What kind of things do you think/would you like to see Joker do?

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  1. Comicfilmer

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    Joker has committed with some pretty crazy crimes and carried out some off-the-wall murders in his 60-some years in the comics. What kind of things do you think he will do or what would you like him to do in the sequel? :joker: I'd offer my own thoughts, but I'm not very imaginative right now.
     
  2. MaskedManJRK

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    He should be near a theater, and slaughter a whole group of people while singing "Smile, Darn Ya, Smile." :joker::up:
     
  3. GoldGoblin

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    People should be scared when he is in the room with them.Not be entertained by his comedy.We need to see him commit some gruesome crimes,show how psychotic,dangerous,he really is.
     
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    What kind of crimes/plots would a psychoticly gruesome carry out exactly?
     
  5. ToddIsDead

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    I want to see him murder people, and then just laugh about it. Just shoot someone in the face and laugh. And I don't want him to act like an ass clown like last time. Not a fan of the Nicholson portrale.
     
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    if he has a 'gang' or whatever you want to call it, they should be scared of him, terrified, he should have no real motives for his crimes, just he is completely psychotic. A possible team up with The Scarecrow wouldn't be too bad.
     
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    yeah, he should only be funny to himself, make the audience really hate him, no prancing around like Nicholson at all, that would be terrible :(
     
  8. Comicfilmer

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    I like the idea of Joker being a serial killer type of character but I just don't see how it would be worked into a plot. I mean, it'd be a little hard just to have him go around and kill random people every other scene. Shouldn't there be more to it?
     
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    I think audience can laugh at him, Joker's humor should be VERY sick and make you wonder if you need psychatric help because you're giggling at it.
     
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    ^Yes and if he does have his own men of thugs with him,they should be scared too,because he could even kill them sometimes without even a warning.Have him laugh when he commits a crime would be cool.

    Show his own men urinate in their pants when they are in his presense.:)
     
  11. chintai80

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    announcing who's he gonna kill first over hijacked radio signals. then doing it by poisoning or shooting them and stealing their ****.

    "...armed robbery, double homicide. Got a taste for theatrics..."
     
  12. Mr.E.Nygma

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    Joker should haunt Batman day and night, Batman would get crazy and tired of him like really mad and frustrated at him, and Joker's comes back with a simple laugh at Bats that just kill him morally
     
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    Kill Rachel.
     
  14. Two-Face

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    Wow nothing knew.
     
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    well, he could kill rachel dawes, and whatever female character is linked to gordon- or gordon's wife, it could basically be cleverly and brutally killing people close to batman and gordon- to wound them personally. nothing random about that. endless possibilities- capture morgan freeman's character (sorry end of a long work day), capture and injure alfred, you name it. i say substitute alfred for gordon's daughter like in killing joke and have joker shoot alfred in the spine.
     
  16. Sandman*

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    Some of you YET again are getting carried away with Joker

    Have some of you read a comic book charcter with the joker in it??

    homicidal Maniac?Yes Serial killer ?NO

    Hes goal is not to kill every single person in gotham, he has a grander scheme most the time
     
  17. Mr. Socko

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    The Joker kills out of enjoyment and usually has a reason unless he's just having an off day. The Joker should be dark and evil. A crazy Homicidal maniac, lets have him kill off a cue character to drive him further. If he doesn't kill Rachel then atleast go straight to him shooting Barbera Gordon, hey, we don't need to see her as Batgirl so we can skip that part. I just saw the fan film Patient J a few minutes ago and I'm absolutely hooked on it right now. Watching it was like chugging down a cup of coffee on a very tiring morning, it brightens you up. The Joker is sadistic and evil, but like most villians he thinks he is doing the right thing. He believes he kills others for the best, he think they're lives are useless and don't matter much anyway. The Batman is the reason he goes on and truely vise versa. It's criminal scum like the Joker that made Batman(one of my favorite lines). IMO, we can't take the Joker over the edge as much as many are saying. He shouldn't just go on a crazy killing spree for absolutely no reason at all, it'll seem like Nolan and Goyer can't think of anything so the plot is The Joker killings everyone in sight. The Joker's jokes are only funny to him; very crude, sick, and evil humor that he loves. I think it would help alot if they give him a back story with him being a normal man who's pregnant wife is killed and that drives him halfway insane. He becomes a hitman and when he falls into the vat of chemicals, thats when he really goes off the bridge. He just can't take it anymore.

    He blames Batman for what has happened to him and think it's all his fault. And here's what I'd like to see happen. The Joker goes after his wife and unborn child's killer and he goes to murder him. After murdering him The Joker flees away in his car but is then chased by the Gotham Police Department. The Joker tries to get away from the comics and runs into a chemical factory and you know the rest. He comes out disgusted with the look but goes to mad and insane that all he can do is laugh at it, he then inevitably becomes Mr. J. I don't want henchmen with the Joker this time around. They should go for a totally different approach this time. Another scene I'd love to see is Joker crashing a rich Gotham black and white ball wearing a spiffy tux. The Joker wants to be around a crowd, he wants to be known. Whenever he's locked away thats when he seems like creepy thin man, he's soft talking but yet you can just sense evil all throughout him. In public, The Joker is scary, not by looks but just by him being him. He's really like the maniacs in real life but with green hair, red lips, and the pale chalk skin. I don't know how else to put it at the moment.
     
