Let´s take things into perspective here...
Comic book movies are not B movies, no matter how much you want them to be. They can easily be made into one (hell, all movies can be turned into B movies quite easily), but they shouldn´t, because even the comic books are.
Let´s look at the comics for a minute, and this as nothing to do with being a fan or not.
What is the most interesting story, the Death of Gwen Stacy or the 1000th fight between Spider-Man and Venom?
What about KnightFall, or the 1000th fight between Batman and The Joker?
(if you go with the last option in both cases, i give up).
See, the most best and most interesting story is the one more adult, dramatic and complex, the one that actually makes the characters grow, so, why the hell don´t you (or anyone else, for that matter) want that on screen?
And how can a story with that deepth of complexity and seriousness, can be seen as a B movie?
It has nothing to do with budget or box office, it as to do with the characters, and how well they are translated to be big screen.
What is a superhero? The man behind the mask or the suit/powers?
(If you go with the last option, i will lose my faith in you).
A superhero is nothing more than a suit and a bunch of powers, it´s the man behind the mask that makes him who he is, that is the important stuff, to actually compreend and care for who he is and what he does.
Action, thrills, special effects, fights..that all that is inherent to the comic book genre, so, of course that will have it´s place, but an action scene is nothing if there isn´t a meaning to it.
IMO, the way comic books movies should be made (and that cames from me, as an amatuer movie director) is to be looked as "biographical movies".
Let me explain it better....
Look at it as we were all living in the future, and superheroes existed many years ago.
As any biographical, your primary goal is to make the audience understand the person and his actions, to get inside that person´s head, to know his goals and ambitions, his fears...
The exact same thing should be made about comic book movies, to make the audience understand the characters, might they be heroes or villains, to get inside their heads, to......(read my sig).
Mrh7448 said:
To me the problem is when they start changing the base stories. Like they did in the Hulk, they turned it into something way to complex with the genetic manipulation his father and all that crap.
My good man, i´m sorry to say but, if that is your problem with Hulk, you don´t get the character.
The movie might not have been perfect, but it was the closest any comic book movie came so far, because it understood the characters.
Hulk is about a man that changes into a physical manifestation of his own repressed feelings, and that is possible because of genetic manipulation by his father (in the comics, it was an accident).
Hulk is extremely complex, because it´s a very psychological story.