What makes Clark so special...and above the rest?

[Herolee10]

Hi...although this is my first new thread on this board...I've been following what's been going on these threads..and I was just wondering about something....as I keep thinking about each season...particularly starting from season 6....it makes me wonder...what makes Clark...at least in the eyes of the martian manhunter and jor el...so special??...I mean what makes them think that he can become humanity's savior and all?...because of his powers??...We all know who clark is and that he becomes superman but in this world superman doesn't exist...so no one really knows who he'll become.....and clearly there are other beings on this planet with powers that could save people...so why is clark deemed earth's last hope...especially after they've introduced characters like raya...and now supergirl...they're both kryptonian....can't they be the ones to save humanity instead?...what makes clark so damn special that he's the only human that could do this task....if i'm not mistaken martian manhunter is almost as strong as superman so couldn't he do it instead?...they make it seem like that once he's done with his training he'll emerge as a "super krytponian" no pun intended....that he'll be ALL THAT..but yea it just really hurts my head thinking about it sometimes

 

[Justice Bringer]

What made Clark special is that he was a super-powered alien who chose to embrace humanity to eventually become a superhero.

Clark was special and unique up until this season where things could get complex.

Despite Supergirl, who is a more powerful super-being, being raised on Krypton; its obvious Kara will eventually embrace humanity just as Clark did and become a protector of Earth.

What makes things tricky is you now have a Superman and Superwoman in the same age range growing up together on the same level; it takes away alot of what makes Superman special and unique when he has to share his journey with his female counterpart.

Solution? Put her back in stasis or kill her.

 

[Zorex]

Well, firstly, Clark's not human. But I'm sure that was just a word choice error.

Secondly, I see it (or maybe just like to think of it) as not solely a messianic mission that all these people are pushing on him, it's more so his parents' original intentions. Purpose. Kal-El could have easily died with the rest of the planet Krypton, but his mother and father sent him, and him alone (well, that's what the story used to be, I guess...) to Earth, to give so many others the same chance that he was given, with the great powers he would gain naturally. It's not the simple matter of sending him to Earth to put him to work saving it, as if the thought of having a life never crossed their mind. He was a baby whose parents would rather he get a good, fighting chance, and be able to appropriately use that gift, and others, to help prevent a repeat of what resulted in the death of his own race.

 

[triplet]

 

[Whiteflag]

lol Exactly!

 

[Lane & Kent]

What made Clark special is that he was a super-powered alien who chose to embrace humanity to eventually become a superhero.

Clark was special and unique up until this season where things could get complex.

Despite Supergirl, who is a more powerful super-being, being raised on Krypton; its obvious Kara will eventually embrace humanity just as Clark did and become a protector of Earth.

What makes things tricky is you now have a Superman and Superwoman in the same age range growing up together on the same level; it takes away alot of what makes Superman special and unique when he has to share his journey with his female counterpart.

Solution? Put her back in stasis or kill her.

Agreed!!!

 

[mellyM]

What made Clark special is that he was a super-powered alien who chose to embrace humanity to eventually become a superhero.

Clark was special and unique up until this season where things could get complex.

Despite Supergirl, who is a more powerful super-being, being raised on Krypton; its obvious Kara will eventually embrace humanity just as Clark did and become a protector of Earth.

What makes things tricky is you now have a Superman and Superwoman in the same age range growing up together on the same level; it takes away alot of what makes Superman special and unique when he has to share his journey with his female counterpart.

Solution? Put her back in stasis or kill her.

He's still unique, he was raised on earth, she wasn't. He has a much greater understanding and appreciation of humanity that she can never really share. THATS what really makes him Superman, there are a lot of super-powered beings in the comic universe, Superman has always been the alien more human than humans themselves. I don't think Kara can take that away.

 

[manofsteel4life]

He's still unique, he was raised on earth, she wasn't. He has a much greater understanding and appreciation of humanity that she can never really share. THATS what really makes him Superman, there are a lot of super-powered beings in the comic universe, Superman has always been the alien more human than humans themselves. I don't think Kara can take that away.

good point

 

[Super_Ludacris]

What made Clark special is that he was a super-powered alien who chose to embrace humanity to eventually become a superhero.

