What The Hell Happened To Christianity?

Interesting article. Religion having a firm hold in society and even governing society is nothing new to many, many cultures. Christianity, for example, was the true government for centuries in England especially during the Middle Ages. The writers are correct however, it is one thing to follow and love your religion it's another thing to hate others who don't or force it on them.
 
Memphis Slim is celldog? And I was so sure he was dcbmp :(.
 
America is corrupt,this is why the Vatican has all but left the USA.This is why Americans want to have more from Christanity,because they think that..knowing more or something new..will give them purpose in a world that hates them,not the religion.
 
Canadian Rider said:
It seems people like to speak about the various political structures of Christianity all the time ... I always suggest that people read the scriptures for themselves. Jesus was a radical in his day talking about the equality of women and treating others with love and respect. The issue I have with the article is that it is from an american point of view and thus talks more about politics and the political fallout of mixing christianity (or any religion) and politics. You want a really scary Christian message - live honestly and don't be a hypocrite = sin is sin. No sin is greater or leser. Jesus clearly indicated that we needed to deal with it. He loved everyone he met, but as suggested in the comments on the article, he came saying that you needed to follow him. Follow him and be honest. That is a very scary message for today.


AMEN to that! Finally someone who stands on The Rock of Salvation!
 
kainedamo said:
That isn't true at all. There are actual historical records that a man named Jesus Christ existed.

Thank you for stating the truth. I'm a Christian and have to say that this statement brings honor to God. Thank you for stating this. Truth is Truth and you have stated that.
 
raybia said:
Interesting.

You know, it was also once thought that it was foolish and futile to try to proof that the earth was round and that man could ever fly or that it was possible to leave the gravity of the earth and travel in space.

The difference is the shape of the Earth can be objectively measure, the concept of God cannot. There is no way determine if God exist or not or even to understand what that concept entails. It be like ant trying to a human being.

How you do know you understand God at all? How do you know the gods of Hinduism don't? You don't and neither do I. You could be completely wrong and just be pissing God off with your attempts to please him or you could be completely right. Who knows? People trying to understand God is like fruit flies trying to understand advanced nuclear physics, its ultimately fultile.

There problem with the ME (same with Europe in the Dark ages) is that almost everyone is obessed over want God wants that spend no time worrying about their life and using their natural human talents to improve their society. This is why the renaissances was such a great boon to Europe, people stoped focusing on their enegry on obessing on what God wants and spent some of their time focusing on using and celebrating human talents to improve their society. I say lets focus on our own lives and stop guessing what God wants.
 
This is just problem in the US, in Canada we don't link Christinaity with the Tories, so its not like this is some international problem with Christianuty, its just that in the US, Christianity has somewhat been co-oped by the GOP.
 
The Overlord said:
This is just problem in the US, in Canada we don't link Christinaity with the Tories, so its not like this is some international problem with Christianuty, its just that in the US, Christianity has somewhat been co-oped by the GOP.

Christianity isn't the problem. It is the solution. Sin is everyone's problem! We're human that's our born nature. Having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is the solution to all problems. Please don't insult the One that gives you every breath you breathe. ThanK Smile b/c God loves you! :whatever:
 
raybia said:
Who is right?

Its not a matter of who is right.

Its a matter of who I choose to believe is right.

Just like you have the freedom to choose.


That's just a bunch of double talk and you know it. You don't have an answer. If your eternal soul's destination hinges on what or who you put your faith in, it matters very much who is right!!

Is it Muhammad & Allah or is it Jesus? It can't be both because they contradict each other strongly. And the bible tells us what Jesus said and how He lived. The Koran does not.
 
Did he not say before that Jesus IS in the Koran? Or did you conveniently miss that?
 
Taiwarriorz21 said:
Christianity isn't the problem. It is the solution. Sin is everyone's problem! We're human that's our born nature. Having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is the solution to all problems. Please don't insult the One that gives you every breath you breathe. ThanK Smile b/c God loves you! :whatever:

I didn't say Christinaity was the problem Einstein, I said the GOP co-opting Christianity for their ends is the problem. Pay attention!

The GOP have tried to turn Christianity to something completely different for their own selfish ends (in the GOP version of Christianity, I guess Jesus believes poor people are lazy and never helps them.) Why do you think its okay for the GOP co-opt Christinaity?
 
Taiwarriorz21 said:
Thank you for stating the truth. I'm a Christian and have to say that this statement brings honor to God. Thank you for stating this. Truth is Truth and you have stated that.
Well then you really need to pick up a book called "You Are Being Lied To" and turn to page 272. All the mentions of him are widely known to be forgeries by a man named Josephus, the early Christian community, the Vatican (the guys who sanctioned the sales of so many "splinters from the Cross of Christ" that the cross would've had to've been like 70 or 80 feet tall and as wide as 6 elephants standing side by side :o).
 
Wilhelm-Scream said:
Well then you really need to pick up a book called "You Are Being Lied To" and turn to page 272. All the mentions of him are widely known to be forgeries by a man named Josephus, the early Christian community, the Vatican (the guys who sanctioned the sales of so many "splinters from the Cross of Christ" that the cross would've had to've been like 70 or 80 feet tall and as wide as 6 elephants standing side by side :o).
You post so spontaneously:huh:
 
Hades said:
You post so spontaneously:huh:
Tonight is kind of A neat trial run for something I've wondered about...if something super weird, scary, dramatic and traumatic were to be happening to me, would I ever, ever make a thread about it in mid-event? :huh:

And the answer is no. :):up:
I'm sitting here talking about other things to try and stay sane.
So I don't know if I believe all those "My friend downstairs is gonna kill himself." or "I think there's a man lurking in my BACKYARD WITH A KNIFE" THREADS. :o
 
Wilhelm-Scream said:
Tonight is kind of A neat trial run for something I've wondered about...if something super weird, scary, dramatic and traumatic were to be happening to me, would I ever, ever make a thread about it in mid-event? :huh:

And the answer is no. :):up:
I'm sitting here talking about other things to try and stay sane.
So I don't know if I believe all those "My friend downstairs is gonna kill himself." or "I think there's a man lurking in my BACKYARD WITH A KNIFE" THREADS. :o
Aw, poor Wilhelm.

