Sequels What next for Peter and MJ?

[Hectorminator]

MJ leaves to pursue acting off screen and doesn't return till the 6th film where they finally work things out and get married.

4th film- Gwen Stacy and Peter get together

5th film- Death of Gwen Stacy

This is exactly what needs to happen. Although not having MJ in the films until the last one might be a little more difficult. I mean, that if Peter goes out with Gwen and she dies in the 5th one, then having MJ just SHOW UP in the sixth one will make her look bad, and make Pete look like he's on the rebound.

You could have MJ just date someone else and kind of stay in Pete's circle of friends, so that he has to keep seeing his true love be happy with someone else. Like a Spider-Man 2 vibe. She could either go back out with John Jameson, or maybe even Flash Thompson, who's matured since High School and is actually nice to Pete and a huge fan of Spidey. And then of course, she still really loves Pete and asks him to marry her in the sixth one, right at the end.

 

[Hectorminator]

Yeah but you have to show how they break up in the first place so you'd need a good 30 minutes of MJ... also I don't know if Lizard is the perfect villain to go along with a break up... SM3 was the perfect time to do it... it can still be done... but yeah that only seems logical at this point... I would consider not having MJ in SM5 entirely.

The Lizard is the PERFECT villain to cause Spidey and MJ breaking up. Here's how:

You have some time pass since the last movie and Pete and MJ aren't technically all the way back together. The ending of the last movie was kinda left open, they didn't seem too happy to be dancing together.

So MJ says to Pete that she really DOES care about him and can't keep worrying about him dying or getting seriously hurt as Spider-Man. She wants to meet one night to talk over dinner about their relationship or something. Pete is totally willing to do it, he loves MJ and wants to work things out, and he tells her this over the phone, but he's also HONEST and tells her that he has to go see Doc Conners (Pete's his lab assistant) that night because Conners wanted to tell him something, but Peter is going straight to dinner right afterward. They agree to meet at eight.

Pete goes to see Conners, who's in a competition for a huge grant with another fellow professor, Adrian Toomes. Toomes, of course, is a scumbag, and sabotages Conner's formula (to grow back human limbs) and Conners doesn't know. So when Peter shows up Conners is excited to see him and tells him that his formula will work and is going to show him. Pete asks him to reconsider (thinking about what happened last time a scientist he knew didn't wait to get proper human trials, The Green Goblin happened), but Conners is convinced it'll work. So it does for about five minutes and then Conners transforms at night, in front of Peter and no one else.

Obviously Spider-Man has to try to help Conners and as he's on the school roof putting his mask on, he looks up at the big campus clock--8 o' clock. He missed his date, but he had to, because your mentors don't turn into giant savage lizards every day. Plus, Spidey gets the crap beat outta him, and barely survives the fight long enough to get back to his apartment and pass out for the whole night.

That's how the Lizard lends himself to a great story involving Peter and MJ breaking up.

 

[Hectorminator]

I say go with marriage. It just cheapens what has come before to break them off to delay the inevitable and out of character for them. Or if they just make her window dressing (which at the end of the day is what the fanboys really want) the movies will become a lot duller and stand apart (unfavorably) to Raimi's previous ones.

I think a LOT of crap that happened in Spider-Man 3 was ALREADY out of character, and if they go with marriage right now, it would seem even more out of character considering what happened in part 3. They kind of ended of bad terms, keep that going and have them date other people, take some more time to realize they really love each other, and then get back together in part 6, the last movie in the series.

Plus MJ won't be kidnapped at the end again.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Oh so we are going to play the missed date angle again? I thought we already covered that in SM2... plus I think MJ would be understanding that Peter had to miss the date since his professor just became a giant 7 foot Lizard terrorizing the city... we are past all of that. Peter missing the date isn't a valid excuse for breaking up. Just make Peter hook up with Gwen. Its not that hard... maybe in the beginning MJ needs some time to cool off... Peter is obsessed with completing his senior thesis in nanophysics or quantum physics or something, while doing research for Conners along with Gwen. MJ is busy with her acting gig as usual. The script writes itself.