Clark was special and unique up until this season where things could get complex.

Despite Supergirl, who is a more powerful super-being, being raised on Krypton; its obvious Kara will eventually embrace humanity just as Clark did and become a protector of Earth.

What makes things tricky is you now have a Superman and Superwoman in the same age range growing up together on the same level; it takes away alot of what makes Superman special and unique when he has to share his journey with his female counterpart.

Solution? Put her back in stasis or kill her.

hmmm that's what the kids on the internets call a major plot hole (sic)

 

[triplet]

He's still unique, he was raised on earth, she wasn't. He has a much greater understanding and appreciation of humanity that she can never really share. THATS what really makes him Superman, there are a lot of super-powered beings in the comic universe, Superman has always been the alien more human than humans themselves. I don't think Kara can take that away.

Quoted for Truth.



It is ironic, that in the DC Universe that the two most humane heroes aren't even human, they're aliens who can fly. (J'onn and Clark)

 

[Justice Bringer]

He's still unique, he was raised on earth, she wasn't. He has a much greater understanding and appreciation of humanity that she can never really share. THATS what really makes him Superman, there are a lot of super-powered beings in the comic universe, Superman has always been the alien more human than humans themselves. I don't think Kara can take that away.

To the audience, yes I agree; especially since we've been familiar to Clark for six years.

However, to Metropolis, years from now if they appear in the tights and Kara's been on Earth ever since...its just pretty much Superman and Superwoman. With Kara embracing the values of humanity and protecting Earth there wouldnt be much to differenciate her from Superman by then; at least to the general public.

They've already taken away the idea of Superman being the first superhero in this universe to the public; Green Arrow has already made a name for himself. With Kara growing up with Clark, it also takes away alot of the originality and uniqueness of Superman as perceived by the people of the world.

 

[04nbod]

He's still unique, he was raised on earth, she wasn't. He has a much greater understanding and appreciation of humanity that she can never really share. THATS what really makes him Superman, there are a lot of super-powered beings in the comic universe, Superman has always been the alien more human than humans themselves. I don't think Kara can take that away.

exactly.

i find too much 'specialness' is placed on him because he was the first superhero in comic history- there are a few heroes that could hold their own against him and are more interesting characters. However if we are going by the plot of why he is special rather than comic politics then Everything melly says is spot on.

 

[mellyM]

To the audience, yes I agree; especially since we've been familiar to Clark for six years.

However, to Metropolis, years from now if they appear in the tights and Kara's been on Earth ever since...its just pretty much Superman and Superwoman. With Kara embracing the values of humanity and protecting Earth there wouldnt be much to differenciate her from Superman by then; at least to the general public.

They've already taken away the idea of Superman being the first superhero in this universe to the public; Green Arrow has already made a name for himself. With Kara growing up with Clark, it also takes away alot of the originality and uniqueness of Superman as perceived by the people of the world.

Shes hardly growing up with him, he;s very close to making the next big step and she just got here, he's been on earth since he was 3 yrs old, and was raised by two loving humans. I'm really not sure how that puts her in the same league. But I tend to think Superman is more than just his powers. First or only, he's still the only Superman, and lots of other heroes exist in the comics, and they don't detract from him, so I'm not really understanding why Kara has to. I'm not thrilled she's there, but I can't be dead set against anything until I actually see it, its only fair. And aside from that, I think its best to deal with the context of the show anyway, and we don't know how Kara feels about this planet or her role in protecting it, and we don't know exactly what her role will be in the future.

 

[04nbod]

They've already taken away the idea of Superman being the first superhero in this universe to the public; Green Arrow has already made a name for himself. With Kara growing up with Clark, it also takes away alot of the originality and uniqueness of Superman as perceived by the people of the world.

Thats insulting to superman as a character to think his circumstances make him special rather than his character and his qualities that make him a superhero. He can still be someone people look up to in morality and stature without being 'the first'

 

[Justice Bringer]

Shes hardly growing up with him, he;s very close to making the next big step and she just got here, he's been on earth since he was 3 yrs old, and was raised by two loving humans. I'm really not sure how that puts her in the same league.