  18. Beelze

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    While I didn't have much against Katie Holmes, I think The Joker should kill her.
     
  19. HughJackFan420

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    i wanna see him stay alive for a few sequels and die after killing Robin
     
  20. Zaphod

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    I want the Joker's crimes to be nonsensical and bozzare, while at the same time being sadistic and crazed.

    • The Joker has kidnapped someone. Someone of importance to the movie, not just any old-nobody. Say...Harvey Dent or Rachal Dawes, or someone of equal intergrity. He has them, tied up, dangling just above a large pool of water. In this pool, is a shark. But, the water is actually atrophine, or something else equally nasty, and the shark...is dead. It's just floating their, lifeless, on the surface. The Joker proceeds to descend his wailing but confused victim into the pool, until he becomes frustrated at the sharks less-than-stiring performance, and simply attempts to drown the victim by hand in the atrophine.
    • Human pinyata. Did I spell that right? It doesn't matter, anyway...the Joker has strung someone up like a pinyata. That means, they are in an 'all-fours' position, dangling (again) up in mid air, by means of a harness. They are bound, gagged, and typically unable to escape their fate, aswell as being near-butt naked and wearing a large nappy (this would be a guy victim). Or something equally degrading and humiliating. The Joker, feeling his sweetooth then proceeds to beat the poor gentleman to death with a baseball bat. Or he lets a kid do it at his command. Either way, messy stuff.
    These are the sort of crimes the Joker should commit, when he's not off inciting huge gangwars in Gotham.

    Thoughts?
     
  21. Dark Knight

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    well not to sick.....but as for the storyline and narrative is concerned. He is going to have to either kidnap or perhaps murder Rachel and or do the same to Gordon or Dents wife. I would love to see the climactic battle be held in the Funhouse ala The Killing Joke.....that would awesome!
     
  22. Yellow Cyclone

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    THAT is near PERFECT



    you seriously nailed it.....thats what the joker would do....go through this elaborate setup and make the audience wonder "wtf its not going to work" then just get his own hands dirty and kill the victim slowly just because of the "humor" in the situation to him

    kudos:up: :up:
     
  23. The Question

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    A scene I've always had in mind for The Joker:


    It's a theater. The production is Pagliache. However, instead of the usual actors, The Joker walks on stage. Now, everyone thinks he's just part of the show. He then takes out a gas mask and a remote control. He puts on the mask, and presses a button on the remote. An invisible gas eneters the room. The people in the audiance start laughing uncontrolably for several seconds, flairling and looking as if they're in incredible pain. And then they all die. Then, The Joker preforms the porter monologue from McBeth in it's entirety. He finishes, and takes a bow. When no one laughs (since they're all dead), he just walks off mumbling "everyone's a critic". As he walks off, we see the bodies of the actors backstage strewn on the floor.
     
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    Haha, I like it. I dont know if its right for the film (dont know if it would fit in the story and such), but I do like it.

    I think Joker needs a grand plan in this film. Perhaps not at first, but he should develop one. It shouldn't be "poison all of Gotham" either, that's been done to death. One idea that could tie in well to the subplot of the other villains is that he wants to start a mob war. We've got three mobster type villains rumored for this sequel (Maroni, Black Mask, Cobblepot), so wouldn't it be great if Joker was trying to stir stuff up between Maroni's and Sionis's gangs to cause a huge city-wide gang war. Perhaps this could take place early on, with Batman preventing Joker from screwing up an arms deal and thus messing up Joker's plan. Then Joker takes a shine to Batman and his new goal becomes to ruin Batman's life. From there on he does whatever he can to hurt Batman and his allies, including showing up at Harvey Dent's house on christmas eve to try to kill him (ala The Long Halloween).

    I just realized something funny, btw. Everyone here wants Joker to kill Rachel, and i'm all for that, but there's a question I have. What would be his motivation? the logical answer would seem to be, to hurt Batman. But wait a minute... Rachel is Bruce Wayne's childhood friend, and Joker should NOT know Batman's identity. Now, of course i know Joker doesn't specifically need motivation to kill, but i'd have to assume he has a reason for targeting this one specific person, otherwise it's far too coincidental. Besides, her death would be a lot more meaningful if it was intended specifically to hurt Batman, as opposed to her just being one of his many victims because she was in the wrong place at the wrong time. So really, i'm just trying to think of a way in which Joker could know that Rachel's death would hurt Batman, but without him knowing his identity. With Gilda Dent rumored for the sequel I dont think Dent could be involved with her... so I dont know.
     
  25. The Question

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    Well, mabey since Rachel is a good friend of Gordon and probably will be a good friend of Harvey Dent, and is a well known figure in Gotham, he chooses her simply because it will spread more fear and despair. Look at her. She's nice, charitable, and only wants to help her comunity. Plus, she's a high ranking official in city government. Not the type of person who you'd expect to be brutally murdered. So, when she is, Gotham's citizens are in a panic.
     

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