 

[Immortalfire]

They get married and convert to Jewism

 

[Blader5489]

I think a LOT of crap that happened in Spider-Man 3 was ALREADY out of character, and if they go with marriage right now, it would seem even more out of character considering what happened in part 3. They kind of ended of bad terms, keep that going and have them date other people, take some more time to realize they really love each other, and then get back together in part 6, the last movie in the series.

Plus MJ won't be kidnapped at the end again.

We must have watched two different movies.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Yeah that too... just seemed like the couple can seemingly get over anything at this point... that's why the only way to break them up is an affair.

 

[Visionary]

Peter Parker won't put his pecker in any particular piece of panties.

 

[Arcturus]

Peter and MJ should finally wed.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Peter Parker won't put his pecker in any particular piece of panties.

THen it becomes rather boring the next trilogy for me at least if we constantly have to have MJ alone... I mean since other "love interests" wouldn't actually be love interests... besides I don't think they'll make a direct sequel to SM3... I think it will definitely be an extension... but I don't think MJ/Peter will be madly in love from the start... they'll still be together but more distant. Plus I am not sure all the same characters will return other than Aunt May and Jameson (and Conners if they use Lizard ofcourse). They should just start from scratch.

 

[Jick]

"Peter and MJ should finally wed"

but I also liked that idea of Mysterio kidnapping MJ.
he could be in the 5th movie and do this to Spidey, then make mind games with him.

 

[Blader5489]

Yeah that too... just seemed like the couple can seemingly get over anything at this point... that's why the only way to break them up is an affair.

Yeah, that's not going to happen.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Mysterio kidnapping MJ again? I seriously can't take more of that... even if its SM6... they need to get out of that... SM3 just made me vomit when I saw that story play out yet again...

 

[FaT_tONle]

Yeah, that's not going to happen.

Again... not really an affair... just hooking up... can't you people assume this sort of stuff...

 

[Jick]

Mysterio kidnapping MJ again? I seriously can't take more of that... even if its SM6... they need to get out of that... SM3 just made me vomit when I saw that story play out yet again...

it's not just kidnap like the other's did.
he could do something like Saw did in Saw 2 with the policeman's kid.
kept MJ "safe" in some place then Mysterio starts playing with SM.
...and to be honest, I certainly wouldn't mind less MJ in the movie.

 

[FaT_tONle]

I didn't see any of the Saw films... but instead of MJ being kidnapped... it should be Gwen or someone else... I am tired of MJ as the damsel in distress... I mean since I WOULD THINK Lizard won't be kidnapping any females (no need for it anyway)... you can bypass the whole damsel in distress in the fourth one...

Another idea that just came to me... in the fifth one... maybe have Mysterio set up SM for Gwen Stacy's murder... that would be bloody brilliant... I don't know make it like a high wire act or public stunt for kicks where SM is saving the girl or something in front of a huge audience... then Mysterio and his illusions screw Spiderman up and he drops Gwen or something... then Captain Stacy and the city turn against Spidey... throw Scorpion in there as well... would make for a great film.

 

[Jick]

Another idea that just came to me... in the fifth one... maybe have Mysterio set up SM for Gwen Stacy's murder... that would be bloody brilliant... I don't know make it like a high wire act or public stunt for kicks where SM is saving the girl or something in front of a huge audience... then Mysterio and his illusions screw Spiderman up and he drops Gwen or something... then Captain Stacy and the city turn against Spidey... throw Scorpion in there as well... would make for a great film.

I said almost exactly this in another board. this is a great idea, imo.
the Mysterio illusion is the key I wasn't seeing for this kind of thing.

 

[FaT_tONle]

All we'd need at that point is Bruce Cambell back as Mysterio... hell they should just do SM4/5 back to back and end it there... so we don't have to debate who the villain should be in SM6

 

[Visionary]

I didn't see any of the Saw films... but instead of MJ being kidnapped... it should be Gwen or someone else... I am tired of MJ as the damsel in distress...

I don't want to see the damsel-in-distress at all, and no kidnapping of any kind.

