MCU reboot: fresh start, guaranteed more money, precedent exists for there to be dark movies in the MCU (TWS), literally NO DOWNSIDE

I think the downside is that they'll redo the movies Fox already did instead of making new ones. Do I think they'll do a better job? Yeah, I do. I think Dark Phoenix could certainly have been done better. But that doesn't mean they'll do new ideas. If you can convince me we'll see Ilyana Rasputin, Doug Ramsey, Danielle Moonstar, Deadpool, or Cable in the next eight years in the Marvel universe without delaying Dr. Strange 2, Black Panther 2, Captain Marvel 2, or the Inhumans then I will agree there's no downside. Until then, I'm skeptical.

 

[marvelrobbins]

If X-Men: apocalypse,Deadpool and Wolverine 3 do well then there is no reason for FOX to feel desperate or even feel they can't keep going with these other projects and 2017 will be when wolverine 3 comes

gambit is also likely coming in 2017.

Deadpool is also getting sequel talk already,and crazy to dismiss idea of another X-men film after fox has done 2 without wolverine.yeah jackman might appear in apocalypse but it would likely be cameo like first class.cameo doesn't ell films.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Because this isn't Spider-man where everything is basic/similar enough to merge universes via continuation OR reboot.
I'm talking about separate universes where characters cross over to either.
The mutant thing should be an ingrained reality not some Ant-Man/Inhuman nonsense.

Possibly the most foolish post I've seen today. Are you suggesting that the XMEN don't belong in the marvel universe? Wow ok....

Time to take a break from these wacky XMEN threads...