Just thinking ahead if they plan to keep her. He still has several years ahead of him before he becomes Superman; hes only 19/20. Thats more than enough time for Kara to develop a similar love for humanity; which is inevitable.

Thats insulting to superman as a character to think his circumstances make him special rather than his character and his qualities that make him a superhero. He can still be someone people look up to in morality and stature without being 'the first'

I didnt say 'the first' was the only aspect that made the character unique. The morality aspect is good too; as well as the super-powered part... but those are both things that Kara or Superwoman could easily share by then if she continued to live on Earth for all these years.

I dont have a problem with the concept of Supergirl in general in the comics or whatnot; but having her appear at this point in time; midway through Clark's own journey years before the cape.. isnt the right context to use the character.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

This Kara will die in this universe....

 

[mellyM]

Just thinking ahead if they plan to keep her. He still has several years ahead of him before he becomes Superman; hes only 19/20. Thats more than enough time for Kara to develop a similar love for humanity; which is inevitable.



I didnt say 'the first' was the only aspect that made the character unique. The morality aspect is good too; as well as the super-powered part... but those are both things that Kara or Superwoman could easily share by then if she continued to live on Earth for all these years.

We haven't seen the end yet, for all we know Clark could decide to wear the cape by series end. Regardless, I still say Supergirl is in no way equal to Superman I don't care how soon she's here.

 

[Justice Bringer]

At the age of 20 wear the tights? I think if anything he'll go off to train for several years instead with Jor-El and then become Superman.

Though I'm starting to wonder whether Kara already received the same training from her 20 years on Krypton :|

We'll see how that turns out.

I still obviously think the character of Superman in general is far superior to Supergirl in every way; but.... in Smallville's case; her appearance at this point in time is just setting up Clark to be marginalized in the future.

 

[avidreader]

It's not the powers that make Clark Super.

 

[AgentPat]

Kudos to Zorex for being the only person in this thread to address the actual question.

Herolee10, what I think it comes down to in SV lore is the notion that Kal-El has a destiny. Exactly what that destiny is as understood by Clark's Kryptonian family and friends hasn't been fully elaborated on, but they all seem to want to help get him there, almost as if it was part of a mission or duty. Maybe it's as simple as his family's wishes as Zorex speculated, or it could be part of the rite of passage tradition that Kryptonians apparently undergo. Who knows? What is obvious however is that Clark's destiny may or may not be exactly what Jor-El and other Kryptonians think it is - or want it to be. As an audience, we know what he becomes, and that makes him special to us. How much his actual future matches his intended destiny as somehow predetermined when he was a baby has yet to be acknowledged, however.

That's where all the fun is, because Clark is extremely bullheaded. I like him that way LOL. But his destiny will be what HE makes it, not what other people want it to be. t:

 

[04nbod]

This Kara will die in this universe....

apparantly she will still be around if there is a season 8 so thats a bit premature. If they do get rid just send her to the legion. Although i think that might be a bit too sci fi for smallville

 

[Super_Ludacris]

I think they could. This show has gotten rid of new additions after a season before (Jason, Whitney, Brainiac....Green Arrow was a regular guest but is gone now, sans for maybe an episode this season). I could see them playing out a situation where Clark's time with her and her dying is pivitol to his journey becoming Superman. Besides they have killed her in the comics before...

But we'll see

 

[bootspark]

Gough/Millar will NOT kill Supergirl. They brought her on the show to take over for Clark when Welling leaves after this season. They want to spin her off on her own show.

 

[COMPO]

I think they could. This show has gotten rid of new additions after a season before (Jason, Whitney, Brainiac....Green Arrow was a regular guest but is gone now, sans for maybe an episode this season). I could see them playing out a situation where Clark's time with her and her dying is pivitol to his journey becoming Superman. Besides they have killed her in the comics before...

But we'll see

I like this idea. I'd like it that she died saving Clark in away.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Gough/Millar will NOT kill Supergirl. They brought her on the show to take over for Clark when Welling leaves after this season. They want to spin her off on her own show.

Man, no one's gonna watch that...