 

[DACrowe]

I think a LOT of crap that happened in Spider-Man 3 was ALREADY out of character, and if they go with marriage right now, it would seem even more out of character considering what happened in part 3. They kind of ended of bad terms, keep that going and have them date other people, take some more time to realize they really love each other, and then get back together in part 6, the last movie in the series.

Plus MJ won't be kidnapped at the end again.

1. Who said if she is in the movie she has to get kidnapped?

2. You are intentionally trying to break them up.

3. Every single audience member they would break them up just to prolongue the movie franchise and in a franchise that is slowing down, you don't want to piss audiences off.

4. What would making Gwen window dressing piece of ass for SM4/5 do for the movies. Which again is all fanboys want but because Dunst gives bad interviews and doesn't do maxim quality pin ups they want the character killed or written off, completely ignoring the story values framed by the previous three films.

 

[Hectorminator]

Oh so we are going to play the missed date angle again? I thought we already covered that in SM2... plus I think MJ would be understanding that Peter had to miss the date since his professor just became a giant 7 foot Lizard terrorizing the city... we are past all of that. Peter missing the date isn't a valid excuse for breaking up. Just make Peter hook up with Gwen. Its not that hard... maybe in the beginning MJ needs some time to cool off... Peter is obsessed with completing his senior thesis in nanophysics or quantum physics or something, while doing research for Conners along with Gwen. MJ is busy with her acting gig as usual. The script writes itself.

it wouldn't be just "missing a date" but more like Peter and MJ's last chance to work their relationship out. She gives him one last shot. Or maybe should could be leaving to LA the next morning.

And even if she would understand that Peter had to bail on her to save his professor who just turned into a giant Lizard, the point is that she doesn't wanna be the girl waiting at home for news of her boyfriend's death. Spider-Man gets MESSED UP, like bloody and savagely beaten and almost dies, and she either hears about it or sees news footage. So she tells Peter that she doesn't wanna be number two to his being Spidey, but in reality she doesn't wanna have to lose him to his dangerous profession.

 

[Hectorminator]

We must have watched two different movies.

No, Peter and MJ weren't really 100% together at the end of it. I'm not even sure they explicitly stated that they got back together, it could have just been Peter coming to say he was sorry for hitting her when he was under the influence of the suit, or maybe they were just dancing to be nice with one another after they lost their best friend, Harry.

Considering where they were at the beginning of the movie, and where they were at the end of it, I would say they ended on bad terms, not good terms, bad terms. Like, they were friendly with one another, so that could be considered "good terms", but it felt like they broke up, bad terms.

There was no dialogue, so the scene can be left up to interpretation, mine being that they weren't going to be running off to any chapel any time soon.

 

[Hectorminator]

1. Who said if she is in the movie she has to get kidnapped?

2. You are intentionally trying to break them up.

3. Every single audience member they would break them up just to prolongue the movie franchise and in a franchise that is slowing down, you don't want to piss audiences off.

4. What would making Gwen window dressing piece of ass for SM4/5 do for the movies. Which again is all fanboys want but because Dunst gives bad interviews and doesn't do maxim quality pin ups they want the character killed or written off, completely ignoring the story values framed by the previous three films.

1. If MJ remains the girlfriend in the next movie, she has like a 80% chance of being kidnapped by the villain.

2.-4. I couldn't understand anything else you wrote, bro, can you try it again? I'd be happy to debate, but I didn't know what you were trying to say. Thanks, man.

 

[OcStat]

i do think the idea mego joe had is the best one i think.

peter is going to have to fail, horribly, sometime in the movies, like in the comic. death of gwen has to be where it happens. it cant be mary ajen dying, because then he ends up with gwen. and you cant have peter be with gwen for good, because he will always feel bad about using her like he did in sm3...i mean, i would at least, if that was me. the movies have set up their on continuity to be sure, and ive never had a problem with that notion, but peter and mary jane not getting married is way too big of a change and im sure they know that.

 

[Visionary]

I'd like to see them making love on the ceiling in Spider-Man 4.