E-hug:csad:
 
Christianity is a messed up religion in my book. 40% of the money they get from collections actually go to help people, and the money they use to help is spent on buying Bibles for people who live in Ethiopia or some developing country like that, to convert them, not to help. They're real *******s about the who Harry Potter books because it is against their religion, so they try to get it banned because it offends them. What kind of mind-**** is that?


Honestly I could lable some sects of the Christainity as terrorist organizations(evangelicals and born-agains), because people in those groups either bomb/ or support the bombing of abortion clinics.
 
Memphis Slim said:
Jesus said that he was the only way to heaven....not through Muhammad or Allah.


This thread should be closed!


Or did he say: "Ye, I am on a one way only trip to Heaven, sorry Muhammad we can't chill today."
 
Memphis Slim said:
That's just a bunch of double talk and you know it. You don't have an answer. If your eternal soul's destination hinges on what or who you put your faith in, it matters very much who is right!!

Is it Muhammad & Allah or is it Jesus? It can't be both because they contradict each other strongly. And the bible tells us what Jesus said and how He lived. The Koran does not.
Why are bashing Islam/Muslims? Did a terrorist kill someone you love?

More importantly I want you to ask yourself, WWJD? Would he attack Raybia's beliefs IN THIS MANNER? Jesus spoke with people and was able to show them what to believe by using his mannerism, his peculiarness, and his power. Are you doing/accomplishing any of this right now? He never beat up on people, and rarely raised his hands in anger. In fact he spoke adamantly against doing such things, or have you fogotten all that in your USAGE of him?
 
religions in general have always been used by people in order to form control and manipulate the minds of others, not really towards what the writings actually say but to the benefit of those in charge or who have an authority of control.

from the smallest cults in cut off religions of the world to suicide cults to the big ones to simple things like astrology

This isn't a fault of the text per say but a weakness in humans to wish to belong and to also get carried away with ideas and other people's views, enough so that they don't step back and think for themselves about.

as long as there is a hierachy within religion with one person telling another person how to feel or think, there will be people to exploit.

sad but unfortunately true.
 
Memphis Slim said:
That's just a bunch of double talk and you know it. You don't have an answer. If your eternal soul's destination hinges on what or who you put your faith in, it matters very much who is right!!

Hes got a point. Though peoples ideas and interpretations of God can vary from person to person, as far as an afterlife goes, somebody must be wrong and somebody must be right (or everyone wrong i guess if noones guessed correctly), theres not really a middle ground.
 
mightiest_mortal said:
Hes got a point. Though peoples ideas and interpretations of God can vary from person to person, as far as an afterlife goes, somebody must be wrong and somebody must be right (or everyone wrong i guess if noones guessed correctly), theres not really a middle ground.

But its kinda foolish to around screaming "The Muslims are wrong! The Jews are wrong! The Christians are wrong!". I'm an athiest, and I hate athiests that try to change peoples minds. Healthy discussion is fine, but people shouldn't shout over each other, as they often end up doing, on this subject.
 
mightiest_mortal said:
Hes got a point. Though peoples ideas and interpretations of God can vary from person to person, as far as an afterlife goes, somebody must be wrong and somebody must be right (or everyone wrong i guess if no ones guessed correctly), theres not really a middle ground.
Really. And why is that? JOHN 14:2. - In My Father's house are many mansions.
 
Angry Sentinel said:
Why are bashing Islam/Muslims? Did a terrorist kill someone you love?

Because he's celldog come back from the World Of The Banned, so rationale doesn't apply. I thought it was against Hype rules for banned users to come back and stir the pot? I've seen plenty of people get perma-banned for it, so why is this guy being given an exception?

jag
 
Memphis Slim said:
That's just a bunch of double talk and you know it.

Its not double talk because you declare it to be.

You can hold any opinion that you like about my comments but I don't subscribe to your contention that I'm consciously trying to tiptoe around the question because you are not able to comprehend my answer.


You don't have an answer.

I have the answer...for me. However, obviously I don't have the answer that will satisfy your mind and soul. Everyone has to search themselves for the answers to their questions.

If your eternal soul's destination hinges on what or who you put your faith in, it matters very much who is right!!

Well, we hold different concepts about the soul. The religion that I put my faith in will not necessarily dicate my soul's destination as much as living up to the principles of that particular faith.

IMO, Hell will be filled with people who CALL themselves Muslims, Christians, and Jews.

Also, I find it less important concerning my soul's destination than I do about where my soul currently resides.


Is it Muhammad & Allah or is it Jesus?

Both.


It can't be both because they contradict each other strongly.

The concept of Jesus that YOU hold contradicts Allah (G-d) and Muhammad but not mine.

And the bible tells us what Jesus said and how He lived. The Koran does not.

Now you are directly revealing your ignorance.

If you truly knew anything first hand about Islam then you wouldn't have made that statement. Maybe you should stay away from the Anti-Islamic websites for awhile and go to some of the credible sources about the religion.

Your persistence to question Islam about its legitimacy in spite of your obvious lack of knowledge and understand of not only it but also of Jesus and Christianity, prevents me for taking anything you post seriously.

It also reveals a deep prejudice that you hold towards Islam and Muslims...especially considering this article nor I made mention of Islam.

I mean this in all sincerity, you need help.
 

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